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Muris Varajic
post Sep 10 2008, 10:50 PM
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So,do we have any takes over the backing?? smile.gif


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post Sep 10 2008, 11:03 PM
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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Sep 10 2008, 10:50 PM) *
So,do we have any takes over the backing?? smile.gif

sorry, not by now sad.gif ... but it will come ... promised !!


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post Oct 31 2008, 11:30 PM
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Just found this thread and I am definitely going to give this cool bakingtrack a try smile.gif

I have started to play much more fusion lately and I just finished your fusion jam intermediate and I´m working on the advanced level right now smile.gif

thanks for the BT, Fusion Rocks! wink.gif
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post Nov 1 2008, 01:11 AM
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Great to hear Eric,I'm waiting for your take then!

Oh,and please post your takes on those lessons
as well when you get a chance,would love to see/hear it. smile.gif


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post Nov 1 2008, 11:30 AM
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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Nov 1 2008, 01:11 AM) *
Great to hear Eric,I'm waiting for your take then!

Oh,and please post your takes on those lessons
as well when you get a chance,would love to see/hear it. smile.gif



Of course I can post my takes on the fusion jam as well, would love to hear what you think of my playing smile.gif

I am still working on the advanced level and since I am not an advanced player that will take some more time for me to nail all those tricky chops wink.gif But I can post my take on the intermediate level later today maybe smile.gif

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post Nov 1 2008, 05:42 PM
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QUOTE (ErikEklund @ Nov 1 2008, 11:30 AM) *
Of course I can post my takes on the fusion jam as well, would love to hear what you think of my playing smile.gif

I am still working on the advanced level and since I am not an advanced player that will take some more time for me to nail all those tricky chops wink.gif But I can post my take on the intermediate level later today maybe smile.gif


Take your time,no need to rush at all,
and try to record video,tho audio only would work just fine. smile.gif


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post Nov 14 2008, 07:43 PM
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So here it is, my take on your fusion jam advanced smile.gif

Since I am not an advanced player, this was really hard for me and I know it is not perfect but I did my best biggrin.gif


Ps. the last lick was a little bit too hard for me so I played the lick from the intermediate fusion jam ^^
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post Nov 14 2008, 08:20 PM
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That was great!! smile.gif

I see you're struggling with some licks
but you gave it a shot and I appreciate that!
Keep working on it and eventually try to apply more vibrato,
specially on longer and bended notes,everything else was really good. smile.gif


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post Nov 14 2008, 08:29 PM
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Thanks Muris I´m very glad (and a bit honored) that you liked my take biggrin.gif

I agree 100% on what you said, and since this was very hard to me, it would probobly take a lot more time before I can play it really well and add some nice vibrato and that stuff. This lesson really helped me out with improving my tapping and timing, really useful stuff smile.gif

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QUOTE (ErikEklund @ Nov 14 2008, 08:29 PM) *
Thanks Muris I´m very glad (and a bit honored) that you liked my take biggrin.gif

I agree 100% on what you sad, and since this was very hard to me, it would probobly take a lot more time before I can play it really well and add some nice vibrato and that stuff. This lesson really helped me out with improving my tapping and timing, really useful stuff smile.gif


You did good job and you're very welcome,
keep us updated! smile.gif


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post Nov 17 2008, 06:32 PM
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Hello Muris!

I have a zillion questions regarding fusion/prog chord sequences. I hope you'll be patient with me as I still have alot of holes in my intermediate theory.

I have a general question on how to approach soloing over a Sus4 triad. I assume you would choose mixolydian mode and the pents and arps that are found in its corresponding major scale. I assume there are also restrictions due to how the sus is used? Say substitution for a dom chord or resolution to major chord, walking out to another key etc.

I have a more specific case say for instance, I love the intro to Sponge (Randy Brecker) F#sus/F, Fsus/F, Ebsus/F. But other than using the chord tones and bits of the mixolydian scale (F#, F and Eb) I don't seem to be getting anywhere with trying to construct convincing extended runs.

Do you have any suggestions as to how you would attack this particular vamp? Or insight into sus4 passages in general. Thanks so much. I'm learning a tonne from your lessons. Cheers.

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post Nov 18 2008, 12:12 AM
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Hi John.

Speaking of Brecker Brothers,their work has a lot more freedom
compared with what we traditionally call Fusion.
And progression you mentioned is just like that,
notes of those chords and the sound of them
actually begs for clusters,clash notes etc.
But if you wanna keep it as simple as possible,here are few suggestions.
F Locrian over F#sus4/F.
Now,we look at F Locrian as a 7th degree of Gb Ionian(major scale).
I wouldn't do it that way here at all,
I would rather think of F Phrygian with altered(flat) 5th
cause you can stay on F Phrygian for next 2 chords,Fsus4 and Ebsus4/F.
So all the only extra note that you need for F#sus4/F is note Cb(cool.gif.
And you can even try with regular F Phrygian with note Cb included,
which will take to chromatic line Bb,B,C and Db.
And of course you can always use Fm pentatonic,
there will be few clash notes but if you do it on purpose
and resolve wisely it'll be just fine.

Thanks for questions,I hope this helps. smile.gif


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post Nov 18 2008, 12:17 AM
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Small input:

Sus chords good for fusion? I have been wondering about good fusion chord choosings too. smile.gif
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QUOTE (kjutte @ Nov 18 2008, 12:17 AM) *
Small input:

Sus chords good for fusion? I have been wondering about good fusion chord choosings too. smile.gif


Absolutely,sus4 works very nice for all kinds of styles when used propertly,
specially for ala Jazz styles which is Fusion of course. smile.gif


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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Nov 18 2008, 12:25 AM) *
Absolutely,sus4 works very nice for all kinds of styles when used propertly,
specially for ala Jazz styles which is Fusion of course. smile.gif


What about a fairly advanced chord progression in fusion? Most of the fusion I heard is fairly Cm7 - Fmaj sounding, but this combination doesn't seem advanced at all.

So, again, what would you do?
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QUOTE (kjutte @ Nov 18 2008, 01:40 AM) *
What about a fairly advanced chord progression in fusion? Most of the fusion I heard is fairly Cm7 - Fmaj sounding, but this combination doesn't seem advanced at all.

So, again, what would you do?


Everything is allowed indeed,list would be too large
if I start typing all the things(chords) you could use. smile.gif

6th chords,7th chords,9th chords,augg chords,dim chords,slash chords etc...


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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Nov 18 2008, 01:50 AM) *
Everything is allowed indeed,list would be too large
if I start typing all the things(chords) you could use. smile.gif

6th chords,7th chords,9th chords,augg chords,dim chords,slash chords etc...


Thought jazz had modulation like that. Guess fusion is huge aswell smile.gif
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QUOTE (kjutte @ Nov 18 2008, 01:58 AM) *
Thought jazz had modulation like that. Guess fusion is huge aswell smile.gif


Fusion is almost the same as modern Jazz,do as you please,kind of. smile.gif


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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Nov 18 2008, 02:02 AM) *
Fusion is almost the same as modern Jazz,do as you please,kind of. smile.gif


Quick off topic question too if I may biggrin.gif
Is harmonization thoery knowedge important? personally I think it sounds like crap and I've had no real use of it yet smile.gif
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QUOTE (kjutte @ Nov 18 2008, 02:54 AM) *
Quick off topic question too if I may biggrin.gif
Is harmonization thoery knowedge important? personally I think it sounds like crap and I've had no real use of it yet smile.gif


Hmm,I not quite sure what harmonization theory is,you think of harmony in general?
Anyhow,every kind of knowledge is good,same goes for harmonization theory or what else,
perhaps you just haven't messed enough with more complex progressions etc. smile.gif


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