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Niko Fran
post Aug 6 2008, 12:09 AM
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Often when I read tabs, I find these Ls in the tabs. What are they!? What do they want from me!?

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post Aug 6 2008, 12:11 AM
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They are there to take over the world!!! tongue.gif

Good question though, I'm not very sure about it myself smile.gif
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post Aug 6 2008, 12:11 AM
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Legato slides, I believe smile.gif

You slide from one note to the other note, but you do not pick the second note.


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post Aug 6 2008, 12:13 AM
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It would be a tied note smile.gif

Here is the complete list :

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L - tied note
x - dead note
g - grace note
(n) - ghost note
> - accentuded note
NH - natural harmonic
AH - artificial harmonic
TH - tapped harmonic
SH - semi harmonic
PH - pitch harmonic
h - hammer on
p - pull off
b - bend
br - bendRelease
pb - preBend
pbr - preBendRelease
brb - bendReleaseBend
\n/ - tremolo bar dip
\n - tremolo bar dive
-/n - tremolo bar Release up
/n\ - tremolo bar inverted dip
/n - tremolo bar return
-\n - tremolo bar Release down
S - shift slide
s - legato slide
/ - slide into from below or out of upwards
\ - slide into from above or out of downwards
~ - vibrato
W - wide vibrato
tr - trill
TP - tremolo picking
T - tapping
S - slap
P - pop
< - fade in
^ - brush up
v - brush down


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I failed then! sad.gif


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post Aug 6 2008, 12:18 AM
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I found that list in Andrews teory lessons my self, but then I was like (whats a tied note?) As I remember they can be found in Dejans Raindrops lesson and in Gabriels reggeae lesson...

And whats a legato slide xD?
I'm not very familiar with all those terms sad.gif
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post Aug 6 2008, 12:18 AM
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QUOTE (Caelumamittendum @ Aug 6 2008, 01:17 AM) *
I failed then! sad.gif


Don't worry it was a good a logical shoot smile.gif


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post Aug 6 2008, 02:06 AM
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QUOTE (Niko Fran @ Aug 5 2008, 07:18 PM) *
I found that list in Andrews teory lessons my self, but then I was like (whats a tied note?) As I remember they can be found in Dejans Raindrops lesson and in Gabriels reggeae lesson...

And whats a legato slide xD?
I'm not very familiar with all those terms sad.gif



A tied note has to do with rhythmic value of the note. Typically music is broken down as such.

Whole note
Half note
Quarter note
8th note
16th note
32nd note
64th note

When you see a tied note it just means the note value is lengthend by another value. For example if you "Tie" a Half note to a quarter note that means the note length would have a value of 3 beats and it is not a separate note. So you would hit this note and it would ring for 3 beats. Generally speaking though tied notes are either usually really long or really short to get fractions of a beat. You typically wouldnt see a tied half note and quarter note in 4/4 time signature.

Normally in this circumstance you will have a dotted note. When you add a dot to a note the dot denotes half the value of the note that is dotted. So if you have a dotted half note, a half note has 2 counts and the dot adds 1 count to the beat because 1 is half of 2. So a dotted half note has 3 beats in 4/4 time signature.

A legato slide means that you slide up, or down but the location you do the slide from is a hammer on or pull off and not a picked note.

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post Aug 6 2008, 11:38 AM
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QUOTE (Daniel Robinson @ Aug 6 2008, 03:06 AM) *
A legato slide means that you slide up, or down but the location you do the slide from is a hammer on or pull off and not a picked note.

Hope i explained that well enough.

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Not sure the first note is a hammer on or pull off. Could be a picked note, but the location you slide to is not to be picked. Explained with video by someone here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5JRcPG9dj8&NR=1


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post Aug 6 2008, 12:03 PM
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QUOTE (Caelumamittendum @ Aug 6 2008, 12:38 PM) *
Not sure the first note is a hammer on or pull off. Could be a picked note, but the location you slide to is not to be picked. Explained with video by someone here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5JRcPG9dj8&NR=1


Yeah,so shift slide is probably when you pick
both notes but you slide in order in shift position of the left hand.
Those 2 slide types are always confusing me kind off,
not sure which name represents what. smile.gif


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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Aug 6 2008, 01:03 PM) *
Yeah,so shift slide is probably when you pick
both notes but you slide in order in shift position of the left hand.
Those 2 slide types are always confusing me kind off,
not sure which name represents what. smile.gif


Yes, I believe shift slide is the slide between two positions on the neck, but playing both notes.

I think I learned the many terms and ways to play by fooling around with Guitar Pro. Then you can kinda hear what it is supposed to be (i.e. legato slide from 17th fret to 15th fret) and try and emulate that laugh.gif


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QUOTE (Caelumamittendum @ Aug 6 2008, 01:08 PM) *
Yes, I believe shift slide is the slide between two positions on the neck, but playing both notes.

I think I learned the many terms and ways to play by fooling around with Guitar Pro. Then you can kinda hear what it is supposed to be (i.e. legato slide from 17th fret to 15th fret) and try and emulate that laugh.gif


Oh yeah,I listened through GP a lot as well
but somehow it sounds wrong here and there,
per example legato sounds like played with hammer, a real hammer. laugh.gif


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post Aug 6 2008, 12:12 PM
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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Aug 6 2008, 01:11 PM) *
Oh yeah,I listened through GP a lot as well
but somehow it sounds wrong here and there,
per example legato sounds like played with hammer, a real hammer. laugh.gif


Ahaha. I have never played my guitar with a hammer! laugh.gif You have?!

But yes, you are right, some things are severely off, but I at least managed to get the impression that it was only the first note being played and the second coming from the slide to the note.


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QUOTE (Caelumamittendum @ Aug 6 2008, 01:12 PM) *
Ahaha. I have never played my guitar with a hammer! laugh.gif You have?!


No I haven't but it might sound just like that,give it a try laugh.gif


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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Aug 6 2008, 01:14 PM) *
No I haven't but it might sound just like that,give it a try laugh.gif


So you want me to use the hammer as the pick or as a fretting tool? laugh.gif


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QUOTE (Caelumamittendum @ Aug 6 2008, 01:16 PM) *
So you want me to use the hammer as the pick or as a fretting tool? laugh.gif


Fretting tool,it's legato after all biggrin.gif


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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Aug 6 2008, 01:20 PM) *
Fretting tool,it's legato after all biggrin.gif


Sure, I'll look into it! rolleyes.gif


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QUOTE (Caelumamittendum @ Aug 6 2008, 06:38 AM) *
Not sure the first note is a hammer on or pull off. Could be a picked note, but the location you slide to is not to be picked. Explained with video by someone here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5JRcPG9dj8&NR=1



Quite right, thanks for the correction. The problem i think stems from the fact that most TAB writers don't notate this properly, and hence the confusion. Almost all the time they notate both Legato slide and Shift slide with the same shift slide notation.

Thanks for the clarification though!

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I think it would be wise to use GP legend and have it by default in complete tabs. After all we are using Guitar Pro software - why not using it's legend as well ?


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QUOTE (Daniel Robinson @ Aug 6 2008, 08:00 PM) *
Quite right, thanks for the correction. The problem i think stems from the fact that most TAB writers don't notate this properly, and hence the confusion. Almost all the time they notate both Legato slide and Shift slide with the same shift slide notation.

Thanks for the clarification though!

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No problem. Feels good to be able to correct an instructor! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Aug 6 2008, 08:58 PM) *
I think it would be wise to use GP legend and have it by default in complete tabs. After all we are using Guitar Pro software - why not using it's legend as well ?


Indeed, that would be wise!


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