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post Aug 16 2008, 05:35 PM
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all we need to figure out is which metal goes where


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post Aug 16 2008, 07:34 PM
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Jeroens approach makes sense to me smile.gif


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post Aug 17 2008, 01:06 AM
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Glad you guys like the idea. smile.gif


You might want to divide the scalar lessons as well, As I notice as an complete guitar noob that knows nothing of scales they get thrown in my face all the time while I didn't have the chance yet to study most of them (read, get the boxes inside my head and keep them there until they get into the fingers). so making several catagories with scales would work very well as well.

One of the greatetest things about GMC is that lessons can be put into several catagories. So if we would stick to the BG example you will notice that they have some very complex songs aswell. In that case you can put the song in both the epic catagory as well in the prog catagory. So I don't see any problem in that regard.

I do believe however that there might be problems into putting lessons in the catagories. If we would take Metallica for example; which catagory would they fit, Metallica is a classic metal band beyond any doubt, but they are still modern. Add to that the fact that if they didn't take ages to finish an album they would invent their sound more times than Madonna would change image.

Another difficulty could be the grey area lessons. If they would, for example, fall between rock and metal. Lesson labeling currently put it in both rock and metal. But with this new proposal the isntructor him/herself could get very confused. And believe me kids, an confused instructor, although a sight to behold, is not ideal.


This proposal I've made is just a rough sketch, and should be fleshed out more. I will be more than happy, however, to help put lessons in their corresponding catagories.

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post Aug 17 2008, 04:48 AM
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I do think that Jeroen's idea is the most logical.



This way we arent bogged down with too many sub-genre's. The question is how from an instructor point of view can we break these down. I mean we have the tagging system now, so it would be up to an instructor to put it into a category?



What i call Power metal someone else might call Epic....Its this distinction we need to clarify.



Perfect example would be a group like Within Temptation...i say they are Goth...my friend calls it Power metal. So who is right.



I guess we can try a premlim sub-genre layout and tweak it as we go would probably be the most logical.



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post Aug 17 2008, 11:29 AM
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You are right, they are goth wink.gif


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post Aug 17 2008, 11:50 AM
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I Totally agree with JeroenKole.

That's the best way to divide it up, to the point and straight forward.
I like metal and i don't even know all the sub genre's it does get confusing!


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post Aug 17 2008, 01:34 PM
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QUOTE (skennington @ Aug 15 2008, 09:05 PM) *
How bout catagorizing them by level of dificulty. beginner 1-3, intermediate 4-7,and advanced 8-10. Metal is very hard to determine unless you go from one extreme to another. ( 80's hair metal to todays deth metal ), alot of styles in between will get sort of lost in the mix.

similar to the lesson plan I know, but would give you a way of grouping the lessons. smile.gif


That sounds really good to me!, I like learning things that 1) I can play, 2) Sound good.
The sub genre of metal they belong doesn't really matter to me, as have been stated, the borders of metal are unclear. Confused and led to the dark side we might be.

Having said that, Jeroenkole's approach sounds sensible too, better have just a few well diferenciated subgenres than too many which we don't really know what they are!


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post Aug 17 2008, 08:31 PM
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QUOTE (Daniel Robinson @ Aug 17 2008, 05:48 AM) *
Perfect example would be a group like Within Temptation...i say they are Goth...my friend calls it Power metal. So who is right.


QUOTE (Marcus Siepen @ Aug 17 2008, 12:29 PM) *
You are right, they are goth wink.gif



Actually they are symphonic rock/metal. But they call themselves Gothic Rock. I hate subgenre's and I prefer the approach of like and don't like. But if I have to put them in any catagory I would put them in the epic block.
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post Aug 18 2008, 12:59 PM
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Thanks again for the advice here - we need the techs to adjust the video lesson page slightly before we can add sub-categories. Then we will get a better structure thanks to your advice (next we will proceed to the other categories).

Good thing is - that once we have got the sub-categories, you will be able to slice them up into difficulty level by using the advanced search.

You can already do this today to the metal category - just be sure to not have the text field empty when you click advanced search.


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post Aug 29 2008, 08:56 PM
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Ok! Thanks to your help (and especially JeroenKole!) - we have now got metal sub-genres!

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/video-lessons.htm

We will continue the restructuring of the video lessons page in the near future to make easier to browse and [hopefully] more logic..!

Thanks again for helping us improve GMC! smile.gif


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QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Aug 29 2008, 04:56 PM) *
Ok! Thanks to your help (and especially JeroenKole!) - we have now got metal sub-genres!

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/video-lessons.htm

We will continue the restructuring of the video lessons page in the near future to make easier to browse and [hopefully] more logic..!

Thanks again for helping us improve GMC! smile.gif



Good joob! It looks great and clearer now. smile.gif


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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Aug 29 2008, 10:08 PM) *
Good joob! It looks great and clearer now. smile.gif


Thanks Gabriel - your lessons are all over that section! biggrin.gif I had a blast watching them all again!


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post Aug 29 2008, 09:11 PM
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QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Aug 29 2008, 09:56 PM) *
Ok! Thanks to your help (and especially JeroenKole!) - we have now got metal sub-genres!

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/video-lessons.htm

We will continue the restructuring of the video lessons page in the near future to make easier to browse and [hopefully] more logic..!

Thanks again for helping us improve GMC! smile.gif


yeah !!! that's great wink.gif


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Excellent - well done Kris!


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Simple & effective! Good job smile.gif


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Awesome ^^
No more searching forever to find what I'm looking for biggrin.gif
Not that it was bad before either, though ^^


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post Aug 30 2008, 09:47 PM
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well done mates, now it´s easier! biggrin.gif


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QUOTE (Lian Gerbino @ Aug 30 2008, 10:47 PM) *
well done mates, now it´s easier! biggrin.gif

Hehe, I noticed that when I go into Epic and Extreme Metal, over half of the lessons there are of Lian tongue.gif


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