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post Aug 19 2008, 05:22 PM
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Yo dudettes and dudes,

Is vibrato supposed to be a 1 way only bend i.e. are u just supposed to go from normal, then bend up a bit (say), then back to normal, then bend up again, rather than normal, up, normal, down, normal up.....? If u get what I mean?

Should vibrato be really a wrist only action?

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post Aug 19 2008, 05:26 PM
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Well, bending the string up and down still only makes the pitch go up. So I would recommend only going in one direction, back to normal, the same direction (and obviously to exactly the same pitch as before) and repeate the process.

However, you can also do a sideway vibrato, usexd a lot in classical guitar, and that's just wiggling the finger to the sides, and there you go both up and down in pitch. That's a bit more subtle, and more musical imo since it goes in the both directions, but it doesn't really fit for rockish sounding solos.


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post Aug 19 2008, 05:58 PM
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When I teach vibrato I have a sort of chart that goes like: Wide- Narrow -Fast -Slow
You can combine those like: Wide and slow, Wide and fast, Narrow and slow, Narrow and fast.
Then you can try to move into the combinations like: Start wide and slow and go to narrow and slow, start wide and fast and go to narrow and slow, start wide and slow go to narrow and slow, start wide and fast go to narrow and fast. You can do the same thing but starting narrow. You get the idea.
The only way to to that kind of job is to go up and down.
You can also go only up or only down, but to make this kind of transitions you have to go both ways.
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post Aug 19 2008, 06:20 PM
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Vibrato is just like a bend, only here there are more bend-like consecutive motions. If you go up, then return to normal, and then again up. I don't think going down form normal after going up is a good way to go, the bend will not sound coherent enough.


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post Aug 19 2008, 06:57 PM
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I also prefer to go up only, but as long as you are happy with your vibrato I don't see a problem if you also go down.


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post Aug 21 2008, 12:59 AM
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it's there aslo some recomedations how to use other fingers when i'm doing vibrato or bend??

usualy everybody say use mutch fingers as possible..thats i'm understand but how the helping finger have to lie on fretboard closely ass possible or every finger on each fret..i'm see quitarist do both way..so it's there some advantage or disadvantage for each techique??


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post Aug 21 2008, 01:00 AM
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It is good to keep the fingers that are not bending behind the finger that is doing the bend in order to support it, specially when doing bends that go up.


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post Aug 21 2008, 01:02 AM
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I just realized that most of the time I do it by
bending string up and down,and up,and down etc! laugh.gif

Tho there are situations when bending down is your only option,
as for low E string per example. smile.gif


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QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Aug 20 2008, 07:00 PM) *
It is good to keep the fingers that are not bending behind the finger that is doing the bend in order to support it, specially when doing bends that go up.



thanks ..so closely ass possible..thats the way what i'm like it wink.gif


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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Aug 20 2008, 08:02 PM) *
I just realized that most of the time I do it by
bending string up and down,and up,and down etc! laugh.gif

Tho there are situations when bending down is your only option,
as for low E string per example. smile.gif



I agree with this. My normal vibrato before GMC was just the traditional bend up, then down then up etc....

But after thinking about it and watching people play other styles of music that I didn't (but sounded cool) I learned it's more about what note and string you’re on when you want to add vibrato. Like Mirus said, if you’re on the E, A or D string it may be easier to reach and create the proper pitch if you bend down. I also think the tone of the bend sounds different. It’s maybe kind of darker or mysterious, for the lack of a better term.

For example: Neoclassical

Marcus does both. This seems to depend on what string and note he is on. The opening lick to Nocturnal Vision is a perfect example.

I like using both ways.




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post Aug 21 2008, 06:31 AM
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Thanks for all the responses guys biggrin.gif

So, like most things with guitar, it looks like there are lots of different ways to do it. So since bending down only is the easiest for me I think I will continue to do that on every string except high e. Maybe 1 day I will get round to learning some other techniques.

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post Aug 21 2008, 07:24 AM
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QUOTE (buttmonk @ Aug 21 2008, 07:31 AM) *
Thanks for all the responses guys biggrin.gif

So, like most things with guitar, it looks like there are lots of different ways to do it. So since bending down only is the easiest for me I think I will continue to do that on every string except high e. Maybe 1 day I will get round to learning some other techniques.

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Absolutely,go for it if it feels comfortable for you,
one day you'll apply other methods and you'll get whole package. smile.gif


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post Aug 21 2008, 09:27 AM
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Vibrato is just one of those things that has a unique structure that differs from player to player. Of course we can give opinions and options that we use. But i suggest that you find your own vibrato style.

Teaching correct technique on vibrato is almost impossible because there is no wrong answer. Everyone i know of has different vibrato than i do and vice versa.

I guess you have to fall back on Marcus L's idea about music in general. "If it sounds good, it is good"


So if it sounds good to you and you don't find any fault with it than use it. Of course as you develop as a player you will find other technique's more your liking in different songs and styles.

For example when i play neo-classical i prefer the up, down method...whereas when i play the blues i try to use more wrist action...it has a different feel to it.

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post Aug 22 2008, 02:43 AM
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QUOTE (Daniel Robinson @ Aug 21 2008, 03:27 AM) *
Teaching correct technique on vibrato is almost impossible because there is no wrong answer. Everyone i know of has different vibrato than i do and vice versa.


Daniel



You 100% right.....Who interest about this can just read those answer from instructors cool.gif
so don't copy anybody and find your best way when you gonna feell good on that guys smile.gif

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QUOTE (Ramiro Delforte @ Aug 19 2008, 05:58 PM) *
When I teach vibrato I have a sort of chart that goes like: Wide- Narrow -Fast -Slow
You can combine those like: Wide and slow, Wide and fast, Narrow and slow, Narrow and fast.
Then you can try to move into the combinations like: Start wide and slow and go to narrow and slow, start wide and fast and go to narrow and slow, start wide and slow go to narrow and slow, start wide and fast go to narrow and fast. You can do the same thing but starting narrow. You get the idea.
The only way to to that kind of job is to go up and down.
You can also go only up or only down, but to make this kind of transitions you have to go both ways.
I hope it was usefull.
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Hey ramiro,

Could you make a lesson and show how u teach vibrato?
the wide and also etc etc thing.


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post Aug 22 2008, 11:47 AM
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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Aug 21 2008, 02:02 AM) *
I just realized that most of the time I do it by
bending string up and down,and up,and down etc! laugh.gif

Tho there are situations when bending down is your only option,
as for low E string per example. smile.gif


laugh.gif I do it the same, it's all in the wrist in my opinion


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