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Elonine
post Aug 24 2008, 05:56 PM
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Hey there, This is my first post on this forum, if that means anything to anybody.

I'd like some advice as far as upgrading my gear, if you wouldn't mind. Last year for Christmas, I got my first guitar. It is a Sqiuer Strat that came bundled with a G-dec jr. amp. A Great starter setup, from what I can tell. Anyway, I'm starting to look at other things now. My friend, who has been teaching me to play along with this site, has suggested that I look into upgrading now. He isn't the type of guy who just gets the best stuff because it's available, so I trust his judgment.

Anyway, I pretty much found the guitar I want:

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product...itar?sku=511141


Though budget may not (read: most likely will not) allow it. From what my friend tells me, it's basically a Fender rendition of a Les Paul with a Strat neck on it. I like how it feels and sounds.

As for the amp, my friend has been in the market for one as well. He has a peavey Delta Blues amp at the moment, and, while it serves his purpose just fine, and was free, it's not really what he's looking for. He preaches against solid state amps as if they are developed by Satan himself, so he's looking strictly at tube amps. He has been keeping an eye open for something useful for me, and showed me this last week:

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product...-Amp?sku=481443


Now, for the same reason as the guitar, it isn't too likely that I'll be getting it right away.

I'll be 18 soon, and my parents told me that they want me to get a credit card, put something on it, and pay it off before they charge interest, in order to build credit. (I never thought I'd see the day when my parents told me to get a credit card). Anyway, Guitar Center (the only music store withing an hour of me that I know of) almost always has a 12 month no interest deal going on. This means that I will prolly be able to get either a guitar OR the amp. (If anyone cares, I DO work and will be paying for this myself)

My main question is: the guitar or the amp.

Also, feel free to show me something better and/or cheaper if you feel so inclined, the more input the better, I'll be working with the next set of gear for quite a while, I predict, so I don't want to get stuck with junk.
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post Aug 24 2008, 06:16 PM
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Blimey tough desician you have there,guitar or the amp!

IMO I would settle wth a decent guitar 1st,and get a cheap practise amp till you have enough money to get something better.

For the money a standard american strat is a worthwhile investment in your musical future,To start with they play bad,and feel bad but as they get older they settle down into beutifull tone machines that can handle any music style thrown at it.
Just by upgrading the stock single pick up near the bridge to a JB jnr,gives you the full humbucker sound and less hum and feedback when cranked near an amp!

amp wise,there is nothing wrong with solid state amps.Line 6 flexytone amps have got very usable and indeed warm tones as do their flagship Vetta 2 heads.If you were to play solid state only you would not notice the difference.Its only when you put the best solid state against good tube amps that they get shown up for that lack of tube majic and note defination.

But played on their own they can sound fantastic!

I see you listed a Tele as a potential axe,just checked that link out and it looks cool.there great workhorses.

what style of music are you into?As that might help pinning down a few amp modes that sound cool


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post Aug 24 2008, 06:23 PM
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QUOTE (Noangels @ Aug 24 2008, 10:16 AM) *
Blimey tough desician you have there,guitar or the amp!

IMO I would settle wth a decent guitar 1st,and get a cheap practise amp till you have enough money to get something better.

For the money a standard american strat is a worthwhile investment in your musical future,To start with they play bad,and feel bad but as they get older they settle down into beutifull tone machines that can handle any music style thrown at it.
Just by upgrading the stock single pick up near the bridge to a JB jnr,gives you the full humbucker sound and less hum and feedback when cranked near an amp!

amp wise,there is nothing wrong with solid state amps.Line 6 flexytone amps have got very usable and indeed warm tones as do their flagship Vetta 2 heads.If you were to play solid state only you would not notice the difference.Its only when you put the best solid state against good tube amps that they get shown up for that lack of tube majic and note defination.

But played on their own they can sound fantastic!

I see you listed a Tele as a potential axe,just checked that link out and it looks cool.there great workhorses.

what style of music are you into?As that might help pinning down a few amp modes that sound cool



Well, I'm into pretty much any music with decent guitar in it, but it metal, classic rock, alternative, etc. My favorite band is Rush, with the metal band All That Remains 2nd. As far as my aspirations as a guitarist, I like the rhythm style of Alex Lifeson from Rush, and the soloing style of Pete Townsend from the Who. I like listening to metal, but I'm not very interested in playing it.
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post Aug 24 2008, 06:27 PM
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what type of music do you play?

I would buy this guitar...

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product...itar?sku=518451

and a pod x3 so you can get any tone you want

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product...ssor?sku=150374

and get a cheap practice amp played through clean til you save up more money for a better amp


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post Aug 24 2008, 06:42 PM
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On the subject of credit, your parents are right in wanting you to build it up, but you'll get a much higher credit score if you maintain a small balance, say $100 or so, and make regular payments. This gives a higher score than paying the balance in full each month. The interest charge will be minimal. Just don't let it build up on you... keep the balance low!


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post Aug 24 2008, 06:43 PM
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For my self, I'd be happy to play the crappiest guitar as long as I had a good amp. So I'd say amp first.


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post Aug 24 2008, 08:25 PM
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Guitar or Amp ??

With no doubt - GUITAR !!

You need a good instrument in your hands to play on...Amp and other stuff comes secondary!

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post Aug 24 2008, 08:48 PM
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I'd also say guitar first!
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post Aug 24 2008, 08:49 PM
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Guitar is the most important thing when you are a guitar player, so buy a guitar. You're still learning to play it and don't need big amp yet. Quality instrument is what matters.

When you buy it, then sell that squier and old amp and buy a new amp if you want, that is all up to you.


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post Aug 24 2008, 09:08 PM
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I usually don't like the looks of a tele but this is a nice guitar if you want a nice amp that could keep you going for a while untill you need some powerfull things a Roland Cube might be interesting to look at. I like the clean channel very muchl it has lots of effects in it and the distortion channels are nice but i bought a good distortion pedal to use with the cube. It is not what i would call expensive i payed 250 bucks for mine

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post Aug 24 2008, 09:10 PM
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QUOTE (MickeM @ Aug 24 2008, 07:43 PM) *
For my self, I'd be happy to play the crappiest guitar as long as I had a good amp. So I'd say amp first.

Yes, but that's because you're a seasoned player. smile.gif


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post Aug 24 2008, 09:13 PM
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thanks guys, I appreciate the input.
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post Aug 24 2008, 09:16 PM
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QUOTE (jacmoe @ Aug 24 2008, 10:10 PM) *
Yes, but that's because you're a seasoned player. smile.gif

True, you got a point!


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post Aug 24 2008, 11:21 PM
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Definitely guitar first. Despite yourself, the guitar is the most important thing in guitar playing. So go guitar first.
Good amp is important for gigs, but you will not be fully useful in day by day practice (and a good guitar is to be used in any occasion)

However, take your time to make the decision of which guitar to buy. The more you play guitar, the more exigent you become about the instrument. So, think a lot about the guitar you are going to buy and how long it will serve you.

Try first deciding what kind of sound you want (single coil, humbucker, a mix?) and then go to a guitar shop and spend a lot of time there testing the guitars by yourself. Try different brands. At least fender, Gibson and Ibanez to have a rough idea of what´s there.

At last but not least, liking a guitar is something very personal. Even if your friend is more seasoned, try to buy things based on your own opinion.

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If you only want to play home i suggest get a new guitar and maybe a Pod or Toneport to play and record your stuff. It is alot better then getting a cheap amp


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post Aug 25 2008, 01:58 PM
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I'm with superize - toneport or POD is perhaps a better buy for you after the guitar.


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