Reply to this topicStart new topic
> Vox Jamvox, This Looks Interesting
skennington
post Sep 5 2008, 04:12 PM
Post #1


Learning Roadie - Never Give Up - Moderator
Group Icon

Group: GMC Senior
Posts: 7.461
Joined: 25-November 07
From: Charlotte,NC USA
Member No.: 3.374



Thought you guys may want to check this out. It's Vox's new Interface that allows you to remove guitar parts from any mp3. Also works as a modeler with alot of config's.

Check out the Youtube video to the right of the page. (Jamvox Video Demo)

I'm sure some of you know about this piece of equipment, but for those that don't, should be a treat! smile.gif

http://www.voxamps.co.uk/jamvox/



--------------------
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Danilo Capezzuto
post Sep 5 2008, 04:21 PM
Post #2


Instructor
*

Group: Members
Posts: 1.829
Joined: 16-February 08
From: Italy
Member No.: 4.263



Oh..nice news! I think this is a great piece of gear, don't know how much cost in Italy but sure it would be an useful and smart toy! Thank you for the link.


--------------------
Check out my video lessons!
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Emir Hot
post Sep 5 2008, 04:34 PM
Post #3


Instructor
Group Icon

Group: GMC Instructor
Posts: 7.201
Joined: 14-July 08
From: London UK
Member No.: 5.490



I am going to try this. Thanks for sharing


--------------------
Check out my <a href="https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/instructor/Emir-Hot" target="_blank">Instructor profile</a>

www.emirhot.com
www.myspace.com/emirhotguitar
www.myspace.com/sevdahmetal
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
skennington
post Sep 5 2008, 04:45 PM
Post #4


Learning Roadie - Never Give Up - Moderator
Group Icon

Group: GMC Senior
Posts: 7.461
Joined: 25-November 07
From: Charlotte,NC USA
Member No.: 3.374



Your welcome guys. smile.gif Looks like US retailers are having a hard time keeping them in stock. And only $250 blink.gif Looks like it would be well worth it!

http://www.zzounds.com/item--VOXJAMVOX

This post has been edited by skennington: Sep 5 2008, 04:47 PM


--------------------
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Ivan Milenkovic
post Sep 5 2008, 08:54 PM
Post #5


Instructor
Group Icon

Group: GMC Instructor
Posts: 25.396
Joined: 20-November 07
From: Belgrade, Serbia
Member No.: 3.341



It removes the guitar parts from any mp3? I'd really like to see that one working.


--------------------
- Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE
- Check out my GMC Profile and Lessons
- (Please subscribe to my) YouTube Official Channel
- Let's be connected through ! Facebook! :)
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
skennington
post Sep 5 2008, 09:11 PM
Post #6


Learning Roadie - Never Give Up - Moderator
Group Icon

Group: GMC Senior
Posts: 7.461
Joined: 25-November 07
From: Charlotte,NC USA
Member No.: 3.374



QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Sep 5 2008, 03:54 PM) *
It removes the guitar parts from any mp3? I'd really like to see that one working.


That's what they are marketing the product around Ivan. Check out the youtube video demo as they provide an example. Look's cool!


--------------------
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Bogdan Radovic
post Sep 5 2008, 09:58 PM
Post #7


Bass & Beginner Instructor
Group Icon

Group: GMC Instructor
Posts: 15.612
Joined: 30-November 07
From: Belgrade, Serbia
Member No.: 3.410



Looks like a promising piece of equipment!! smile.gif Seems like a good rival to toneports , but I don't actually think this guitar extraction thing will work that good..He only shows one example and its not even perfect there, and it seems like an easy song to work with..I think you'll get terrible results trying to extract guitars from Metallica or RHCP records for example or any more sophisticated songs/production...


--------------------
For GMC support please email support (at) guitarmasterclass.net
Check out my lessons and my instructor board.
Check out my beginner guitar lessons course! ; Take a bass course now!
My solo and band songs : Keep Going On, Night Vibe, Kad Te Vidim, Susret, Plava Silueta
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
audiopaal
post Sep 5 2008, 11:55 PM
Post #8


Competitions Coordinator - Up the Irons
Group Icon

Group: GMC Senior
Posts: 5.447
Joined: 17-February 08
From: Stavanger, Norway
Member No.: 4.276



I've had my eyes on that one, I'll check it out when it hits the stores here in Norway smile.gif
Thanks for sharing! wink.gif
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Toroso
post Sep 6 2008, 12:58 AM
Post #9


GMC:er
*

Group: Members
Posts: 653
Joined: 26-August 08
From: Kingston, TN USA
Member No.: 5.779



QUOTE (Bogdan Radovic @ Sep 5 2008, 04:58 PM) *
Looks like a promising piece of equipment!! smile.gif Seems like a good rival to toneports , but I don't actually think this guitar extraction thing will work that good..He only shows one example and its not even perfect there, and it seems like an easy song to work with..I think you'll get terrible results trying to extract guitars from Metallica or RHCP records for example or any more sophisticated songs/production...


Yeah, it actually did a better job extracting the guitar, removing the backing. At least from what I heard and saw. But your right, in a more involved piece, how would it do???


--------------------
Live well, and live often!
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Gus
post Sep 6 2008, 10:55 AM
Post #10


GMC:er
Group Icon

Group: Student Instructor
Posts: 999
Joined: 21-January 08
From: Brazil/Denmark
Member No.: 3.920



QUOTE (Bogdan Radovic @ Sep 5 2008, 10:58 PM) *
Looks like a promising piece of equipment!! smile.gif Seems like a good rival to toneports , but I don't actually think this guitar extraction thing will work that good..He only shows one example and its not even perfect there, and it seems like an easy song to work with..I think you'll get terrible results trying to extract guitars from Metallica or RHCP records for example or any more sophisticated songs/production...

With signal processing that can be done in principle, if the signals do not have a high degree of correlation (there is research on this area, though I don't know how advanced it actually is)
From the demonstration it seems that it uses the frequency you select as the base to remove a track.
So I guess that it could work on RHCP regardless of complexity, but on Metallica I think it would remove both guitars...

Well, a real demonstration would be to separate each track on November rain solo or every voice in Bohemian Rhapsody tongue.gif

This post has been edited by Gus: Sep 6 2008, 10:58 AM


--------------------
my "Thank you GMC!" video

If you like it please vote in the competition ;-)

Gus Stairway to Guitar Heaven - my practice agenda

Check out my lesson here Phrygian Dominant Solo lesson


Gear : Ibanez RGT320q (I just love the neck-thru sustain), Washburn EA-20SDL (acoustic 6 string), Standard strat (Mexico), POD X3 Live

Some of my Guitar heroes: Jimmy Page, Slash, Kirk Hammett, Augusto Licks, Joe Satriani, Gus G, David Gilmour, Mark Knopfler...
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Canis
post Sep 6 2008, 11:09 AM
Post #11


Learning Rock Star
Group Icon

Group: GMC Wiki:er
Posts: 3.319
Joined: 22-October 07
From: Molde, Norway
Member No.: 3.108



If someone here buys it, could that person challenge the box for it's full potential?

Seems like a nice concept, but if it works 100% on a Metallica or Amorphis track, I'll eat my socks tongue.gif


--------------------
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Emir Hot
post Sep 6 2008, 11:43 AM
Post #12


Instructor
Group Icon

Group: GMC Instructor
Posts: 7.201
Joined: 14-July 08
From: London UK
Member No.: 5.490



It has to do a lot with the track quality. If the track is not mixed properly then you might even get some vocal in your extracted guitar part. I have plugin "vocal remover" and that works very similar. It inverts phases and EQs that frequency range in the mix so the vocal is removed. You can still hear it very quiet somewhere in the distance (like in a very long reverb). The same works with guitar if it's mixed that way. If the solo doesn't interfere with any other frequency and it's louder than than the other instruments then it's not a problem to remove it even with a simple EQ. That cannot be said for a rhythm guitar. If you remove that you would also remove much of the drums and bass.


--------------------
Check out my <a href="https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/instructor/Emir-Hot" target="_blank">Instructor profile</a>

www.emirhot.com
www.myspace.com/emirhotguitar
www.myspace.com/sevdahmetal
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
kaznie_NL
post Sep 6 2008, 01:42 PM
Post #13


Experienced Tone Seeker
*

Group: Passive
Posts: 4.809
Joined: 8-December 07
From: Hedel, Netherlands
Member No.: 3.471



It looks cool for sure...


--------------------
My YouTube Channel Here

My Rec Takes Here


--- GEAR ---
Ibanez SA08LTD2 BAR
Vox AD50VT
Pod Farm
Line 6 Pod Studio GX
El Cheapo Strat
Dunlop Slide
Korg Toneworks AX5G
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Bogdan Radovic
post Sep 6 2008, 02:52 PM
Post #14


Bass & Beginner Instructor
Group Icon

Group: GMC Instructor
Posts: 15.612
Joined: 30-November 07
From: Belgrade, Serbia
Member No.: 3.410



QUOTE (Gus @ Sep 6 2008, 11:55 AM) *
With signal processing that can be done in principle, if the signals do not have a high degree of correlation (there is research on this area, though I don't know how advanced it actually is)
From the demonstration it seems that it uses the frequency you select as the base to remove a track.
So I guess that it could work on RHCP regardless of complexity, but on Metallica I think it would remove both guitars...

Well, a real demonstration would be to separate each track on November rain solo or every voice in Bohemian Rhapsody tongue.gif


Well I don't know how it will work on multitrack recordings of any band which features lots of similar guitar tracks (inluding RHCP)..Also this example in the video seems very fishy to me..I think he showed in the stereo picture of the track having guitar hard right...And than isolated it by moving the stereo picture (simple panning).Track is a very basic one, blues style, having drums and bass and very loud guitar (apparently panned right only)..I mean I am not convinced at all in that video...Well see when someone gets this device, i think its a cheap marketing trick(regarding isolating guitars) other than that it may be a cool device to tackle toneports and similar stuff.

This post has been edited by Bogdan Radovic: Sep 6 2008, 02:54 PM


--------------------
For GMC support please email support (at) guitarmasterclass.net
Check out my lessons and my instructor board.
Check out my beginner guitar lessons course! ; Take a bass course now!
My solo and band songs : Keep Going On, Night Vibe, Kad Te Vidim, Susret, Plava Silueta
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Ivan Milenkovic
post Sep 6 2008, 03:39 PM
Post #15


Instructor
Group Icon

Group: GMC Instructor
Posts: 25.396
Joined: 20-November 07
From: Belgrade, Serbia
Member No.: 3.341



guitar sound is scattered all over the spectrum so it is pretty hard to isolate the sound. It is possible, but results will not be that great. As Emir said, with a properly mixed track it is somewhat easier, but nevertheless, it will isolate other sounds as well.


--------------------
- Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE
- Check out my GMC Profile and Lessons
- (Please subscribe to my) YouTube Official Channel
- Let's be connected through ! Facebook! :)
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
skennington
post Sep 6 2008, 04:13 PM
Post #16


Learning Roadie - Never Give Up - Moderator
Group Icon

Group: GMC Senior
Posts: 7.461
Joined: 25-November 07
From: Charlotte,NC USA
Member No.: 3.374



Idk, it does seem a bit hard to accomplish, but a company as successful as Vox shouldn't have to use a "shaky" marketing strategy to sell there product. Can't wait for some actual user reviews. Time will tell I guess. smile.gif

Somebody buy one! Paal? tongue.gif



--------------------
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post

Reply to this topicStart new topic
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 


RSS Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 16th December 2017 - 09:40 PM