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blindwillie
post Sep 8 2008, 07:35 AM
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Anyone have any experince of the Ibanez RG1820X? http://www.ibanez.co.jp/products/eg_page20...mp;series_id=51

I'd like to hear comments from anyone who have tried or heard anything good or bad about.
Or just your general thoughts about it and its piezo pickup conf.


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post Sep 8 2008, 07:40 AM
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The guitar looks great! From what I've read, in gerenal terms, a lot of people get rid of the V7 and V8 pickups right away. Or was it just one of them? Anyway, doean't have to be bad pickups just because of that, just picky users maybe.


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post Sep 8 2008, 07:58 AM
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QUOTE (MickeM @ Sep 8 2008, 08:40 AM) *
The guitar looks great! From what I've read, in gerenal terms, a lot of people get rid of the V7 and V8 pickups right away. Or was it just one of them? Anyway, doean't have to be bad pickups just because of that, just picky users maybe.

Yeah, that's the impression I got too. That's about all I could find about it though.
Is it still a good choice for rock? Hard rock? Metal? Or does the piezo make it less suited for these genres?
Compared to the RG2550Z? http://www.ibanez.co.jp/products/eg_page20...mp;series_id=51


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post Sep 8 2008, 08:24 AM
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I got rid of my v7/v8 right away, replaced them by Dimarzios (PAF Pro on the neck and Fred on the bridge, haven't tried the DiMarzio's IBZ that come whit the 2550). Other than that, RGs are amazing pieces of gear, specially those with Prestige necks.

The new ZPS3 whammy system looks great. I don't know how much the piezo system may affect the sound or the action of the whammy.

Both models have different switching system, this may affect the sound, and one has 3 pups while the other has 2.

I would personally go for the 2550Z

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post Sep 8 2008, 09:02 AM
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QUOTE (blindwillie @ Sep 8 2008, 08:58 AM) *
Yeah, that's the impression I got too. That's about all I could find about it though.
Is it still a good choice for rock? Hard rock? Metal? Or does the piezo make it less suited for these genres?
Compared to the RG2550Z? http://www.ibanez.co.jp/products/eg_page20...mp;series_id=51

Can't comment on the piezo, don't know anything there.

The guitar though is good for genres like Metal and hard rock I'd say, Basswood has great mids and is perfect for the solo parts and shredders in general. Mmmmodern fusion stuff too I guess.

Now, I don't own lots of expensive guitars myself that I can compare with but I've read up a lot on the theory for my guitar building project - that was halted due to rebuilding of the house and now I'm laying out bricks nicely all around the garden.
Anyway, basswood isn't a wood that really interests me for my sound preferences. Now I'll be a little mean towards Ibanez but it's a soft wood, really soft. Makes routing, sanding etc. fast and cheap for the Ibanez factory. Surely part of the choise of wood lies right there rather than excellent sound qualities huh.gif
Other guitars like the Musicman Petrucci are also made of basswood, and Petrucci is another shredder so perfect for shredders. Yes!

I'll be honest, I'm a lousy shredder. My interest lies more in the vintage sounds, rock and blues. Oh well, some modern too for that matter. but in my little world right now there exist only two base woods for guitars. That's either adler or mahogany (Frender or Gibson). That's for the base, then the LP is laminated with a maple top but concider the base woods adler and mahogany (in my narrow world)
If I were into shredding I'd say Basswood, but I wont. Oh, I used my Ibanez when I played in a Dream Theater cover band where it worked perfectly.

As I see it the search for a guitar starts within these companies. Ok, I blamed Ibanez for using wood that's cheap to work with, but they hog the better pieces for themselves so there's nothing wrong with the quality. Fender should also get a piece of it since they also are aware of that less money spend on production equals more earnings. Simple straight profiles, the neck is straight (even the headstock, no tilt or anything special there) and easy to aseble with a straight body.
So if you're into metal, I think first a Les Paul. If you're uncomfortable with the singlecut have a look at SG or any doublecut PRS. For modern rock both Les Paul or a Strat would do the trick. And it's derivates (PRS, Suhr and more) where the derivates sometimes are more expencive and "better" while they can also be cheaper and not as good but perhaps good enough (Squier, Epiphone, Yamaha, J&D). Or in the basswood case we could say Schecter is derived from Ibanez.

And in your case, you already have a couple Schecter guitars, basswood too right? So getting an Ibanez would be like having triplets, three Volvo cars, three german shepards or three equal looking girlfriends tongue.gif

I'm just afraid you'd be missing out if you get stuck in the basswood swamp when there are so much more other sounds you can achive just by thinking outside the basswood box laugh.gif




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post Sep 8 2008, 10:15 AM
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QUOTE (MickeM @ Sep 8 2008, 10:02 AM) *
And in your case, you already have a couple Schecter guitars, basswood too right? So getting an Ibanez would be like having triplets, three Volvo cars, three german shepards or three equal looking girlfriends tongue.gif

I'm just afraid you'd be missing out if you get stuck in the basswood swamp when there are so much more other sounds you can achive just by thinking outside the basswood box laugh.gif

Great thoughts. That's the reasoning I was looking for, and I want more of that for the piezos in a metal/shredd context.
You are right. I'm into mahogany myself. I have a Hellraiser, mahogany, accompanied by a swamp ash Fender to get something completly different.

This is for my son though. He is choosing between those two Ibanezes, leaning more to the RG1820. I just don't know anything about that configuration except that it's not the best of the Ibanez pickups.
He plays very diverse music but main thing is metal and most of all shredding. He's hero is Buckethead. He have a Schecter Revenger which is mahogany too and is looking for another guitar with other characteristics. And a tremolo.

So he is a shredder. He likes the idea of the versitality with acoustic sound. He wants a tremolo on this one and he loves the Ibanez necks.
No store in town has the RG1820 so we can try it and I really dislike the idea of ordering it blindly. Or deafly rather.

I like the idea of three girlfriends though biggrin.gif


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post Sep 8 2008, 12:57 PM
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can't say much about the quality of the piezo but i still use my v7/v8-pickups in my rg570 and i think they are not the worst pickups out there. you can always switch them later if you don't like their sound but they're ok for stock pickups.


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post Sep 8 2008, 02:38 PM
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I have a Piezo on my Peavey guitar and it has pretty interesting tones. But I suggest that you try it in store before you buy it, very combination of pickups, and on well known amp.


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post Sep 8 2008, 04:59 PM
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QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Sep 8 2008, 03:38 PM) *
I have a Piezo on my Peavey guitar and it has pretty interesting tones. But I suggest that you try it in store before you buy it, very combination of pickups, and on well known amp.

OK. Thanks all so far.
As you said we want to try before buy so that leaves only the 2550 if we can't find one to try. We also got a great offer on a RG2620 we will consider.


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post Sep 8 2008, 06:11 PM
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I have those V7 and V8 pickups in my RG2008 LTD and the INF3 and INF4 in my RG320 PG2 and they don't sound so much different in my opinion so if i would have an RG prestige with the V7/V8 i would have them replaced asap.

I love my RG's but for my next guitar i think it will be a Fender american strat with HSS configuration instead of a prestige model from Ibanez or would an S series be good for blues?

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