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holoshreder
post Sep 12 2008, 12:15 AM
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hey guys

enjoying alot practicing hard my lessons and eventualy got to this big little problem

i cant make a lick all my phrases sound all the same its really getting to me not being able to

make a cool phrase with smart licks using bends HO and PO

its really frustrating and i dont think its because im lacking inspiration

its like i know what i want to do but i cant make it happen on the fretboard

can you guys give me some advice?

i realy need to break that barrier and BREAK is the right word

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post Sep 12 2008, 12:27 AM
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Don't quite understand the question, you are trying to come up with your own licks, and you hear them in your head, but can't do them on the fretboard?


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post Sep 12 2008, 12:36 AM
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QUOTE (Jose Mena @ Sep 12 2008, 12:27 AM) *
Don't quite understand the question, you are trying to come up with your own licks, and you hear them in your head, but can't do them on the fretboard?


I understood the same...For that, there's a division called "ear trainning", if that's the problem, try to find what you hear on your head in the fretboard, note by note...


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post Sep 12 2008, 12:45 AM
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what i ment was that i cant make up my own licks
i think its really a phrasing problem mostly

do you have any advice on how i can improve my phrasing?

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post Sep 12 2008, 12:52 AM
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I would say that comes with experience. Listen to everything possible. I had that problem long ago but later I could easily come up with interesting stuff. What style do you like? For example when I wanted to learn modern way of blues phrasing I listened to Robben Ford 24/7 and now it's a whole sea of licks in my hands that I can easily convert to what I need in music. It just takes time.


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well my favorite bands are Rammstein, Metallica, Iron maiden

i also enjoy Joe Satriani

i guess im rushing things iv been playing for 8/9 months and im really forcing my self to excell

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post Sep 12 2008, 01:17 AM
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QUOTE (holoshreder @ Sep 12 2008, 12:58 AM) *
well my favorite bands are Rammstein, Metallica, Iron maiden

i also enjoy Joe Satriani

i guess im rushing things iv been playing for 8/9 months and im really forcing my self to excell

thx for your words Emir laugh.gif

thx all of you


Ok now I got the point. You want some rock/metal licks. All bands that you mentiond are influenced by some older stuff. Kirk Hamet, Joe Satriani and both Maiden (now 3) guitarists listened to Jimi Hendrix, Ritchie Blackmore, Jimmy Page, Jeff Beck and similar guitarists. They would never have good sounding licks if they learned from metal bands similar to what they play. That's why I said listen to everything possible and time will tell.


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post Sep 12 2008, 01:18 AM
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There is a good exercise that Scott Henderson does. You take a lick that you like from some guitar player and twist it until you make it your own.
You've said Satriani is one of your favorites, well try listen to Blues players like Robben Ford, B.B King, S.R.V even Jimi Hendrix (Satch is/was a very big fan of the guy) and pay attention to the influence of that kind of playing into the Satriani's licks.
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post Sep 12 2008, 09:01 AM
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Listen to others as much as you can! Try to get someone licks and try to mod to your taste! When you are jamming over a backing track, try to sing what your head "play" and then if like, try to play it for real on the guitar, more and more!


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post Sep 12 2008, 09:05 AM
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Practice scales and try to come up with licks from the scale nd the try to play it in different boxes or even different scales... But as Emir said it takes time and experience and since you only have been playing 8/9 months this isent easy but try to learn some scales and how they sound and also listened to you favorite guitarist and get som inspiration from there......


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post Sep 12 2008, 06:18 PM
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I would suggest also to play fingerings that you are not used to , just force yourself to play something that you wouldn't normally (you practice scales in patterns, you want to get away from them).Try playing weird (to you) fingering in order to come up with new phrases , and maybe more original smile.gif


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