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post Sep 28 2008, 11:36 PM
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Hello all

Turns out a number of my friends play various instruments and have decided that it's time to put together a little group with the sole intention of jamming (i doubt we'll be doing the "band thing" as our situation can't really accomodate that). Whilst i haven't been playing all that long and don't feel i'm any good at all, i feel that playing with other people in this environment is a great way to learn new things and important in my guitar development.

I've only got a week before our first jam session and i have never done any "jamming" before, or even played in front of other people so i'm kinda nervous (excited too obviously!).

Anyhoo, can anyone give any advice for the prospective jammer? I'd be super grateful if anyone could recommend a few of the easier lessons that would be suited for that environment, just so i have a more comfortable bank of easy things to play or something simple that i can easily mess around with and vary with different strumming patterns and such (all styles are ok!).

All help is much appreciated! Cheers.

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post Sep 29 2008, 12:07 AM
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You can play simple 12 bar blues. For ex. A, D, E. That always works on a jam. "Smoke on the Water" is also a cool one.

With minor pentatonic you can never go wrong, just make some cool licks and make sure you're in a right key.

Good luck there

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post Sep 29 2008, 12:27 AM
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i agree with Emir, the pentatonic minor scale is great for jamming
i suggest you to practise jamming on this scale, and soon you will get the hang of jamming and you will learn cool lick to play on pentatonic scale laugh.gif

good luck on that mate, and have fun jamming with friends


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I agree with ^^ Learn the minor pentatonic scale and try to come up with some licks that you can use while jamming......

And dont be nervous that you are going to mess up since your playing with friends and your only playing for fun, so everything dont have to perfect.........

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post Sep 29 2008, 01:14 PM
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It is cool for a jamm to do some basic blues progressions for starters. THen you can do some rock or jazz standards, and one can play a theme, while others then wait their turn for soloing. Someone has to take over the role or a "jamm leader" and give roles to musicians, like who is gonna play rhythm for the next tune, who's in line for soloing etc. This could be the person with most musical knowledge, so it can keep the jamming session nice and entertaining.


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As mentioned. Practice a blues-12. Both with a base at the A string (A D E) aswell with a base at the E string (E A B )

EDIT: I mean, just so you're sequre when you're jamming and don't have to "think" incase you're used to Blues in A and all of a sudden there's a jam in E and that makes you unsure since it's differnt moving pattern so to speak... unless you have a 7 string, extra B string. dry.gif You get the point

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I agree with the others, pentatonic scales and some easy blues patterns are good to jam. Keep in mind that this should be fun for all of you, it is not a competition, where everybody tries to outshine the others. You should play together, not against each other, listen to what the others are playing and enjoy the session.


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post Sep 29 2008, 07:08 PM
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Thanks for the advice, just in time for me too, I just found out that I can go and jam with my friends at the school auditorium every friday after school for as long as I/we like
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post Sep 29 2008, 07:15 PM
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I had one of these with PAUL GILBERT!!! Yesterday, didn't go really good since my hands were shaking of nervousity. But oboy! That guy can JAM! It was awesome.

But what I really learned from it is that you should not be afraid to mimic what the other person do, that's a great way to learn things when jamming. You should also try things you're unsure of, I mean, if you never try how are you going to know if it works?

Also, don't try to rush it. Start slow by doing some nice licks that you're really comferable with, really helps to get the steam going.

When you hear something really REALLY awesome, ask how it's done and if possible how he/she came up with it. That's the cool thing about jamming with a real person, instead of "virtual" teachers. I know that you guys are real, but in MY reality, you're virtual, kinds of.

Also, make sure that no one's much louder than the others. REALLY destroys the jam session, unless you're jamming with Paul G. I mean... you're as good off watching him play as enjoying to play yourself.

Also, remember that Jamming like this might just be one of the hardest things you can do! Why? Several reasons.

1) You can't redo a failed lick or something, you have to remember what didn't work and then work on it when you get home
2) You have to make up what to play when you play it, instead of playing things you've practised for years.

etc. But this is also a reason why it's so rewarding. Man, I hope you'll have a great time and ROCK ON!


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post Sep 30 2008, 10:19 AM
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Thats what I was talking about too, listen to the others, of course also watch their hands, see what they are doing, like this you can learn so much. And of course, never hesitate to ask if you want to know something.


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QUOTE (Chief Brody @ Sep 29 2008, 12:36 AM) *
Hello all

Turns out a number of my friends play various instruments and have decided that it's time to put together a little group with the sole intention of jamming (i doubt we'll be doing the "band thing" as our situation can't really accomodate that). Whilst i haven't been playing all that long and don't feel i'm any good at all, i feel that playing with other people in this environment is a great way to learn new things and important in my guitar development.

I've only got a week before our first jam session and i have never done any "jamming" before, or even played in front of other people so i'm kinda nervous (excited too obviously!).

Anyhoo, can anyone give any advice for the prospective jammer? I'd be super grateful if anyone could recommend a few of the easier lessons that would be suited for that environment, just so i have a more comfortable bank of easy things to play or something simple that i can easily mess around with and vary with different strumming patterns and such (all styles are ok!).

All help is much appreciated! Cheers.


Well, I would advice you to learn the majorscale, as it is the most adaptable one to any situation.
That way you could easily play all over the neck without ever going wrong smile.gif

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post Oct 2 2008, 01:37 AM
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Minor pentatonic is perfect place to start. Blues is standard for any JAM situation really so start learning it in all keys, create your own licks learn from other players and apply their licks in your playing. Major scale, modes, arpeggios , chromatic approaches , approach patterns , motive development ,repetition , q&a type of phrasing - you can use so many things - possibilities are endless really!


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post Oct 3 2008, 06:52 PM
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So how could I start to learn blues in all keys? :S Like where could I see how it goes or something, and if it's like A,D,E, should i just play the A triad D triad E triad or in a power chord form, or anything I like or... I'm lost..
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post Oct 4 2008, 05:28 PM
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You can check out my blues groove library lesson fro some ideas mate. If you wanna play in some different key, all you have to do is transfer the I chord to some other note on the low E string.


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post Oct 4 2008, 11:15 PM
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QUOTE (Tsarpf @ Oct 3 2008, 07:52 PM) *
So how could I start to learn blues in all keys? :S Like where could I see how it goes or something, and if it's like A,D,E, should i just play the A triad D triad E triad or in a power chord form, or anything I like or... I'm lost..



There will be whole series of lessons that I will do on that but I will give you some quick pointers right now:

- Use Minor pentatonic or Blues scale to solo over blues
- Use arpeggios (like you mentioned A , D E triads etc)
- Combine Minor with Major pentatonic
- Use Minor 6 pentatonic
- Use REPETITION
- Learn Blues riffs/melodies and play them in all keys

So many more things but I hope this helps you out to start.

Blues players to check out : BB King, Eric Clapton, Gary Moore, Albert King, Jeff Haley, Stevie Ray Vaughn etc

You can even find rock/metal or whatever style you are into players and check out their approach on blues. Satriani, Vai, Johnson, Petrucci etc

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post Oct 5 2008, 12:12 PM
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Thanks Ivan, didn't find that one myself, looks like just the thing I wanted tongue.gif

and thanks Pedja for the pointers thingy, I'll use it as a some sort checklist
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post Oct 7 2008, 06:10 PM
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Hey Chief....how did the jam session turn out?

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Haha, I have had pretty bad experiences with 12 bar blues blink.gif
I like to use blues elements in my soloing, but I don't like that typical shuffle-blues very much.
So, when I had a guitar lesson at the music school I'm going to, the teacher wanted me to tell about one likeness between a jazz song he showed me and a typical blues. The answer was that the chord scheme was a 12-bar, but I don't play that much blues, so I just sat there clueless. I felt so stupid laugh.gif


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QUOTE (Tsarpf @ Oct 5 2008, 01:12 PM) *
Thanks Ivan, didn't find that one myself, looks like just the thing I wanted tongue.gif


No problem mate, that's what we are here for. Let us know how the session went.

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