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post Oct 11 2008, 07:24 PM
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QUOTE (Zizi Top @ Oct 9 2008, 05:10 PM) *
Well I'd say that in your guitar neck, if you learn your scales shape, then you just have to transpose them all over the neck, and you can play with whatever key you want to. also something that might be good too, is learning all intervalls shape on you neck .
As for Piano, it ain't that good ! I prefer guitar, it's cooler because you can do bends, slide, add vibrato, lot's of feeling, (even if I like Piano too). and as for scale on piano, it ain't that good too, because what you said (about the black for sharps and white for "natural keys") it can be applied only for the C major scale, but if you're playing another scale, it's completely different. for example playing the A major key would be a completely different positions, my advices for you would be to learn intervalls, or scales (on guitar or piano).

If you know how to play piano, would you do a lesson on the basics of pianoplaying for the lot of us that don't know how to play? smile.gif
Man, I'd love to know how to play the piano smile.gif

QUOTE (Ramiro Delforte @ Oct 11 2008, 06:49 PM) *
Thanx! If anybody have questions about the piano and wants to post them I could try to bring a hand on that smile.gif
Also I recommend a few treatises of orchestration

Walter Piston - Orchestration

Hector Berlioz- Treatise on orchestration

Casella - Orchestration

Those books are really helpful to understand the mecanics, range and various things about orchestral instruments.

Got any easy books on how to play the thing too? tongue.gif
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post Oct 12 2008, 02:01 PM
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piano makes me crazy...sound so great...i'm was werry imprese to heard 1 litle lady to play when i'm was working on her house......if the day be have more hours...i'm will be like to learn play more instrument like Guitar...Piano will be the second stuff after guitar!!!!!!

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post Oct 12 2008, 02:39 PM
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With guitar it's really easy that you can just transpose things by shoving everything up a fret. This isn't possible on piano!

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post Oct 12 2008, 04:39 PM
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I got a keyboard but i dont play it that much since i dont have any good lessons like GMC to help me but i would very much like to learn how to play and write keyboard parts that bands like

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post Oct 12 2008, 04:52 PM
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I've played the piano for 2 years, and i'm still trying to maintain a decent level with some cool minuetts and etudes (mainly from the baroque and romantic period), but the reason why i like guitar better is because you get much closer to creating the sound. Other than considering electric guitar as one of the most versatile instruments due to the millions of effects, you can also create distinctive sound by picking differently, tapping, bending, striking the string harder to gain a certain amount of harmonics, and of course: there are harmonics, vibrato, legato etc.

This way you are basically standing beside the cradle of each sound (oops, to poetical that was... unsure.gif ), you develop them the way you wish.
On the piano, you can only achieve dinamics or the length of a note by pedals (the 3rd pedal for dampening). Still it is only the little hammers which hit the strings.

Same way: guitar is a bit more simple instrument, since you don't really play that much poliphonic stuff (you achive this effect with some serious tapping, or dealy, or hybrid picking + string skipping etc.), whereas on a piano in more difficult pieces you might have to play with both hands totally independently. However, single guitar tunes (especially because of the strong style presented in distinctive playing) are much more stronger.

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post Oct 12 2008, 05:19 PM
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Well, I'm not a real good piano player. But I can compose stuff I like myself. I can find a note much easier on a guitar fret, then on a piano. I have to touch every note to hear if it's the same. But when you found one, the rest will follow up very fast.
I think both instruments can be played with some very good hearing skills. I can find out music notes that has been played by another band much easier then my wife on guitar and piano. And that while she's a real piano (classic) player...

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QUOTE (audiopaal @ Oct 11 2008, 08:24 PM) *
If you know how to play piano, would you do a lesson on the basics of pianoplaying for the lot of us that don't know how to play? smile.gif
Man, I'd love to know how to play the piano smile.gif

I'm not that good at piano, I don't practice it !! I just know some theories about it, and how to improvise with the blues scale... as for lessons, I thought maybe ramiro can do them, he seems to be a good piano player smile.gif

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post Oct 12 2008, 06:08 PM
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I played piano a long time ago. I think that piano is a great first instrument because the way it's set up makes it easy to learn how music works on. However, I don't like it that much as an instrument.

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post Oct 13 2008, 12:20 AM
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I play both instruments but my skills are way weaker on Piano. Having said this I can play scales , chords, inversions here and there and improvise (chords in the left melody in the right etc).
Here is my take on it :

1) Piano is STRAIGHT LINE(left right) vs Guitar that's ALL OVER THE PLACE (left right down up and everything combined)
2) Piano has one note on a certain place vs Guitar where you have that same note on more places (exact same note that is)
3) Piano has a largest range vs Guitar that has 3 octaves (4 the most if you have 24 frets )
4) Piano has different fingering for every scale and chord vs Guitar where you can instantly move same fingering for scales and chords with no difficulty whatsoever
5) Piano has no bends, slides nor vibrato vs Guitar that has all these and other cool techniques
6) Piano has one sound vs Guitar that has multiple sounds just by changing the place where you play and what your right hand does!

This list can go on and on really but I think this is enough to get you thinking about it smile.gif



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post Oct 13 2008, 09:11 AM
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Amazing topic.smile.gif
I play a bit of bout,and I can say that for me,piano and guitar neck are two different worlds.I compose one kind of music on piano and I use piano for more theoretical things,because scales are more "reachable" on piano and plus 8 octaves.

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post Oct 16 2008, 08:27 AM
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I've played the piano for a couple of years. I had to do this in music school and university. I've hated piano lessons but later it turned out very helpful. I compose mostly on the piano, but guitar for me is the best instrument to express my emotions.

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