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post Oct 10 2008, 05:28 PM
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Hey guys am new here this is my first post in this section of the forum, just want some advice on where to start with theory, i know the basics (caged system, few intervals, notes on Bottom E and A and technically top E too laugh.gif , pentatonic scale). I basically want to start gettin serious with soloing and improvising and stuff like that and i think theory will help (correct me if wrong laugh.gif ).

Where should i start because i want to be able to look at the fretboard and know exactly what my fingers are doing and where they should be going instead of relying on scale boxes. Should i learn all the notes on the fretboard (if so how, i really struggle to concentrate when it comes to theory too sad.gif)

Any advice would be great - ooo also if someone could help ive been practicing my sweep picking for a while and want to know if im doing the technique right. Say you are starting on bottom E string and there is 2 notes on the same string would you alternate pick those too notes, pick both down or hammer on to the second note? huh.gif i currently use alternate pickin just for that and then carry on the sweep.

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post Oct 10 2008, 05:57 PM
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Hi and welcome to GMC

I have some lessons published where you can find some useful theory stuff.

In this one you have CAGED system drawn and intervals. The lesson is about major scale modes.

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guit...-c-major-scale/


Here you have charts for minor pentatonic, major pentatonic and blues scale in 5 positions.

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guit...rd-style-blues/


Also check Andrew's theory lessons on the forum. You have some great theory topics there.

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post Oct 11 2008, 01:51 AM
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Thanks for your help guys, starting tommorow i will be concentrating on a lot of theory as well as technique rather than just technique laugh.gif Thanks again Emir, i have checked out your videos and are very useful it makes it very clear how the 7 modes fit into the scale smile.gif

thanks opeth.db tht links is brill, its got everything and it even tells you if its beginner theory-advanced which means i know exactly where to start smile.gif

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post Oct 11 2008, 02:30 AM
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The way i learned all the notes is i took one string a day. And went up and down the string saying the notes out loud, First saying the Whole tones E, F, G ,A.. etc. Then the Semi-Tones F#/Gb,G#/Ab,etc.. then say both the semitones and the whole tones. At the end of the day go for the challenge were you pick a random fret and try to name the note.(While saying them out loud try to sing them to pitch to train your ear.). It is vital to know the frets marked by your fret markers as they serve for great reference. I dont know all the notes, but i can name them in under 15 seconds about given anyplace, so i guess this works for some.


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post Oct 11 2008, 03:47 AM
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I highly recommend this software to learn your fretboard: www.guitarapp.webs.com, download the programm called Fretsnap.


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post Oct 11 2008, 10:53 AM
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Thanks for your replies guys i like ur idea sami i will try to use ur way to learnt the fretboard (what i was thinking is sticking really small bits of paper under the strings on each fret but that would limit any string bending - i thowt this way because i would be able to see each note while playing and eentually when taking them off i would still see those note) laugh.gif obviously i would use my cheap guitar to do this lol. Anyway i like your idea biggrin.gif

Ignite i will also try to download that software and give that a go too i didnt know of any software that helped in this way laugh.gif

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post Oct 11 2008, 11:15 AM
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QUOTE (Sami @ Oct 11 2008, 03:30 AM) *
First saying the Whole tones E, F, G ,A.. etc. Then the Semi-Tones F#/Gb,G#/Ab,etc.. then say both the semitones and the whole tones.


Just a tiny correction Sami,from E to F there's a semi tone distance,not whole tone. smile.gif
Perhaps you were thinking of white and black keys on the keyboard,
white keys as the main notes,without sharps or flats?

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and Andrew's lessons are great place for learning theory for sure. smile.gif


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Check out Andrews theory lessons. So far he has done the most at GMC when it comes to theory. Its very easy to read and follow and its very well organized.
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post Oct 11 2008, 03:58 PM
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As everyone pointed out, ANdrew's lessons are the good place to start. ALso it would be wise to learn the notes on the rest 3 strings. If you already know "technically" 3 of them, then you only need to learn just 3 more. If you think about it, that's not so hard at all, and it will only do you good in the long run.


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Hey thanks again for your replies smile.gif
Thanks for your advice Pedja and Ivan i will get right onto Andrews theory lessons and i will learnt the remaining 3 strings ( just find it hard to pick a fret on a string and name the note straight away it takes some time to work out laugh.gif )

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QUOTE (Pedja Simovic @ Oct 11 2008, 07:59 AM) *
Check out Andrews theory lessons. So far he has done the most at GMC when it comes to theory


So far ? I sense you will be adding to GMC theory knowledge as well with more excellent theory based lessons - looking forward to it!


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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Oct 11 2008, 11:15 AM) *
Just a tiny correction Sami,from E to F there's a semi tone distance,not whole tone. smile.gif
Perhaps you were thinking of white and black keys on the keyboard,
white keys as the main notes,without sharps or flats?

Good advices tho,
and Andrew's lessons are great place for learning theory for sure. smile.gif


Yes thats what i most definitely meant! sorry for the confusion, a silly mistake indeed haha
When learning the notes of the fret board my intention was to learn the whole C major scale across the neck(which i know now) so i thought of it as learning all the "white keys" (or all the notes that are in C major on each string), and then all the out of key notes.


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So true... To bad im still an artichoke haha
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QUOTE (Andrew Cockburn @ Oct 12 2008, 03:44 AM) *
So far ? I sense you will be adding to GMC theory knowledge as well with more excellent theory based lessons - looking forward to it!


Thanks Andrew
I will definitely add a lot more concepts when I get my own board. It doesn't feel right to abuse this general board with that kind of information if you know what I mean smile.gif


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