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post Oct 14 2008, 09:15 PM
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Hi all again!^^


I'm planning to buy myself a new guitar, cause my first guitar I ever bought and am still using is starting to show some usage flaws. So, I was wondering, if I'm buying a new guitar, what should I look at then? Cause I'm not very good in the technical section of the guitar...

Also, if you can be specific with a guitar brand, a guitar even, please do let me know!


Thanx already!

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post Oct 14 2008, 09:40 PM
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For an electric look for the aucoustic sound when it's not plugged in. that will tell a lot about the guitars sustain etc.

But of course you have to test a few if you're inexperienced so you can compare and detemine what's good and what's not.


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post Oct 14 2008, 09:45 PM
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I look for comfort in the neck.

Try the chords you know. Scales. Whatever. Give it a workout. Is it comfortable. What do you like about it? What do you NOT like about it. Talk to the tech at the store. Ask him if any adjustments can be made (for free) if you buy it.

Make sure it sounds good for what you like to play.

If you play clean tone stuff a lot. Make sure you check the sound of the guitar in that setting. Same with overdrive.

Test the knobs. Are they tight? Do they turn like they are supposed to? Do they turn too far? Is the jack quiet? Wiggle the cord. Still quiet?

If its got a whammy bar, whammy it!!!!!! Is it staying in tune?

If the strings are old and corroded, ask them to change them.



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post Oct 14 2008, 09:50 PM
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There are many aspects to decide which guitar to get, but I'll tell you what I think is the most important one:

Buy a guitar you feel comfortable playing with, and be sure that there's no buzzing in any of the frets. Play the guitar unpluged to check that, playing every single position in the fretboard looking for buzzing. Now, some very light buzzing in some positions can be normal if it is not heard through the amp (check that later), but as I said, you should spect very low to no buzzing at all in any position.

Of course this depends on the action on the guitar. If it is too low it will buzz. If it is too high it won't but it doesn't mean it won't once the action is "normal".

having said that, check that the guitar sounds good through the amp. Check every pickup position, twist all the knobs (tone/volume) to check they work,a nd they don't make weird sounds through the amp. Check that the cable plug doesn't make weird sounds either (move it a bit once the cable is plugged to check that).

Look for imperfections (dents, scratches) on the body of the guitar. Ask the guys about the tuning system, be sure that it stays in tune. A good shop usually provides a pro set-up on any new guitar sold (even if it's a cheap guitar).

If there's any particular style you enjoy playing maybe reasearch a bit some models you may like.

Stratocasters are a safe bet for single coil guitars, Les Pauls are a safe bet for humbucker guitars. Fender and Gibson are awesome. American fenders are awesome but expensive, mexican fenders can be great too and are cheaper, squier and pacifica models are good for beginners on budget. Gibsons are nice but expensive, Epiphones are awesome budget guitars. There are also a bunch of Ibanez guitars that are great in many price ranges.

Last but not least, take a look at the neck. It should look straight (not bent!) and well joined to the body, wether it's a bolt on neck or set neck, check that there are no cracks or bad looking things in the place where it joins the body.

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post Oct 14 2008, 10:20 PM
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What kind of music do you like, and what kind of guitar you are looking for mate? Is it electric, acoustic? Did you already saw some models that you like?

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post Oct 15 2008, 10:12 AM
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Thanx for all the info! smile.gif

And I'm playing electric guitar, might buy an acoustic later on because the sound of it is just out of this world! tongue.gif I like rock, metal, ... Kinda several genres. I have been told Ibanez is a good brand for that genre?
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post Oct 15 2008, 10:18 AM
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Give us as much info as possible so we can find the best possible guitar for you...

...you said Rock,Metal so that is covered, now we need info about:
-How much money can you spend?
-Do you prefer a guitar shape (Flying V, Strat, Les Paul, Sg...)?
-Do you want your guitar to have a tremolo?
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post Oct 15 2008, 11:36 AM
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Well, how much money, I would like to stay in the price class of 400-800 €
I don't really prefer a Flying V, and I'm not sure about other shapes... I'll give a link of what I think is a nice shape.
http://www.discosom.com/loja/images/_produ...0%20EX%20BK.gif

Well, about the tremolo, it can always be usefull. As long as it doesn't make my guitar get out of tune fast, then I think I'd like a tremolo! ^^

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post Oct 15 2008, 11:42 AM
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That Ibanez looks realy good,kind of reminds me off vai's universe axe slightly:)


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post Oct 15 2008, 03:37 PM
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I think this one will suit you perfectly:
http://www.thomann.de/de/schecter_diamond_...ck_atx_fr_b.htm

It looks awesome, it's well crafted, has an Original Floyd Rose tremolo, and great Seymour Duncan Active Pickups
Best guitar for Rock/Metal for the money you have IMO

Other choices For Rock/Metal WITH a tremolo I would say look at those two:

http://www.thomann.de/de/ibanez_js100bk.htm
http://www.thomann.de/de/ibanez_rg1570sdb.htm

Tremolos are great and stay in tune, perfectly crafted and the guitar sound good (great if you install better Pickups)

WITHOUT a tremolo I would say:

http://www.thomann.de/de/epiphone_les_paul_custom_ex_me.htm
http://www.thomann.de/de/schecter_diamond_c_1_elite_bk.htm


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post Oct 15 2008, 04:08 PM
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QUOTE (Sh4d0w @ Oct 14 2008, 10:15 PM) *
Hi all again!^^


I'm planning to buy myself a new guitar, cause my first guitar I ever bought and am still using is starting to show some usage flaws. So, I was wondering, if I'm buying a new guitar, what should I look at then? Cause I'm not very good in the technical section of the guitar...

Also, if you can be specific with a guitar brand, a guitar even, please do let me know!


Thanx already!

Stijn.


Humbuckers or not? If singlecoils, need humfree?

What kind of tremolo do you want? If you want a floyd rose tremolo, your guitar should be relatively expensive unless you want a rubbish out-of-tune-tremolo.

Pretty versatile guitar is a strat with a bridge humbucker really. Not much can go wrong with it.
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post Oct 15 2008, 04:09 PM
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For me the most important thing too look for in a guitar is TUNING STABILITY and sustain. Think about how easy it will be to pick up and play at anytime smile.gif


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post Oct 15 2008, 04:19 PM
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QUOTE (MickeM @ Oct 14 2008, 10:40 PM) *
For an electric look for the aucoustic sound when it's not plugged in. that will tell a lot about the guitars sustain etc.

But of course you have to test a few if you're inexperienced so you can compare and detemine what's good and what's not.
Please tell me about this? How can I listen what sustain I have? What could I do to improve sustain? What's a good sustain?biggrin.gif


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post Oct 15 2008, 04:42 PM
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QUOTE (Jesse @ Oct 15 2008, 05:19 PM) *
Please tell me about this? How can I listen what sustain I have? What could I do to improve sustain? What's a good sustain?biggrin.gif


Correct mic setup, preferably a hardtail bridge, lots of gain on amp, compressor, etc.
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One more thing: If you get a guitar with a trem system (like a floyd rose, etc.) remind that they take more time and effort to change strings and adjust.


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I think some Ibanez without floyd rose would do you perfect. FLoyd ROse is cool, but it is a bit complicated if you don't know much about guitars.
So any Ibanez with HSH configuration will do you just fine mate. I suggest you go into store and try several models, try to feel comfortable when you pay it, and see if the tone is good. It would be also wise to bring someone who is playing at least 10 years with you to assist you. I think that buying a guitar from internet and not trying it before is a big risk.


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post Oct 15 2008, 07:58 PM
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QUOTE (kjutte @ Oct 15 2008, 04:42 PM) *
Correct mic setup, preferably a hardtail bridge, lots of gain on amp, compressor, etc.


Exactly smile.gif


I picked a Hardtail guitar (e.g fixed bridge with strings through body) because it next to never goes out of tune ohmy.gif

Sustain is how long a note rings when you pick/pluck it, its important to have good sustain for solo work! So plug some guitars in and see how the measure up wink.gif


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QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Oct 15 2008, 08:55 PM) *
.... try to feel comfortable when you pay it...


Yeah, that's always the hardest part tongue.gif laugh.gif


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post Oct 16 2008, 08:46 AM
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QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Oct 15 2008, 08:55 PM) *
I think some Ibanez without floyd rose would do you perfect. FLoyd ROse is cool, but it is a bit complicated if you don't know much about guitars.
So any Ibanez with HSH configuration will do you just fine mate. I suggest you go into store and try several models, try to feel comfortable when you pay it, and see if the tone is good. It would be also wise to bring someone who is playing at least 10 years with you to assist you. I think that buying a guitar from internet and not trying it before is a big risk.




So should I choose the guitar that has been advised to me already? Cause well, should be going to the biggest musicstore in the country in a week or 2, so I'll have choice enough I guess!^^

But for the record, I should choose an Ibanez without floyd rose? What is this 'thing' actually ...tongue.gif
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You should choose whatever it is YOU feel comfortable and happy with smile.gif Just keep in mind the points everyone has mentioned wink.gif

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