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Guitar1969
post Oct 22 2008, 06:06 AM
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Whenever I see a lesson that has a lick that requires muting a string between two notes that are to be played simultaneously such as:

e - - - - -6 - - - -
b - - - - - - - - - -
g - - - - -6 - - - -
D - - - - - - - - - -
A - - - - - - - - - -
E - - - - - - - - - -

Or a chord that has muted strings in the middle of it, I shy away from it. I believe I know what I am supposed to do(lightly put a separate finger on it to deaden it), but I can't seem to do it(I usually put too much pressure on it, causing it to ring). I am wondering if there is another technique to this, or something that I am missing.

Is there a beginner/Intermediate oriented lesson(preferably spoken) that discusses this specific technique, as many of the lessons on GMC require this technique but I have not come accross a lesson that addresses this.

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post Oct 22 2008, 06:31 AM
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Hi MH,
In the example you give I would use my index finger on the G string and middle finger on the E string. I would also use my index finger to mute the B string. Just roll the index finger until it touches the B string.
Ivan has a lesson on muting ... here is the link. Good luck.
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post Oct 22 2008, 09:14 AM
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This is something that you need to train on.......

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post Oct 22 2008, 10:49 AM
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If both those strings are played with the pick
then there is supposed to be an X sign on B string
which means dead note.
And yes,usually it's mutes by using finger that you're using for G string.
But also you can use pick for G string and right hand middle finger
for high E string,this way you won't be playing B string at all
and so there is no need to focus on muting it.
I would suggest you to practice it both way,just in case. smile.gif


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You're right about the muting, but Paul Gilbert once gave a tip as well. It's on youtube. Use outside picking! So pick the 6th note on the G string with a downstroke and pick the 6th note on the E string with a up stroke. This can help not to touch the middle B string. Also if this doesn't work try inside picking, which is just he other way around!


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post Oct 22 2008, 03:14 PM
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QUOTE (kaznie_NL @ Oct 22 2008, 03:36 PM) *
You're right about the muting, but Paul Gilbert once gave a tip as well. It's on youtube. Use outside picking! So pick the 6th note on the G string with a downstroke and pick the 6th note on the E string with a up stroke. This can help not to touch the middle B string. Also if this doesn't work try inside picking, which is just he other way around!


This wouldn't work if you have to play both notes at the same time,
works only for separate notes.
And it the tab above I see that notes are lined vertically
on the same spot which means you have to play them at the same time. smile.gif


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I'm going with Muris' answer.
this is where you pick the two notes either with pick + a finger (pick any finger) or two fingers (thumb+index or index+ring just what feels right)

The string isn't muted here (I think I always mute the B string when it comes to this)
e - - - - -6 - - - -
b - - - - - - - - - -
g - - - - -6 - - - -
D - - - - - - - - - -
A - - - - - - - - - -
E - - - - - - - - - -


This is a stroke with the pick where you mute the middle string with the index finger that you placed on the G string.
e - - - - -6 - - - -
b - - - - -x- - - - -
g - - - - -6 - - - -
D - - - - - - - - - -
A - - - - - - - - - -
E - - - - - - - - - -

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post Oct 22 2008, 08:33 PM
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If you wanna mute the b string, the good way to do it is by placing the finger (the one that you fret the G string), slighlty over the b string to prevent it from ringing.


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post Oct 22 2008, 08:35 PM
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QUOTE (MickeM @ Oct 22 2008, 04:27 PM) *
I'm going with Muris' answer.
this is where you pick the two notes either with pick + a finger (pick any finger) or two fingers (thumb+index or index+ring just what feels right)

The string isn't muted here (I think I always mute the B string when it comes to this)
e - - - - -6 - - - -
b - - - - - - - - - -
g - - - - -6 - - - -
D - - - - - - - - - -
A - - - - - - - - - -
E - - - - - - - - - -


Spot on,it should be natural to mute it when you're not playing it. smile.gif


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post Oct 23 2008, 12:33 AM
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QUOTE (Col Roberts @ Oct 21 2008, 10:31 PM) *
Hi MH,
In the example you give I would use my index finger on the G string and middle finger on the E string. I would also use my index finger to mute the B string. Just roll the index finger until it touches the B string.
Ivan has a lesson on muting ... here is the link. Good luck.


Thanks for the link - I've been doing that lesson already, but was hoping for something more for muting strings that would be intentionally hit along with the note(If that makes sense). But I will try your technique.

Thanks,

mh

QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Oct 22 2008, 02:49 AM) *
If both those strings are played with the pick
then there is supposed to be an X sign on B string
which means dead note.
And yes,usually it's mutes by using finger that you're using for G string.
But also you can use pick for G string and right hand middle finger
for high E string,this way you won't be playing B string at all
and so there is no need to focus on muting it.
I would suggest you to practice it both way,just in case. smile.gif


So maybe the lesson I am refrring to is not really a muting and more of a picking/fingering as you described, as its written exactly the way I tabbed it out. Here it is:

David Wallimann's Essential Blues Licks you should know(3rd video page - tab is at bottom):

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guit...ou-should-know/

You will see there's a series of notes played like this near the end of the tab.

for the multiple picking technique as you described, is there a lesson you can recommend?

Thanks,
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post Oct 23 2008, 10:50 AM
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QUOTE (Guitar1969 @ Oct 23 2008, 01:33 AM) *
for the multiple picking technique as you described, is there a lesson you can recommend?

Thanks,
Michael


That would be hybrid picking and I'm just finishing a 3 level serial about it,
should be up and running next week or som. smile.gif


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post Oct 23 2008, 05:46 PM
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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Oct 23 2008, 02:50 AM) *
That would be hybrid picking and I'm just finishing a 3 level serial about it,
should be up and running next week or som. smile.gif


I'll be there - Hope I can keep up with your lesson.


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If you must play this two notes at the same time, the muting way depends on your fingering, if you are doing a barre, practice placing a barre on the first 3 strings, using a clean sound, press the barre one way that only the 1 rst string note is sounding nice, then only the second, then only the third and all the others combinations including two notes at the time., If fingering is 1-2 use the finger 4 to mute, if it is 2-3 use 1 or 4, if it is 3-4 use finger 1.
The principle is to damp low unused notes with the palm and the high strings with the side of finger 1, you can also use the palm to mute the high strings twisting the angle of the wrist.


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