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Kristofer Dahl
post Oct 28 2008, 09:40 PM
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Hi!

I have had "hot rails" installed on my strat - an even though they sound cool I have decided to go for the original pickup in the bridge position.

Now as far as I am concerned there is no "up and down" on a pickup - in other words it doesn't matter which end of the pickup goes with the highest string etc?

I would be grateful if someone could confirm this so I don't make a fool out of myself and my poor dissected guitar unsure.gif Thanks! smile.gif


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post Oct 28 2008, 09:42 PM
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On a humbucker it definitely matters so I guess it must be the same with coils


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post Oct 28 2008, 10:09 PM
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I found this at bareknucklepickups.com

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Does it matter which way round a pickup is fitted? Bare Knuckle humbucker designs feature both symmetrical and asymmetrical coils. Traditionally the screw coil goes nearest the bridge and nearest the neck respectively, but feel free to experiment for optimum tone.


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post Oct 28 2008, 10:10 PM
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Most standard single coils have the same pole pieces in all positions. But If they are staggered you have to put them in the right way. In general I would say you should follow a diagram like the one provided here. I think usually the lead cable should come out on the right side. If you have one in the middle position that is wound the other way you have to be carefully how you put them in so that the phase is right.

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post Oct 28 2008, 10:15 PM
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i agree with "its me"


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post Oct 28 2008, 10:20 PM
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BTW

I posted that already in some other thread. I really don't like the sound of Duncans too much. (they are in my guitar: have to do something about it) but the homepage is the best resource for all FAQs about pickups

check this out:

http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/choos...nstalling-pick/


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post Oct 28 2008, 11:07 PM
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QUOTE (ItsMe @ Oct 29 2008, 12:10 AM) *
Most standard single coils have the same pole pieces in all positions. But If they are staggered you have to put them in the right way. In general I would say you should follow a diagram like the one provided here. I think usually the lead cable should come out on the right side. If you have one in the middle position that is wound the other way you have to be carefully how you put them in so that the phase is right.


Aha - great advice! Since I have the original pickup in the middle position I should then just be able to check where the lead cable comes out from that one, and install the bridge pickup in the same way!

Thanks a lot! smile.gif


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post Oct 28 2008, 11:22 PM
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magnets have two poles, north and south.. on neighboring pickups the poles should be reversed..

maybe the easiest way would be if you face the bridge pickup on the middle one, and they would attract each other if the poles are reversed smile.gif

the same poles will not attract each other


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post Oct 29 2008, 08:06 AM
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Isn't the height of the "iron" that sticks up on a singelcoil different for some string positions? OR am I really stupid now?
Reference: http://www.seymourduncan.com/products/elec...lnico_ii_pro_s/
Look at the hight difference on left and right.


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post Oct 29 2008, 08:51 AM
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What you're referring to as Iron is the AlNiCo 5 magnets. They are (should be) of different length. Because of the difference in output from the different strings.

Regarding the neighbouring pickups being reverse polarity, reverse wound. This isn't something that you should mess around with. Either they are RP/RW or they aren't. Either way they should be installet the same way.


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Keep it simple with those single coil pickups, someone else did all the thinking before you so trust the wires come out in the right place already. wink.gif

Hence, if the wires exit to the right keep that side towards the pots and switch.
If they come out on one long side keep that side closer to the bridge.

Always aim for the shortest distance to where the wires belong and your pickup will sit the way it was intended.


When it comes to humbuckers some will sound different if they are turned the "wrong" way. Some are not marked in any way and there's no telling which goes where other than a N (for neck) and B (for bridge) in best case.
I don't know why but I put the bridge pick up with the wiring coming out to the right and the neck with it's wires coming out to the left. ...I think it's because a humbucking set with it's name printed on the front was that way.
If you don't know if it's a bridge or neck pickup and they have different center-center spacing put the wider one in the bridge. If your space between strings and pu isn't very very narrow bla bla bla bla I'm done.


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