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Obama or McCain?
Who do you choose?
Obama [ 115 ] ** [89.84%]
McCain [ 13 ] ** [10.16%]
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post Nov 1 2008, 08:11 AM
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Europeans and everyone else can vote. Anything that can save us from the Republicans (I used to be one b.t.w. before they went totally stupid and despicable)

I fully understand that if one has solid financial security and is primarily motivated by personal greed, or if a person otherwise is absolutely insane, that McCain could be the logical choice. And everyone has the right to vote as they choose, no matter how stupid.
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post Nov 1 2008, 08:22 AM
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laugh.gif usually when one conducts such a poll they try and leave their personal decision out of the picture...

all is good though... personally, I don't know enought about either candidate (and I don't think anyone can say they do know enough) so I am not voting (in the election). but if you put a gun to my head and said choose.... there I voted... but you dont know who... tongue.gif

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post Nov 1 2008, 09:19 AM
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Edit: ...and the choice is one of the easiest I've ever made smile.gif

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post Nov 1 2008, 09:31 AM
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QUOTE (audiopaal @ Nov 1 2008, 09:19 AM) *
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Edit: ...and the choice is one of the easiest I've ever made smile.gif


Me too. Obama is the man. smile.gif


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post Nov 1 2008, 09:41 AM
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QUOTE (Ctodd @ Nov 1 2008, 02:22 AM) *
laugh.gif usually when one conducts such a poll they try and leave their personal decision out of the picture...

all is good though... personally, I don't know enought about either candidate (and I don't think anyone can say they do know enough) so I am not voting (in the election). but if you put a gun to my head and said choose.... there I voted... but you dont know who... tongue.gif


I will explain it to you.

Republican plan - The haves keep what they have, preferably more, screw the peasants. Regarding the rest of the world, use them as we can, but screw them also, after all, they are all foreigners. Also keep paying 1 1/2 to 2 times the amount per person than they do in Europe and Canada for medical care, and convince everyone we have the best in the world, even though we rank 30th in the world in life expectancy. After all, we don't want to stand in line for 6 months like they have to do in Europe if they break their leg, before anyone treats it.

Democrat plan - Maybe the people who work their asses off for minimum wage deserve better, and maybe those who suck 100 times as much out of the system deserve a bit less. And maybe we should try to get along a bit better with the rest of the world.

You make your choice. But is is your duty to vote, even if one is nuts enough to vote Republican, still you should vote.

edit: spelling

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post Nov 1 2008, 09:48 AM
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Easiest choice made in a long time for me as well .... you don't even wanna think about having McCain as president, imagine he dies (he's quite young though tongue.gif) and then we are stuck with Palin as President (tbh that's even worse).



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post Nov 1 2008, 09:54 AM
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Cant vote,I think Ron Paul would have been the one for me!

Obama and Mccain are an illusion in choice as are most goverments that fool the people into thinking that every 4 years or so they have a choice in how their country is run.There not the ones who make policies,you have to follow the money trail to see who is moudling this planet into increasing their families vast wealth at the expense of us normal people.

We are nothing but cattle to be milked of our money,and be slaves to this system from birth to death(and taxed beyond death!)

Lets get rid of all of them! tongue.gif


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post Nov 1 2008, 10:09 AM
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QUOTE (Velvet Roger @ Nov 1 2008, 03:48 AM) *
Easiest choice made in a long time for me as well .... you don't even wanna think about having McCain as president, imagine he dies (he's quite young though tongue.gif) and then we are stuck with Palin as President (tbh that's even worse).


My Brother runs a Newspaper in the South. Even being Catholic, he wrote an Editorial endorsing Obama. The response from the public there was hilarious. He got called every nasty name in the book. Someone said of my brother "he has more integrity than he has brains". He called the Palin choice "bizarre".

That is what pretty much sold me on Obama, his decent choice of VP. After McCain's choice, I am thinking that those who say the guy is half nuts may be on to something.

QUOTE (Noangels @ Nov 1 2008, 03:54 AM) *
We are nothing but cattle to be milked of our money,and be slaves to this system from birth to death(and taxed beyond death!)

Lets get rid of all of them! tongue.gif


It is not relevant. The point is, that the alternative to Democracy is much worse, whatever the problems we have, whatever the flaws, it is better than the alternative. So that is why you vote, it is your duty, vote for Bozo the Clown if you want, but it is your duty to vote.
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post Nov 1 2008, 11:51 AM
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Easy. Obama. We are in serious trouble over the world if McCain wins.


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post Nov 1 2008, 12:34 PM
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QUOTE (OrganisedConfusion @ Nov 1 2008, 11:51 AM) *
Easy. Obama. We are in serious trouble over the world if McCain wins.

In the world of post modern thinking "truth is just a matter of opinion, devoid of facts".

(please see bottom for my vote)

This is not an election but simply a selection made by what should be known as the "US state run Media".

To my european brothers and sisters look at the facts.

To the world who has under gone the "economic" crisis understand this is a result of Democrates plain and simple. THe facts are there, the voting records, hearings are a matter of public record yes read them and weep. Barney Franks (D) champion of "fannie mae" and the sub-prime mortgae industry. Whose lover was the CEO but he and Barney are no longer togather. Chris Dodd, banking chair and once again a (D) took a sweet heart mortgae deal with a low low intrest rate that you or I could ever get. Did nothing but turn the other way.

Bush 2003 told the congress to " fix the mess"

Mcain 2005 put a bill on the floor to reform the sub-prime mortgae industry. Democrates filubustered the bill and never made it to the floor.

Why vote for a candidate that voted to raise taxes 95 times. Why vote for a canidate that believes in re-distribution of so-called wealth. Why vote for a candidate who has spent $600 million to buy the election. Why vote for a canidate whose party will have full reign in the congress and the senate. Why vote for a canidate that chose a running mate whose "expertise" is forgein policy but yet in his debate he made 14 false statements and knows nothing about forgein afffairs. The consquences under Obama will be much greater.

On the other said not much can be said.

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I'd choose intelligence over guns and violence any day so Obama is who I'd vote for.


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I think the poll speaks for itself smile.gif 22 to 1 lol biggrin.gif


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I think Obama and Mccain could both do good for the States in their own way...

But I vote Obama as I am terrified of that Palin woman's radical and fanatic politics..

+ I think too many innocent people have died in Iraq as it is, and I support Obamas opinion about withdrawing as soon and as clean as possible.

I believe in Iraq getting stabilized. I just don't think military power is going to do anything other than making more enemies and getting people killed. All those money spend on missiles, bullets and fuel can be put to way better use.


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QUOTE (OrganisedConfusion @ Nov 1 2008, 07:50 AM) *
I think the poll speaks for itself smile.gif 22 to 1 lol biggrin.gif


Actually, no, it just proves that the rest of the world wants what it perceives to be best for it, but funnily enough, the Americans are going to vote for what they perceive to be best for them ...

Oh, and here is the obligatory warning:

Lets keep this one Civil guys - no name calling please


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My vote is on Mr Guitartube biggrin.gif

We could however have a problem when he calls other leaders "you prick" and says "I'll crush you like mosquito". I know he's good hearted but maybe lacks some humbleness. But still, a good call for president!


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QUOTE (MickeM @ Nov 1 2008, 08:07 AM) *
My vote is on Mr Guitartube biggrin.gif

We could however have a problem when he calls other leaders "you prick" and says "I'll crush you like mosquito". I know he's good hearted but maybe lacks some humbleness. But still, a good call for president!


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QUOTE (Noangels @ Nov 1 2008, 03:54 AM) *
Cant vote,I think Ron Paul would have been the one for me!

Obama and Mccain are an illusion in choice as are most goverments that fool the people into thinking that every 4 years or so they have a choice in how their country is run.There not the ones who make policies,you have to follow the money trail to see who is moudling this planet into increasing their families vast wealth at the expense of us normal people.

We are nothing but cattle to be milked of our money,and be slaves to this system from birth to death(and taxed beyond death!)

Lets get rid of all of them! tongue.gif


I'm with Noangels on this one; I can't stand either of them thus I'm voting Libertarian (Bob Barr/Wayne Root) and voting against any incumbant in the other races whether democrat or republican. The definition of insane is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result....we've been voting for the same two parties for the past 50+ years here and they both suck. They only care about staying in power and getting re-elected....no matter what the cost. Throw the bums out!
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