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Nov 5 2008, 07:09 AM
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QUOTE (midnight @ Nov 5 2008, 07:02 AM)  "Best for this country and the rest of the world". That's just a slogan, Midnight. I guess we'll see what happens... 
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Nov 5 2008, 07:54 AM
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Well Done America for making the right choice!!
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Nov 5 2008, 08:01 AM
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Congratulations America
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Realy love to see that old ww2 we saved you mantra come back once again 
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Nov 5 2008, 10:49 AM
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Despite everything and all arguing we've been having here
I must say that I'm pleased to hear Obama is a new USA president. I truly hope that better days are coming for USA and the rest of the world.
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Nov 5 2008, 11:01 AM
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Being 50% black and 50% white he could call himself either but black has worked for him appearantly. Also when Clinton was elected people cried for change, that was to my understanding an even stronger need at this electing with the economy in a slope. With either Hilary or Obama "change" was inevitable, a woman or a black man. Talk about change!
I watched a documentary stating just that, and it was an objective one, where people said "I want a black president" and a young first time electors had everything clear in her mind saying "I'm voting for Obama! Why? I don't know, my sister told me to". So it's been a very populistic election and Obama had the upper hand for a couple of reasons. One mentioned above and the other is that he's far far far from being Bush (though they are related). People saw too much of a risk with McCain spite he avoided as much as possible to be compared with Bush. Didn't work out well. I saw someone earlier in this thread say that "People voted Obama because they studied the facts, liked what they learned and made a dessicion". I can't agree on that. There's a group that will always stick with their party and then there's electors that have no clue about what their personal politic stand is. Like here people can vote for the left wing one year because they speak of 6 hour work days and next election they vote for the right wing since they promise lower taxes. No clue what so ever of the fundamentals of the politics but they pick something they heard from friends or was fed by media that sounded good in their ears - mmmm 6 hours work, how nice, and a bag of chips, choose to belive it instead of investigating the facts and the rest of the party program and just go for it. Thinking for oneself is so craving and it's just easier to pick something someone else already decided for and act like a shadow. Obama, a good looking fit man not in his 70's. If he'd been a 70 year old slob with dreadlocks but with the same politic stand would anyone have voted for him? Looking fit and being black and having a huge smile earned quite a bit of plus on his account while McCain was presented with less flattering pictures in the media here and painted out as the bad guy. The picture presented counts! many people will not even care to bother but vote for the one looking most descent. So Obama should also recall to send a boquet of flowres to tv stations and newspapers because they helped, at least that's the picture I've got from media here in Sweden. Also in that documentary there was this lady that switch political party when the gas price was raised. She and her husband now were forced to go in the same car to work instead of separate cars like they used to. And they both worked in the same store, their own firm. I mean, come on, she'd probably switch religion if hinduism came with free shiny fruit drop caramels.  Which brings me to this. I'm not convinced Obama was the right choise, and when stating that I'm not sure McCain would have been either. Yet again, when will USA dare to take the lead in environmental questions? Noone would ever dare to keep environment as top priority in their campaign agenda since that would scare voters away, a complete show stopper. What a dead lock for world's health that is huh? What american president will dare to double the price of gas to force people to driver smaller cars and drive less? Who will dare to sign the Koyoto protocol that Bush declined because "China and India hasn't signed and they pollute more than us"? I do hope Obama will step up and make a few uncomfortable decisions that will probably be costly for the population and probably for his popularity but neccessary for the world. With his charm and ability to convince he could pull it off I think. If I could have seen Al Gore as president he'd be a teriffic representative for the health of the US and also the world and he'd presented change for the better already back in 2000 if things had worked well. Change, what's being requested now. So... Al Gore for president!!  But hoping Obama will do the unexpected and surprise at least me positively.
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Nov 5 2008, 11:07 AM
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QUOTE (MickeM @ Nov 5 2008, 11:01 AM) So... Al Gore for president!! But hoping Obama will do the unexpected and surprise at least me positively. Oh yeah,we almost forgot about good old Al!! 
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Nov 5 2008, 11:07 AM
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QUOTE (OrganisedConfusion @ Nov 5 2008, 11:02 AM) For those that say he got voted in for the colour of skin that is ridiculous as just as many that voted for him because he was black didn't vote for him because he was black. There are still many around the world and in America that still don't think the country is ready for a black president so it evens itself out. Explain to me right now why 97% of black americans voted for him. White americans voted fairly evenly. MickeM has hit the nail on the head. --------------------  |
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Nov 5 2008, 11:12 AM
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QUOTE (MickeM @ Nov 5 2008, 10:01 AM) So... Al Gore for president!! But hoping Obama will do the unexpected and surprise at least me positively. Al Gore would have been an awful president. Maybe not as bad as Bush but he is the biggest hypocrite alive. People were more understanding of what Obama could offer than you think. McCain was not even slightly the wrong choice. If America wanted their country to go completely down the pan then McCain would have been the right choice. McCain had no policies he just kept trying to take Obama down a peg or two with negative politics. Thankfully the people of America saw through his ridiculoud accusations. I'm pretty certain that most of the UK are very happy with this result. Maybe now we can finally get our army out of Iraq. QUOTE (Moon Boots @ Nov 5 2008, 10:07 AM) Explain to me right now why 97% of black americans voted for him. White americans voted fairly evenly. MickeM has hit the nail on the head. Black Americans get a vote my friend. Please stop being so racist. Basically you're saying if Black people didn't get a vote then he wouldn't have won. That is incredibly racist. Black people get the vote. They love Obama and what he stands for and therefore they chose him. That's the reason for it and he has won in loads of states with lower black populations so your opinion doesn't count. He won nearly 150 more points didn't he? That isn't a slight win. And it isn't all down to Black Americans. Plus he had to get Afro-Americans to vote which many were first time voters. To be able to get the turn out he did should be praised in itself. Isn't bringing America together what this is all about? Everybody deserves a voice and everybody a vote or do you not believe in freedom of choice? This post has been edited by OrganisedConfusion: Nov 5 2008, 11:14 AM -------------------- Gear Guitars:- Caparison Horus Snowcloud, Parker Nitefly M, Parker Nitefly SA, Gibson SG, Parker P10e, 40 Year Old Spanish Acoustic Amps:- Framus Ruby Riot 2x12" stack |
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Nov 5 2008, 11:20 AM
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QUOTE (mjsteps @ Nov 5 2008, 10:12 AM) . This is a great day for USA and other countries round the globe. Finally the right man has been voted into power. A man that can change how things are. Whether he will be able to manage it we will soon see but I believe he will. How will the election of Obama be great for the rest of the world? I see this idea or thought frequently but just do not understand. He is clueless on forgein policy and Joe Biden is even worse. So how could this "benefit" the rest of the world? Is the rest of the "world" is looking to this man for something? Help me to understand. If The rest of the world see it as America being able to choose a black president and being able to have freedom of choice although with only 2 major parties this isn't fully realised. Also McCain round the globe is seen like a Bush Mark 2.0. In Europe especially the number of people against the war in Iraq is huge. We hate the politicians who ignored us and a lot of us hate the armies involved. If they get withdrawn from Iraq then maybe we can respect them again where all respect has been lost. I think most European countries wanted Obama to win. And know it isn't to see a weak America it is to see an America that can actually get on with other countries rather than wanting to destroy them all. QUOTE (Moon Boots @ Nov 5 2008, 10:07 AM) Explain to me right now why 97% of black americans voted for him. White americans voted fairly evenly. MickeM has hit the nail on the head. Also it says that the Democrats won more of the white vote than Kerry did in 2004. The margin was decreased so that shows that many white voters switched to Democrat. -------------------- Gear Guitars:- Caparison Horus Snowcloud, Parker Nitefly M, Parker Nitefly SA, Gibson SG, Parker P10e, 40 Year Old Spanish Acoustic Amps:- Framus Ruby Riot 2x12" stack |
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