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post Nov 1 2008, 05:20 PM
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I really love Les Pauls and I went by the music store today for another reason, but then I just decided trying out Les Pauls. It comes up that stayed for 3 hours blink.gif in the store and I tested 8 models on increasing price order. Of course I plugged them on a Marshall ( JVM half stack) and tried throughout the channels.

Naturally, everyone has its own opinions and tastes, but maybe not everyone has the chance to do an extensive test like I did today, so I will share my impressions.

I started with Epiphone Les Paul Custom, since this a guitar I owned for 3 years, and I wanted to use it as a baseline.
It is good for the price you pay, but it is perhaps the heaviest guitar on earth (much more than double necks) and it is a little bit hard to play, IMO. Once you try other Les Pauls this one seems a little bit wrong, but if this is the only one within budget is a good go.

Gibson Les-Paul Studio - This one gives "the real" Les Paul sound. If you compare it to the epiphone one it is a large improvement, that definitely worths the money. However I found it a little bit difficult to play (I am not a pro like Gabriel to shred on this)

Gibson Les-Paul Standard Faded - Really vintage sound. "Black dog" and "Back in Black" sounded just right cool.gif . Easier to play than studio. Don't like the look though. dry.gif

Gibson Les Paul Slash Goldtop - I am big fan of Slash, so simply this was under my expectations. mad.gif You pay too much extra for the nice hat on the headstock. The one thing I liked is the distorted lead sound when you go up on the neck. I will attribute that to the Alnico Pro IIs... If anything good this is a limited edition, so it may gain value over time.

Gibson Les-Paul Traditional - This is one of those guitars one can say is a good deal for the money you pay. It's overall very good: tone, playability, look and price. smile.gif

Gibson Les-Paul Standard 60 - I really liked the neck. From all I tested this was the one the played the easiest. However there was "something a little wrong" huh.gif in the sound on my opinion. Perhaps its exactly the neck that makes the tone difference... Still really great guitar.

Gibson Les-Paul Standard 08
- This guitar is really a state of art in guitar craftsmanship. wub.gif I don't have any money for new guitars right now (specially at this price range), but this is the one I want to buy in the future. The sound is not exactly vintage, but it is amazing. Maybe people will be calling 08 LP sound "the one" vintage sound in 30 years. The neck is amazingly thick but somehow it plays very very nicely. I was impressed. One can really feel the difference of the burstbucker pro (compared to the regular burstbucker ). Some features are really great. The tuners are best quality I've ever seen, the jack locks the cable inside the guitar and the strap can be locked (Wow. No more bad cable connection on stage nor guitars dropping to the floor)
On Gibson's website it says "Improving a legend isn't easy but it's happened". Now I believe it. ph34r.gif

Gibson Les Paul Custom - This guitar is on a league of its own. Sound is beyond perfectness. Also has a thick neck and plays easily. This guitar is real something. The problem about this guitar is that the price is also on league of its own... dry.gif

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post Nov 1 2008, 05:28 PM
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Nice stuff ^^ I played les paul when i was choosing my epiphone... But I just thought they were too huge, clumsy and heavy.. htne I played the sg and I took off!!!!


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post Nov 1 2008, 08:08 PM
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i dont really like lespauls.
my personal taste on those budget is a jackson,or an ESP
i dont mind one free haha ^^

ty for the opnion
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Wow, nice job Gus! This is quit helpful!


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post Nov 1 2008, 10:35 PM
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I'm curious why U didn't like the Slash goldtop... Can you explain more about that? Was the neck good etc. I've been interested in that model....


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QUOTE (Xuestor @ Nov 1 2008, 10:35 PM) *
I'm curious why U didn't like the Slash goldtop... Can you explain more about that? Was the neck good etc. I've been interested in that model....


It is not a bad guitar at all. It's just that it's overpriced. I would say it's more or less on the level the standard faded. Still, it costs about 30% more (on the shop I looked).
With the money you put on it you can go with several options which in my opinion were way better: traditional, standard 60s neck, standard 50s neck (which I did not try) or with a little more the standard 2008.

But the overpricing is a general issue with most signature guitars, I guess... unsure.gif

Of course if you have the chance to try this model, do it. Don't feel discouraged based on my comments. People have different tastes.
One thing I really liked about the Slash goldtop is the sound, which is really close to Slash but to be fair I did not like the playability much.

QUOTE (Jesse @ Nov 1 2008, 05:28 PM) *
Nice stuff ^^ I played les paul when i was choosing my epiphone... But I just thought they were too huge, clumsy and heavy.. htne I played the sg and I took off!!!!

The epiphone LPs are indeed really heavy and clumsy. The Gibson are still a little heavy and clumsy but nothing compared to the epis. But I am also heavy and clumsy, so I don't mind tongue.gif . But that shows how much opinion differs. SG just don't feel right for me, hehe.

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I have a Les Paul Standard, Ebony with a 60's neck and I LOVE it. You will lose a bit of sustain and tone with the 60's neck so I've been told but to me it still sounds sweet. The 50's neck for me and my girly hands was just to hard to play. Now to be fair I really had no clue what I was doing on guitar when I bought my LP and I didn't have the finger and hand strength I do now, so it maybe a different story if I tried a 50's neck now. Either way you can't go wrong with a Les Paul in my opinion. A versatile instrument to say the least.
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QUOTE (rokchik @ Nov 1 2008, 11:08 PM) *
I have a Les Paul Standard, Ebony with a 60's neck and I LOVE it. You will lose a bit of sustain and tone with the 60's neck so I've been told but to me it still sounds sweet.

Yeah, you are right that it still sounds sweet. Without considering the custom (because of price) the 60s neck standard would be my second choice (after the 2008 standard)



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Hey Gus,

I have a Les Paul Standard with a faded finish and a 1960's neck. The first thing I did was to pull the burstbucker pickups out and put in the Doug Aldrich model Suhr humbuckers. Talk about a BIG difference in tone. It will definitely give you that killer rock/blues tone. I play through a Peavey 6505+ head and cabinet.

Give the faded finish another try. The nice thing about it is there is no finish on the neck. You can really fly on it compared to the other Les Paul models and the price is below $2K.

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Thanks for sharing your experiences with LPs, very useful information. I didn't know that 08 was such a great in quality.


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Nicely done Gus, im sure it was a blast to test them, i did the same with a bunch of different Fenders the other day... was amazing how different they all sounded smile.gif


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post Nov 2 2008, 04:29 PM
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the 08 models doesn't have anything to do with the VOS models do they? Cause I've seen a bunch of models labeled Standard 08 VOS on ebay. I'm sceptical about that though....


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QUOTE (Gus @ Nov 1 2008, 05:20 PM) *
Gibson Les Paul Custom - This guitar is on a league of its own. Sound is beyond perfectness. Also has a thick neck and plays easily. This guitar is real something. The problem about this guitar is that the price is also on league of its own... dry.gif


I agree.. I *LOVE* my custom.. i love it, i love it, i love it.. wink.gif
The standard is also nice, but i really like the neck on my custom..
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Thanks Gus for sharing this with us.


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I really liked this review... a Slash sig Lp still hasn't been in may lap before... I wish I had the opportunity to switch between all these wonderful models in ONE single store.

But unfortunately i don't dry.gif

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QUOTE (Xuestor @ Nov 2 2008, 04:29 PM) *
the 08 models doesn't have anything to do with the VOS models do they? Cause I've seen a bunch of models labeled Standard 08 VOS on ebay. I'm sceptical about that though....

Not really, I just learned that VOS means Vintage Original Specs.

Standard 2008 is actually about exactly the opposite: redesigned specs, even though they did keep and even improved all the good things that made Les Paul a legend (thick sound, look, etc). Actually, after testing this guitar I've been reading more about it on the internet, and I may make a complete review only about it very soon.

There is probably always going to be space for vintage specs Gibsons and Fenders.
But I understand Standard 2008 as Gibson's movement to counter attack other brands that don't have a vintage inheritage (Let's say PRS, ESP, Ibanez). I'd say it made exactly the right movement. This guitar blew my mind.

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Hm, I always though VOS meant vintage old stock. Basically if you bought something VOS it was basically brand new but it was old stock that was found in a warehouse some place. I know tubes are advertised all the time as VOS. Anyone else know more about this concept?
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QUOTE (fatb0t @ Nov 3 2008, 02:03 PM) *
Hm, I always though VOS meant vintage old stock. Basically if you bought something VOS it was basically brand new but it was old stock that was found in a warehouse some place. I know tubes are advertised all the time as VOS. Anyone else know more about this concept?

V.O.S. is Vintage Original Specifications.. A guitar made from the original specifications from back when they were first made.. ie.. my 2008 Custom Les Paul 1958 is made with the same specs as the original back in 1958.

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Cool info there Gus, just the other day I was checking out the new featurres on Standard 08 LPs, and they seem to b amazing, though I believe their price to be even bigger than previous LP Standard models. I'll try one as soon as one arrives in my local shop!


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I like the Les Paul sound, lately I've been using an altered Epiphone Les Paul for recording rhythm guitars, nice heavy fat sound, and lots of sustain for leads too.

But strats are so much more comfortable for me, the contour for the arm, and in the back of the guitar make it feel great. That is why I am working on my own guitar now, trying to find the perfect balance.


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