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kaznie_NL
post Nov 8 2008, 10:55 AM
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Hey Guys,

I'm currently busy with a new project. On the internet I bought a "Kit" including all parts to build my very own "Muff Fuzz" which is going to be ( I hope tongue.gif ) an effect similar to the Electro Harmonix Muff Fuzz.

I've already done some work on the pc board... It's tiny!!!! I also have a little question. The plate excists out of rows of holes if anyone knows what I mean tongue.gif . is it bad to let the solder get on two rows? I also think I don't have the most ideal solderthing... it's more then 100V, aren't there solderers from 12V and so?

Pictures coming later!


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post Nov 8 2008, 12:12 PM
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cool biggrin.gif Ik weet daar niks van:(Vet project!


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post Nov 8 2008, 12:23 PM
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Sorry, I can't help you with that problem, but i'm really waiting for those pics to see how you progress. smile.gif cool.gif


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post Nov 8 2008, 01:26 PM
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That's awesome smile.gif

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QUOTE (kaznie_NL @ Nov 8 2008, 10:55 AM) *
Hey Guys,

I'm currently busy with a new project. On the internet I bought a "Kit" including all parts to build my very own "Muff Fuzz" which is going to be ( I hope tongue.gif ) an effect similar to the Electro Harmonix Muff Fuzz.

I've already done some work on the pc board... It's tiny!!!! I also have a little question. The plate excists out of rows of holes if anyone knows what I mean tongue.gif . is it bad to let the solder get on two rows? I also think I don't have the most ideal solderthing... it's more then 100V, aren't there solderers from 12V and so?

Pictures coming later!


Well.. it depends on whether or not these "rows" are connected before the soldering.. look under the PCB, and follow the lines.. if they are on the same line.. no problems.. if they are NOT on the same line.. then they are not supposed to touch eachother so YES.. this is BAD!

Keep in mind that you solder the components onto the PCB, and the solder itself will act as a connection between the component and the PCB.. if you solder two rows that are not supposed to be together you *could* have a shortcurcuit, and in worst case you "kill" some of your components.. best case is that it's simply not working or the sound is a lot different than expected..

I've just completed a kit myself, and i will post something about it as soon as possible, but bottom line.. ONLY solder where the solder is supposed to be.. wink.gif if you still make a mistake you can get some "remove-solder-tape-thingy" or a solder-pump..

the soldering iron is usually mentioned in watts.. so i guess you are talking about watts?? if so, 100w is VERY VERY MUCH, and this could be the reason it is so difficult.. its very hard to control 100w iron.. i have used a 15w to finish mine..

Good luck..
If you have any questions, dont hesitate to ask me.. smile.gif

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post Nov 8 2008, 02:17 PM
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I really don't have any experience with soldering
but I'm anxious to see the pictures! smile.gif


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post Nov 9 2008, 12:57 AM
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You mean soldering iron that runs on 12V?? I don't think there is one Kaz. You need a soldering pencil for more precise work. I would stay away from soldering guns when doing that kind of work.


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post Nov 9 2008, 10:16 AM
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I have a solder iron tongue.gif

And about the solder in the right lanes, I already have a nice answer for that tongue.gif don't let the solder get out of it's lane tongue.gif


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post Nov 10 2008, 11:30 AM
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Nice project you got there Kaznie!! I don't have any soldering experience or "do it yourself" electronics one smile.gif Looking forward to some pictures and the end product and sound clips smile.gif Just take your work slowly don't rush it...Its a precise job smile.gif


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post Nov 14 2008, 04:43 PM
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It's not really working, probably some beginners mistakes. I'm a bit frustrated, so I'm letting it to rest for some days now tongue.gif


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post Nov 15 2008, 09:00 AM
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Awesome! I've been building some custom ones by hand in the past month or so. Starting with fuzz since the circuits are so simple. Those kits are way overpriced and if you buy the parts separately and the cases from guitar pedal parts, you can get away with a nice pedal for around 15$ USD.

Right now the circuit is prototyped on a breadboard but tomorrow I was planning on doing the wire wrapping and setting it in the case. Will upload pics when done.


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post Nov 15 2008, 01:10 PM
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How's the building going Kaz, can we see some pics of the project in action? smile.gif


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post Nov 18 2008, 12:13 PM
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QUOTE (kaznie_NL @ Nov 8 2008, 10:55 AM) *
Hey Guys,

I'm currently busy with a new project. On the internet I bought a "Kit" including all parts to build my very own "Muff Fuzz" which is going to be ( I hope tongue.gif ) an effect similar to the Electro Harmonix Muff Fuzz.

I've already done some work on the pc board... It's tiny!!!! I also have a little question. The plate excists out of rows of holes if anyone knows what I mean tongue.gif . is it bad to let the solder get on two rows? I also think I don't have the most ideal solderthing... it's more then 100V, aren't there solderers from 12V and so?

Pictures coming later!


Soldering is all about the size of the soldering bolt + the heat of it.
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post Nov 18 2008, 04:08 PM
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QUOTE (kjutte @ Nov 18 2008, 12:13 PM) *
Soldering is all about the size of the soldering bolt + the heat of it.
The voltage matters not.

I was wrong, meant Wattage!

And pictures... here they are. It's not really working... althought the LED is tongue.gif just to show it's quit hard:

PICTURE 1: http://img21.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=..._122_1020lo.JPG
PICTURE 2: http://img223.imagevenue.com/img.php?image...3_122_452lo.JPG
PICTURE 3: http://img174.imagevenue.com/img.php?image..._122_1032lo.JPG

And ow, the hand is my mom's tongue.gif


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post Nov 19 2008, 12:45 AM
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hey Kaz, I didn't know you were building a spider mate mellow.gif


















Just kidding, nice to see that you can solder that stuff, I could never do that smile.gif


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post Nov 21 2008, 11:08 AM
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i honestly think you find it so difficult because of the high wattage of your soldering iron..

But since it is not working at the moment, i would suggest that you go through all your connections with a multimeter.. with this multimeter you test everything, and you should be able to find the places that should be connected but aren't, and the places where there IS a connection but there shouldn't be..

What you specifically do is find a starting point.. could be the battery (btw.. remove the battery).. begin with the power (+) usually the red wire.. follow the wire to the end (looks like the AC connector).. Is there connection?

from the AC follow the other red wire to your PCB.. just test every connection on the board.. also test power (+) vs. ground (-), there should be no connection whatsoever here..

and one last thing.. i cannot see if you use any capacitors, but some of these has to be put in the correct way (there are plus and minus on some of these).. just like LEDs have to be put in the correct way.. Check to see if you did it right.

and one last thing.. from what i can see the first hole in your PCB (in any line) will be connected with the last hole.. which means you can have all your minus go on one row or line.. but be careful with the plus.. the components have to come in a "special" order, and i am not really sure they will do that if you just put them all on one line or row.. and you cannot really put one component on one line.. so you may have to "cut" the line on the PCB..

I hope you understand what i am trying to communicate.. especially the last part.. wink.gif
if you have too many problems with the PCB, you could always ditch it and ONLY use wires.. could even be easier in this case, but it really depends on how many components you have on your PCB

Good luck

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post Nov 21 2008, 12:41 PM
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QUOTE (kaznie_NL @ Nov 18 2008, 04:08 PM) *
I was wrong, meant Wattage!

And pictures... here they are. It's not really working... althought the LED is tongue.gif just to show it's quit hard:

PICTURE 1: http://img21.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=..._122_1020lo.JPG
PICTURE 2: http://img223.imagevenue.com/img.php?image...3_122_452lo.JPG
PICTURE 3: http://img174.imagevenue.com/img.php?image..._122_1032lo.JPG

And ow, the hand is my mom's tongue.gif


Ouch, looks like you've killed that project tongue.gif
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QUOTE (kaznie_NL @ Nov 8 2008, 10:55 AM) *
I don't have the most ideal solderthing... it's more then 100V, aren't there solderers from 12V and so?

For this job you should use one max 20-25W, with a pointy tip.

I saw it wasn't working and the risk of using a 100W here is that you might have destroyed components by over heating them sad.gif
If you used a lower wattage one there might be one of the other reasons Zion mentioned, some components are one-way passage for the current and the striping show the direction.


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post Nov 21 2008, 02:49 PM
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QUOTE (MickeM @ Nov 21 2008, 01:49 PM) *
For this job you should use one max 20-25W, with a pointy tip.

I saw it wasn't working and the risk of using a 100W here is that you might have destroyed components by over heating them sad.gif
If you used a lower wattage one there might be one of the other reasons Zion mentioned, some components are one-way passage for the current and the striping show the direction.


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I did some soldering, but just tiny bits tongue.gif ATM I have a better solder iron 30W. Does anyone know why the solder always get's on my solder tip and not on the copper??


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