2 Pages V  < 1 2  
Reply to this topicStart new topic
> New Player Testing, Some have reported problems with the new GMC player
David Wallimann
post Nov 18 2008, 06:35 PM
Post #21


Instructor
*

Group: Members
Posts: 4.565
Joined: 29-March 07
From: Fort Collins, CO
Member No.: 1.439



I'm running a single core 1.8Ghz with Firefox3...
Old version plays OK when progress bar fully loaded, although there still is a bit of chopped up sound everyonce and a while. If I scroll down the pag while video plays, it gets very choppy..

New version is much better, but yeah, quality is not great...



--------------------
www.youtube.com/Wallimann
www.davidwallimann.com
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
valentino
post Nov 18 2008, 07:14 PM
Post #22


GMC:er
*

Group: Members
Posts: 104
Joined: 24-September 08
From: Madrid, Spain
Member No.: 5.951



Both videos works fine for me. The old one works ok after the buffering is finished because the buffering is slower than playback as you can figure smile.gif

Using Windows XP Internet Explorer Intel Core2 Duo 3,0 GHz - 3GB RAM - ADSL 6Mb


--------------------
If somebody finds a slice of finger call me please, surely is mine

Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
fkalich
post Nov 18 2008, 07:29 PM
Post #23


GMC:er
*

Group: Members
Posts: 2.728
Joined: 12-February 07
From: People's Republic of Lawrence Kansas
Member No.: 1.189



QUOTE (David Wallimann @ Nov 18 2008, 12:35 PM) *
I'm running a single core 1.8Ghz with Firefox3...
Old version plays OK when progress bar fully loaded, although there still is a bit of chopped up sound everyonce and a while. If I scroll down the pag while video plays, it gets very choppy..

New version is much better, but yeah, quality is not great...


Keep in mind David, you are not the average GMC user. What may matter to you (high resolution) is not as important as what may matter to most people (fast speed in loading a lesson). I can see where the fingers are just fine in the lower resolution videos, even if it is not as pretty. In learning a lesson I may revisit sections many times, and it might just be to look at one thing I am not sure about. If there is a delay every time that I want to do that, that is an impediment. This was a similar discussion to the talking head in some of Muris' videos. Although more significant, as the lag times are longer here, at least on this side of the Atlantic. Guys that have been playing over a decade and who are professional are not the average GMC user, and their priorities will reflect such.

edit: I should listen to my own pontificating. Guys who are just starting, or maybe in the first year, can't see where the fingers are as well. After awhile you have seen all the fingerings, so you recognize it with a glance. But high resolution is important for guys early on, as they can't see the fingers as well, or can't be as sure of where there are.

I think they should have options of either high or low resolution videos. This is not an uncommon practice as we know.

This post has been edited by fkalich: Nov 18 2008, 07:41 PM
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Trond Vold
post Nov 18 2008, 08:26 PM
Post #24


Instructor
Group Icon

Group: GMC Instructor
Posts: 3.497
Joined: 16-February 08
From: Norge!
Member No.: 4.261



New player loads alot faster! .. But the volum-slider doesnt work.. smile.gif


--------------------
Guitars: Schecter Stiletto Classic, Jackson SLSMG, Ibanez RG-380 Japan, Gibson Les Paul Studio

Amp: Marshall JMP-1 -> Rocktron Velocity 100 -> Marshall JCM-900 Lead 4x12

FX and stomps: T.C Electronics G-Sharp, Korg SDD-1200, Emma Transmorgrifier, BYOC Tribooster, GGG Green Ringer, Dinosaur Overdrive, Voodoo Lab SuperFuzz, Sovtek Bassballs, Line6 Tap Tremolo, EHX Screaming Bird.


___________________________________________________
My Lessons!

My Instructor Board!

My Myspace!
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Moon Boots
post Nov 18 2008, 10:01 PM
Post #25


GMC:er
*

Group: Members
Posts: 209
Joined: 19-December 07
From: London
Member No.: 3.548



I've got a good connection so all I'm interested in is a high resolution. The lite version isn't all that great quality wise really.


--------------------
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Andrew Cockburn
post Nov 18 2008, 10:39 PM
Post #26


Moderation Policy Director
Group Icon

Group: GMC Instructor
Posts: 10.459
Joined: 6-February 07
From: CT, USA
Member No.: 1.167



Dual Core Celeron 1.6 laptop

30mb Connection

USA

Original loads in about a minute - 0 too slow to stream, plays perfectly when loaded however

Lite version streams in about 5s and plays fine - we know about the tradeoff in quality here already.

The speed in the link between Holland and the US would seem to be significant as FKalich suggests - my link is faster than most, but defendant upon the weakest link in the chain, so performs worse than slower links in Europe.

1. There are obviously 2 factors here - the effective bandwidth between the consumer and the server, which seems to be worse when a crossing of the atlantic is onvolved

2. The Spec and/or configuration of the PC, as evidenced by the fact that some people can;t play without chopiness even with the video fully buffered.

It looks like the first is pretty much addressed by the lighter video, and the second improved by the lighter video. There are still a few people that get no relief even with the ligh video - I am guessing it has to do with the age and spec of the graphics card more so than the absolute power of the PC.


--------------------
Check out my Instructor profile
Live long and prosper ...

My Stuff:

Electric Guitars : Ibanez Jem7v, Line6 Variax 700, Fender Plus Strat with 57/62 Pickups, Line6 Variax 705 Bass
Acoustic Guitars : Taylor 816ce, Martin D-15, Line6 Variax Acoustic 300 Nylon
Effects : Line6 Helix, Keeley Modded Boss DS1, Keeley Modded Boss BD2, Keeley 4 knob compressor, Keeley OxBlood
Amps : Epiphone Valve Jnr & Head, Cockburn A.C.1, Cockburn A.C.2, Blackstar Club 50 Head & 4x12 Cab
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Canis
post Nov 18 2008, 11:11 PM
Post #27


Learning Rock Star
Group Icon

Group: GMC Wiki:er
Posts: 3.319
Joined: 22-October 07
From: Molde, Norway
Member No.: 3.108



2,70 GHz Dual Core
4GB Ram
Windows Vista Home Premium
21MB Broadband connection

And the old player was horribly slow... Which is weird, since it wasn't like that a few days ago when I first saw Ivan's lesson...

The new player is great, though. A little less detailed picture, but that's not that important to me, to be honest smile.gif Only the bigger picture makes it totally worth it.


Edit: I sent the links to a friend of mine, who sits on a poor little Acer One laptop on extremely slow internet, and the new lesson worked perfect with him. He said he never experienced a video loading that fast =)

This post has been edited by Canis: Nov 18 2008, 11:15 PM


--------------------
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Ivan Milenkovic
post Nov 19 2008, 12:33 AM
Post #28


Instructor
Group Icon

Group: GMC Instructor
Posts: 25.396
Joined: 20-November 07
From: Belgrade, Serbia
Member No.: 3.341



I apologize to everyone because of the bulky old videos! smile.gif


--------------------
- Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE
- Check out my GMC Profile and Lessons
- (Please subscribe to my) YouTube Official Channel
- Let's be connected through ! Facebook! :)
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Kristofer Dahl
post Nov 19 2008, 09:32 AM
Post #29


GMC Founder & Rocker
Group Icon

Group: GMC Instructor
Posts: 15.184
Joined: 15-August 05
From: Stockholm, Sweden
Member No.: 2



Thanks a lot for the valuable feedback - it looks like we have found a compromise which will work for almost everyone. All future "new-player" lessons will follow the specifications of the "new lighter version" in this test.

I am especially happy to see that Ramiro could stream this video on a 1 mbit/s connection from Argentina - I think that is evidence of a pretty compatible solution.

In the future we will strive to improve all our systems of course - until then the ~1200 lessons we have got in the old dimensions will remain (which should keep anyone busy for a long time).

Thanks again for your patience and understanding! smile.gif


--------------------
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post

2 Pages V  < 1 2
Reply to this topicStart new topic
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 


RSS Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 30th May 2017 - 04:46 AM