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post Nov 18 2008, 09:34 PM
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I read this on Youtube, about PG's song, technical difficulties.



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Here's something you might not have known. Paul Gilbert wrote the song Viking Kong in the key of A minor so that Yngwie Malmsteen could be a guest soloist on the song. Malmsteen is actually incapable of improvising over anything unless it's in the key of A minor, and as we all know, that in itself can get pretty repetitive. Obviously, if you ever heard the song Viking Kong, it's all Paul. Yngwie didn't own up to the offer, and has denied ever being involved with Paul other than for a photoshoot.




I come to think of it, I have an instructionvideo that he talks about "E phrygian", which definitely is the 5th scale degree of A Aeolian. Pretty funny, huh?

His brain can only think of A minor patterns, now that's what I call lazy biggrin.gif

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post Nov 18 2008, 09:36 PM
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post Nov 18 2008, 09:37 PM
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QUOTE (superize @ Nov 18 2008, 09:36 PM) *
But he creates great music with it


That's not the point at all...
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post Nov 18 2008, 09:45 PM
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QUOTE (kjutte @ Nov 18 2008, 09:34 PM) *
Malmsteen is actually incapable of improvising over anything unless it's in the key of A minor...


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Can that be true? I'm astonished.

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post Nov 18 2008, 09:47 PM
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QUOTE (Fran @ Nov 18 2008, 09:45 PM) *
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Can that be true? I'm astonished.

Edit: Quoting is hard.


Yeah, that's why I posted the Ephrygian exmaple, as proof smile.gif
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post Nov 18 2008, 10:06 PM
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Yeah, that's of course true, because someone posted it in the youtube comments...


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Yngwie rocks! smile.gif Pretty funny though.


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post Nov 18 2008, 10:17 PM
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QUOTE (Capt.Z @ Nov 18 2008, 10:15 PM) *
Yngwie rocks! smile.gif Pretty funny though.


Yeah I love his work too, in portions at the time. smile.gif
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post Nov 18 2008, 10:26 PM
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QUOTE (kjutte @ Nov 18 2008, 03:34 PM) *
I read this on Youtube, about PG's song, technical difficulties.



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Here's something you might not have known. Paul Gilbert wrote the song Viking Kong in the key of A minor so that Yngwie Malmsteen could be a guest soloist on the song. Malmsteen is actually incapable of improvising over anything unless it's in the key of A minor, and as we all know, that in itself can get pretty repetitive. Obviously, if you ever heard the song Viking Kong, it's all Paul. Yngwie didn't own up to the offer, and has denied ever being involved with Paul other than for a photoshoot.




I come to think of it, I have an instructionvideo that he talks about "E phrygian", which definitely is the 5th scale degree of A Aeolian. Pretty funny, huh?

His brain can only think of A minor patterns, now that's what I call lazy biggrin.gif



Hahaha!
I looove it!
Great post man. Yngwie cracks me up, seriously! :-)


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post Nov 18 2008, 10:29 PM
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QUOTE (David Wallimann @ Nov 18 2008, 10:26 PM) *
Hahaha!
I looove it!
Great post man. Yngwie cracks me up, seriously! :-)


I thought so too biggrin.gif You're welcome smile.gif
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post Nov 18 2008, 11:01 PM
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I don't believe Malmsteen doesn't know any other key except A minor, that doesn't make sense. smile.gif

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post Nov 18 2008, 11:09 PM
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QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Nov 18 2008, 11:01 PM) *
I don't believe Malmsteen doesn't know any other key except A minor, that doesn't make sense. smile.gif


It means he's having trouble moving the boxes when improvsing. He hasn't bothered to memorize them, that's why I said lazy.
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post Nov 19 2008, 12:07 AM
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that is so dam funny..lmao, don,t get me wrong i still love alot of yngwie,s tunes but the neo-classical stuff has been done to death...i think emir hot is the new hero on the block, cause i think he has a much better style and more substance, enough with the neo-bull crap, i want to hear a new style of playing, and i think we have a lot of fresh idea,s at guitarmasterclass, so good work everybody!!!!!!
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When Yngwie needs to improvise in C, he tunes his guitar a step and a half higher...
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post Nov 19 2008, 07:52 AM
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QUOTE (David Wallimann @ Nov 19 2008, 01:08 AM) *
When Yngwie needs to improvise in C, he tunes his guitar a step and a half higher...
Mouahaha!!!


Hahaha!


Yngwie is still the king of his genre! Even if it is all in A minor!
All though i'm checking through some yngwie tabs i have I do see a C minor lick here.
But yeah pretty much all the same key from what i'm seeing.
He does use Harmonic minor to! But A...hahaha well actually Ab cause he does tune down a semi tone.

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that is so dam funny..lmao, don,t get me wrong i still love alot of yngwie,s tunes but the neo-classical stuff has been done to death...i think emir hot is the new hero on the block, cause i think he has a much better style and more substance, enough with the neo-bull crap, i want to hear a new style of playing, and i think we have a lot of fresh idea,s at guitarmasterclass, so good work everybody!!!!!!


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post Nov 19 2008, 08:32 AM
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I played about 50 Yngwie's songs in full. I can tell you that he can improvise in any possible key on the guitar. The only repetitive thing is the scales and lick he uses. He's got like 10 or 15 of them and that's all but speaking about the key Yngwie knows it all. He tunes his guitar half step down but that's for a totally differnt reason.


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QUOTE (Emir Hot @ Nov 19 2008, 09:32 AM) *
I played about 50 Yngwie's songs in full. I can tell you that he can improvise in any possible key on the guitar. The only repetitive thing is the scales and lick he uses. He's got like 10 or 15 of them and that's all but speaking about the key Yngwie knows it all. He tunes his guitar half step down but that's for a totally differnt reason.


Wow Emir 50 full Yngwie tracks, that's crazy!

Thanks for clearing that up:) I only got a book with some licks not songs. The licks (mostly) just happened to be in that key.
See what you're saying about the same licks/sequences though.


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QUOTE (Ian Bushell @ Nov 19 2008, 07:40 AM) *
Wow Emir 50 full Yngwie tracks, that's crazy!

Thanks for clearing that up:) I only got a book with some licks not songs. The licks (mostly) just happened to be in that key.
See what you're saying about the same licks/sequences though.


It is true his licks are mostly in E or A harmonic minor and Phrygian dominant or diminished over a 5th dominant chord. Take the first album for example and analyse keys in some tracks. In "Far Beyond The Sun" there are 7 different keys but still true that the licks are almost the same.


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QUOTE (Emir Hot @ Nov 19 2008, 09:54 AM) *
It is true his licks are mostly in E or A harmonic minor and Phrygian dominant or diminished over a 5th dominant chord. Take the first album for example and analyse keys in some tracks. In "Far Beyond The Sun" there are 7 different keys but still true that the licks are almost the same.

I'll definately check that out! I'll be at the music store today i'm sure they have the book for that album.


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I'm shocked to learn that a random comment on youtube showed to be false ohmy.gif Where's the world headed to wink.gif


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