Counting Quarter Note Triplets
 Nov 20 2008, 08:11 PM Post #1 GMC:er Group: Members Posts: 346 Joined: 30-October 06 From: Southern California Member No.: 901 I have been working on Timings and Triplets, as well as working on alternate picking sppeds - Working on Muris' Timing lesson. And I can handle the 8th note and 16th note triplets okay (Mainly because of Kris Metronome lesson), but the Quarter Note Triplets are throwing me off - What's the best way to count these since the notes don't fall evenly on the beats(6notes over a 4 beat bar), and on 16th note triplets is there another way to count instead of :1 2 3 4 5 6 1 2 3 4 5 6 1 2 3 4 5 6 1 2 3 4 5 6 as Kris does as this can get difficult for changes within the measure since there's no differentiation between the beats( 1 2 3 4) or is this how all of you do it.Thanks -------------------- "Three Chords & The Truth . . ."
 Nov 20 2008, 08:46 PM Post #2 Instructor Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 7.201 Joined: 14-July 08 From: London UK Member No.: 5.490 QUOTE (Guitar1969 @ Nov 20 2008, 07:11 PM) I have been working on Timings and Triplets, as well as working on alternate picking sppeds - Working on Muris' Timing lesson. And I can handle the 8th note and 16th note triplets okay (Mainly because of Kris Metronome lesson), but the Quarter Note Triplets are throwing me off - What's the best way to count these since the notes don't fall evenly on the beats(6notes over a 4 beat bar), and on 16th note triplets is there another way to count instead of :1 2 3 4 5 6 1 2 3 4 5 6 1 2 3 4 5 6 1 2 3 4 5 6 as Kris does as this can get difficult for changes within the measure since there's no differentiation between the beats( 1 2 3 4) or is this how all of you do it.ThanksImagine these are 8 16th notes in half a 4/4 barS S S S S S S SThe next one shows where the quarter triplet comes (see accent)`< < < S S S S S S S S`Pick just those 3 accents and you played a quatret triplet in half a 4/4 barI edited this post 3 times. First I made mistake twice and second I didn't know how to type tab in the forum This post has been edited by Emir Hot: Nov 20 2008, 09:40 PM -------------------- Check out my Instructor profilewww.emirhot.comwww.myspace.com/emirhotguitarwww.myspace.com/sevdahmetal
 Nov 20 2008, 09:27 PM Post #3 Instructor Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 1.359 Joined: 28-July 08 From: Miami FL Member No.: 5.593 I am confused, Emir's explanation seems to be for a dotted quarter note (the duration of 3 8th notes). I might be mistaken because theory is something I don't focus on a lot, but I thing a quarter note triplet duration should be twice the duration of an 8th note triplet. So you should fit 3 notes equally spaced in a half note time duration. Am I right or wrong?So a 4/4 bar should have 12 eight note triplets, then it should have 6 quarter note triplets.At slow speed it becomes very hard, but at faster speeds, all I do is tap with my foot every half note, I pretend that that is my click, and play triplets between. -------------------- Check out my Video LessonsVisit my Instructor BoardVisit MySpace
 Nov 20 2008, 09:50 PM Post #4 Instructor Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 7.201 Joined: 14-July 08 From: London UK Member No.: 5.490 Looks like you were typing while I was editing the post I noticed I made mistake and I fixed it.it is actually very difficult to show it like this. This tab text is not accurate. I will make a picture with notes and post it.-----------------------ok againtop row is 2 quarter triplets and botom row is 4 eight triplets. All that in one 4/4 bar`1 2 3 1 2 3 1 2 3 1 2 3 1 2 3 1 2 3` This post has been edited by Emir Hot: Nov 20 2008, 10:19 PM -------------------- Check out my Instructor profilewww.emirhot.comwww.myspace.com/emirhotguitarwww.myspace.com/sevdahmetal
 Nov 20 2008, 10:31 PM Post #5 Instructor Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 2.279 Joined: 4-August 08 From: Argentina, Buenos Aires Member No.: 5.625 The better way to think a triplet is to visualize a measure where the counting figure is the 8th note. All irregular values like triplets or sextuplets are taken from there as when you are in a compound measure and you have four 8th notes and they are marked as irregular. This kind of irregular values (3 and 6 in a simple measure and 2, 4 and 8 in a compound measure) are nothing else than an exchange. So now that I've explained that if you have to know where the quarter triplet is you have to think (if you are in a 4/4 measure) in a 12/8 measure. So now imagine that you have tied two 8th notes and so on.I leave you a guitar pro file to clarify.Play it and listen, then check out the theory.I hope it was helpful. Attached File(s)  Triplets.gp5 ( 1.65K ) Number of downloads: 256   -------------------- Check out my Instructor Profile and BoardLIVE VIDEO CHATS EVERY MONDAY AROUND 22PM (GMC HOUR)
 Nov 20 2008, 11:50 PM Post #6 Instructor Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 25.396 Joined: 20-November 07 From: Belgrade, Serbia Member No.: 3.341 The way I count a 16 triplet in one beat is like this:ta ta ta - ta ta taso for a whole bar with 4 beats I count:ta ta ta - ta ta ta ta ta ta - ta ta ta ta ta ta - ta ta tata ta ta - ta ta ta -------------------- - Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE- Check out my GMC Profile and Lessons- (Please subscribe to my) YouTube Official Channel- Let's be connected through ! Facebook! :)
 Nov 21 2008, 12:52 AM Post #7 Instructor Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 15.459 Joined: 22-June 07 From: Sarajevo,Bosnia Member No.: 2.159 Those triplets are not hard at all if you're playing alone.But if there's metronome and it counts 8ths per exampleor even worse,you have a drummer who plays everything but triplets,then it really might get tricky. Good idea is to take a word or phrase that you can split into 3 parts,they say it and play over it.Per example HERE I GO.Should be like this.1 2 3 1 2 3 HERE I GO HERE I GO Each Here I Go should be played over half of the 4/4 bar,so you have 2 of them over one bar,try it. -------------------- YoutubeMySpaceWebsiteAlbum "Let It Out" on iTunes and CD Baby Check out my video lessons and instructor board!The Pianist tune is progress,check it out!"ok.. it is great.. :Phave you myspace? Can i to personalize this for you guy?"
 Nov 21 2008, 03:17 AM Post #8 Instructor Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 8.109 Joined: 13-September 08 From: Nis, Serbia Member No.: 5.892 I have very simple advice. I won't give you all the theory behind counting - Emir already did that. Instead I will give A SONG you can associate quarter note triplets with! This was very emotional song for me when I was 17-18 but I won't get into more details. Listen to the intro riff. Intervals of 4ths descending going down by diatonic 2nds.Enjoy -------------------- My Video Lessons
 Nov 21 2008, 01:52 PM Post #9 Learning Roadie Group: Members Posts: 468 Joined: 26-November 07 From: Marple Member No.: 3.381 QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Nov 20 2008, 11:52 PM) Those triplets are not hard at all if you're playing alone.But if there's metronome and it counts 8ths per exampleor even worse,you have a drummer who plays everything but triplets,then it really might get tricky. Good idea is to take a word or phrase that you can split into 3 parts,they say it and play over it.Per example HERE I GO.Should be like this.1 2 3 1 2 3 HERE I GO HERE I GO Each Here I Go should be played over half of the 4/4 bar,so you have 2 of them over one bar,try it. +1 on saying a phrase. I was told, (by a drummer!) to say E - VEN- LY to count triplets to get the 'feel' of triplets in 4/4 time. -------------------- "I am playing all the right notes, but not necessarily in the right order." Eric Morecambe
 Sep 16 2009, 10:53 AM Post #10 GMC:er Group: Members Posts: 641 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Germany Member No.: 3.437 Check out first lesson and gp5 of: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Slow_B...n_A_Minor/#last Oh I see the last post is almost 2 years old..anyway useful... This post has been edited by Nighthawk1: Sep 16 2009, 10:54 AM

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