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Pedja Simovic
post Nov 26 2008, 02:20 AM
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Hi guys. Welcome to final mix. Before getting to your notes I would like to thank everybody for participating in my first collaboration. I am pretty surprised by various levels of players at GMC. Some of you composed while others improvised but still there are things that sounded great! However, this doesn’t mean that you won’t get some critique from me smile.gif I would like you to take each critique as a good thing and as means to improve and work on your musical voice even more in future. By any means I have no intention to discourage any of you – after all we all have different levels and great thing about music is that learning process never stops!
One thing worth mentioning is please let me know if your take sounds good with Final mix. You can send me private message about that. I didn’t mean to raise or lower any one of you guys nor to synch you bad with backing so sincere apologies in advance if that happened with your take.
Having said all of this, I would like to get to the notes. I have organized takes in alphabetical order so feel free to read about everything or just scroll down and find your notes wink.gif



First up is Alex Levis ( 0:00 – 0:34)



Sound – Very nice distortion. It brings out the notes without too much gain.
Intro – I like slide along with fast rhythmic part. It worked very effectively. One thing I didn't like is when you bended the note it sounded out of pitch(0:04 -0:05) - other than that great intro.
Phrasing/time feel/rhythm- Very good time feel and nice connected phrases. I like it !
Development/melodic shapes – Definitely very good work with this one. It sounds like you were telling a story which I like a lot about solos.
Technique- Bending needs work Alex. Other than bending your legato is strong along with hammer on and pull offs. Good job with doing multiple guitar parts even though I felt that wasn't really needed in your solo!
Outro/ending- Great job slowing down and doing opposite from the intro. Good job ending on the root of the chord.

If you would like more detailed comments regarding specific parts send me PM.
Overall this is very good solo , it has some nice development, good strong phrases just needs work on Bending and fast shredding part.
Thank you Alex. smile.gif


botoxfox (0:34 - 1:06)


Sound – The distortion has a lot of gain hence the notes don't come out clearly as they should. I would definitely try to work on the sound and "clean" it up with some different distortion perhaps.
Intro – Cool intro, I like the bend in the very beginning as well as long notes you rest on.
Phrasing/time feel/rhythm- Overall good work with this area however in the intro part phrasing sounds a bit off. As the solo went on phrasing got stronger which is great.
Development/melodic shapes – You did great job with this one! Your melodic shapes sound great together. Its like question answer type of thing and you did it very well. Doing low melody and responding with high one and things like that. Sounds like the solo has sense and meaning to it. Great work.
Technique- Your bending is in tune which is great; I liked a lot tapping along with tremolo picking. Very nice mixture of techniques!
Outro/ending- I think personally ending could have been a bit stronger! Melodically you hit the right note at the end but before it phrasing sounded a bit weak and the note choice could have been better as well.
I feel that you need to work on phrasing just a little bit more and your playing will come out even stronger. Also practice ending your solos strong!
Again this applies to all of you guys - for more detailed comments write me on PM regarding specific parts.
Thank you botoxfox


Caelumamittendum (1:06-1:38)

Intro – Totally unexpected! If that’s what you were going for - great job! If that was not for you were going for I think you need to build the intro differently with different phrasing/rhythm. Or perhaps start with one guitar and later add more etc.
Sound – Sounds like too many things going on at once. Overall guitar sound is good however if 2 or more melodies are going in the background you need to be careful how you incorporate them. I like the energy the courage you took and experimenting in this one was awesome. Sounded like you were doing poly tonal playing (two different tonalities going on at the same time etc)
Phrasing/time feel/rhythm- All the guitar parts sound in time which is great. You need to work on mixing them and not overloading them wink.gif
Development/melodic shapes – Again at certain parts it lacked development but in some it was great work! Like when you repeated the same rhythmic and melodic shape higher on your guitar - that was great work!
Technique- Legato is strong here, there is some bending, and harmonics are also refreshing here. For this solo these techniques work great.
Outro/ending- It has a nice climaxed ending with fast passages in one guitar part while the other one is going slow and ending on Root.
Thank you Ben (Caelumamittendum )


Canis (1:38- 2:10)

Intro – I like the opening riff a lot especially the repetition after. Good job!
Sound – Good work the notes come out with distortion.
Phrasing/time feel/rhythm- It feels like you need to work in this area. The phrases are behind the beat and there is tendency like you are coming in late couple of times.
Development/melodic shapes – Nice work here I like the way melodies communicate in this one.
Technique- From technical stand point not crazy stuff going on here but you sacrificed technique for melodic approach and repetition which is cool! Work on your bending just a little bit and it will be perfect!
Outro/ending- I feel you could have done something different instead of main repetitive riff on here. However I love the ending note (G over D perfect 4th) the notes before that could have been different.
Overall good work with repetition and melodic shapes, phrasing needs work as well as bends. If your goal is to incorporate in future solos some tapping and other techniques I would advise focusing on them and trying to improvise just with them.

Thanks Canis



Coffeeman (2:10 – 2:42)


Intro – Good job with ascending run and then rhythmically slowing things down and creating great build up.
Sound – Could perhaps raise it up a little bit with EQ's other than that great.
Phrasing/time feel/rhythm- Great job overall. One spot that needed work was when you were doing faster economy picking towards the end of solo. It sounds like you were falling behind the beat there. So some work with time feel is recommended.
Development/melodic shapes – I like it a lot the way you approached the solo. Great work, melodies interact very well and development is there from intro to ending.
Technique- Bending legato alternate and economy picking good job with these. For what you were trying to get across with your solos these techniques worked perfectly.
Outro/ending- Long bended notes worked great. Perhaps slide out or lowering volume on the last bend would have worked even better.
Overall very good solo that needed time feel work on certain spots but other than that approach was great.
Keep up the good work Coffeeman and thank you for the take!



Enforcer (2:42 – 3:14)[b]

Intro – Awesome intro! Loved what you did here with one riff then repeated it and developed it with 2nd ending.
Sound – Very good work with the sound, very pleasing and spot on with the style.
Phrasing/time feel/rhythm- Intro is great along with all the other parts. One thing that sounded a bit off was after tapping part that short brake you took there. Overall very strong.
Development/melodic shapes – One of the best developments I have heard in this collaboration. Different repetitions, different phrases and rhythm - keep up the good work.
Technique- A lot of cool techniques in this solo. One small thing I have to say is that first bend you did didn't sound 100% exact so I would just point you to work on that a little bit more. Tapping , tremolo picking , tremolo vibrato , regular vibrato all great !
Outro/ending- Very effective , Van Halen like ending beautiful ! (think Beat it solo wink.gif

I love this take; it has all the things necessary that make up great solo. Your understanding of melodic approach repetition is very strong and I love how you used that with some of the rock techniques and created this solo.
Amazing job, thank you for your take Enforcer!




ItsMe (3:14 – 3:46)

Intro – Pinched harmonic sounded great however phrasing was a bit off and made the intro sound weaker than it should.
Sound – It’s a bit dark but the notes still come out clear. I would try to work on some highs and middles with that patch.
Phrasing/time feel/rhythm- This sounds like it needs work the most in this whole solo. There were great melodic ideas, patterns and sequences but the phrasing was not on the beat. You need to work more with backing tracks and metronome. Write up your favorite rhythmic patterns, create your licks over them, and practice them with backing track and or metronome at various tempos. This will lock down your phrasing and it will sound much stronger.
Development/melodic shapes – Very nice development however later during the climax part of the solo there was far too many technical things going on (sounded like exercise almost). So just a little more work on development you will make it sound awesome.
Technique- Good mixture of legato tapping bending even some pinched harmonics.
Outro/ending- Sounded like you ended sooner than you expected and then you waited and hit the D note up an octave smile.gif You should start working on ending your solos stronger.
Overall since you improvised I would say this is very normal to have mistakes. However, the more you improvise and focus on correcting your weak points, your playing will sound even more mature and professional.
I only wrote this much info for you because I know how you play and this was definitely not your best so I am trying to motivate you and push you to try harder next time.
Thank you ItsMe !


kjutte (3:46 – 4:18)
Intro – Great intro with added development with repetition, ending everything on the root at the end.
Sound – I am not huge fan of your sound and I feel you need to look for other types of distortion. This one sounds like its in the background and not “in your face” type of sound which would really work with your aggressive style of playing.
Phrasing/time feel/rhythm- First half of the solo is spot on. Second half has more wondering around searching for some notes which caused phrasing to drop and rush or be behind the beat. You need to work on it more by practicing various rhythmic patterns and applying your own lines to it.
Development/melodic shapes – Very good job with development and melodic shapes. Solo has low high and middle points so that’s what we really needed to look for in there. There were couple wrong notes in the solo that you should pay attention to and some bending was not 100% accurate, other than that great job!
Technique- Your picking is very strong and powerful. I think with techniques you applied in this solo attitude really came out (aggressive) so I feel that you have achieved your purpose.
Outro/ending- This part really needs work more than anything. Sounded like you finished couple of seconds before the actual backing ended and then you repeated your ending to fit it in the end. I feel it would have been better if you left it without adding the last thing to the ending because it just made it worse like it didn’t belong there. So again, you need to work on soloing and creating characteristic endings that will fit your style of playing. Listen to your favorite artists, transcribe their endings (phrasing especially) and then apply your melodic choices over that same rhythm see what you can come up with. When you have done that and learned from it, start creating your own rhythm for endings and practice lines with it.
Overall this was strong and good solo. There were couple wrong notes in the solo that you should pay attention to and some bending was not 100% accurate. Taking in consideration that this was improvised solo - great job!
Thanks kjutte!


Matt23 (4:18- 4:50)
Intro – Very interesting note choice in the intro. I like the first phrase a lot but then second one doesn’t really respond well to the first one. So in that sense I feel the intro could have been stronger (you started strong then ended it weak).
Sound – Very good sound! It fits the backing track 100% - great job!
Phrasing/time feel/rhythm- This area needs work. With faster passages you seem to be playing behind the beat when in this style of music things should be spot on beat. Work with metronome and backing tracks slowly and build up vocabulary of your original lines/licks/motifs that you will use in the solo. Also work on rhythmic coherence and connecting phrases better.
Development/melodic shapes – Some very nice development happening here. Repetition is there as well as sequence I like that , but I also feel you could have added on some spots different ending and not just do exact repetition for couple of seconds. So that would be great to work on in future coming up with different endings for your lines!
Technique- Again techniques you used served very well in this solo and it definitely described the style. Good job!
Outro/ending- I love the idea that you had for the ending , however the phrasing was a bit weak so the ending didn’t sound as strong as it would have if you played all the notes in time! Note choice was perfect.
Overall I like the energy in this solo, sound was great along with repetition and sequence but there needs to be more work in phrasing area to make all the future solos sound more mature and like from records !
Thank you for your take Matt23 !

OrganizedConfusion(4:50-5:22)
Intro – One of the best entrances in the solo! Great guitar harmony , very characteristic for the style. I loved how waited on starting your phrase didn’t start on beat one ! Excellent work OC.
Sound – Great guitar sounds, fits the backing, notes are clear – nothing to add or take from it.
Phrasing/time feel/rhythm- One of the best time feels in this solo. Great mixture of both fast and slow rhythms. Just by doing that you created some sort of question answer or development. Great job.
Development/melodic shapes – Very good work with development and melodic shapes.
Technique- Techniques work great with this solo.
Outro/ending- Good ending with repetitive phrases and different endings. I feel you could have worked even more on it but it does the job in the context of the solo.
Overall there was one quick section where it sounded like you didn’t pick the note. Also after very intro that ghost note picking didn’t sounds as strong as it should have. With right phrasing and melodic choice it would have been incredible addition to the whole solo!
I really like this solo as it has strong rhythm good melodic choice and interesting development.
OC make sure you work on things I mentioned.
Thank you for your take OC !

Roythebattousai (5:22-5:54)
Intro – Very nice intervallic intro with some sequence happening. Good job!
Sound – Good sound however I think if you took a bit gain of it it would be even better (or boosted some highs and mid EQs).
Phrasing/time feel/rhythm- At some points phrasing is really good at some it sounds rushed. You need to slow down your rhythms and put melodies to them before speeding them up. Otherwise it sounds like its rushed or muffled and melodies don’t really breathe.
Development/melodic shapes – Great development and melodic shapes in this solo. It has beginning end repetition sequence different endings – very good work!
Technique- Slide in/out was great here! Very unexpected and it work perfectly. Your vibrato sounds a bit out of pitch so this is something that you need the most work on along with phrasing. Picking and everything else was very good!
Outro/ending- Again like couple of guys it sounded like you wanted to end it before the actual ending. The rhythm you used for last two notes in ending made it very obvious it was ending (I like that a lot). But sequence you used before would suit better if it was done in the middle (development) rather than ending. So I feel you could have done better ending on this one.
Overall good solo with great development and melodic shapes, interesting mix of techniques but needs work on Vibrato and Phrasing.
Thank you Roythebattousai!


Sami (5:54-6:26)
Intro – Nice bending idea at the very beginning ! However phrasing is a bit of in the second phrase that responds to the very first one. Good idea , could sound stronger with better phrasing or rhythmic idea there.
Sound – This sound needs work. I felt like it came from some old video game  No seriously it sounds 100% digital and robotic. You need to give it some soul. For starters less gain better work with EQs and you will be half way there. The rest will be choosing right pre amp, setting up noise gate and things like that.
Phrasing/time feel/rhythm- Sounds both good and bad. Besides the intro part with the small mistake I mentioned, during the rest of the solo sounds fairly strong. So overall this is good work but there is space for improvement definitely. Work on songs, riffs solos and apply those rhythms in your improvising. Record yourself and critique your progress daily.
Development/melodic shapes – Great development. I felt at times two guitars were playing here. One asking question other responding with good answer. Half way in the solo you did this great arpeggio and then responded with harmony descending run. That was awesome!
Technique- For the approach you took in this solo techniques work great.
Outro/ending- This is a good example how long note can work well. Good job , however I feel you could have ended it earlier as its not necessary to have one note ring out for hours wink.gif
Overall I am happy with development , some interesting melodic approaches and intro, but I feel work needs to be done in general Sound as well as Ending and some phrasing.
Thank you Sami!

SonofDestiny (6:26-6:58)
Intro – Excellent intro I like it a lot. Great phrasing applied and excellent note choice, great job here!
Sound – Works well with this backing however it might be even better with just a touch of less gain. Good work.
Phrasing/time feel/rhythm- To most extent good job however after you repeated the intro riff the second ending was not strong enough (with melodic leaps). So you need to work on that in future.
Development/melodic shapes – Nice choice of melodic shapes, and I like the development in the most parts except in the very ending. Good job.
Technique – Vibrato and Bending need work. Vibrato is not really bad but I feel you can contribute to your style more if you had a little more aggressive vibrato. Bending is not 100% on pitch so you need to work on it (direct and pre bends as well). Everything else technique wise sounds like it suited the solo well.
Outro/ending- This was your weakest part in the whole solo I believe. The rhythm you chose did not match with your whole solo and things you played before hand. You could have chosen different rhythm and melodic sequence here. So I would say you need to work on creating different endings in future. Again it helps a lot to transcribe favorite players and analyze their playing. It helps even more to record yourself always and listen to your endings and correct them (edit them to perfection).
Overall this solo had awesome intro, good sound and development but needs work on some phrasing , vibrato bending and endings !
Thank you SonofDestiny!

Superize(6:58 – 7:30)

Intro – Good note choice but with stronger phrasing this would have been awesome intro!
Sound – All the notes are clear which is awesome and distortion is there however your guitar sounds out of tune compared to backing track. Your guitar on recording is a bit sharp that is. You should pay attention to these small details in future as they mean a lot when doing studio projects or recording for somebody’s record or song.
Phrasing/time feel/rhythm- I like the simplicity you picked and at certain points phrasing sounds very strong. So you did good job with that but there were also places where it sounded a bit sloppy like you were unsure whether or not you should start on or off beat your phrase. So I would say practicing with metronome and backing tracks, writing down favorite rhythms and applied licks to them is a must do if you want to sound even more professional in future solos. And this goes for majority of guys here not just you wink.gif
Development/melodic shapes – Since this solo was laid back rhythmically, you did a great job developing it. I think this was far the strongest point in your solo. Great job!
Technique- Very nice use of techniques that blend very well with the approach you took for this solo. I feel you needed to add some stronger Vibrato to your melodies (ending notes especially). That would give them lot more life and meaning. So I recommend you practice ending your phrases (long notes) with different types of vibrato!
Outro/ending- Note choice was great for the ending. The phrasing also worked but I do have advice to give you here! Always try to use different type of time feel/rhythm in your endings then you did trough out the solo. So you used half notes, whole notes, doted quarters etc- why not use Triplet type of rhythm in the ending or constant eight notes or even sixteen notes? That will give definite sense to listener that you finished because variation will be there !
Overall this solo had great note choice, great example how to use longer rhythmic values in solos and melodic shapes. For future you need work on stronger phrasing (playing on and of the beat it time) , stronger vibrato and more distinguished ending !

Thank you Superize!



Tjchep(7:30-8:02)
Intro – Interesting intervallic leaps and phrasing. I didn’t however like the connection between first two phrases and feel you could have done even better job with that! Overall this is good but it can be better.
Sound – This was probably your weakest point in the whole solo. The sound was full of lows and it sounded like you covered your amp with blanket or something  Seriously with the melodic choices you make when soloing your sound would bring that even more up , so I would spend some time experimenting with pre amp settings as well as EQ’s and distortions.
Phrasing/time feel/rhythm- Very interesting phrasing. Sounds very advanced fusion type to same extent (thing Guthrie Govan for example). Good job however you need to have some sort of variation in it so I suggest working out more rhythmic combinations and implying them in your playing!
Development/melodic shapes – Melodic shapes were excellent but I am not happy with development! Sounded like you just wanted to play over the backing track and “make the changes”. What you should have done rather is approached it like you were telling story with your solo. The story I got from your solo is like you could talk for hours like that and there was no end to it. In other words, your solo doesn’t have sections (beginning middle end, climax high and low points) worked out. So my sincere advice is that you need to think about this more – especially when improvising !
Technique- Flawless technique – this was your strongest point no doubt. Great tremolo usage along with legato technique.
Outro/ending- You faded out your ending so I didn’t really hear what your intention was there. Either way you could have ended it earlier or extended it but made interesting rhythmic phrase to correspond with your melodic idea. Ending could be much better.
I have heard your playing on forum TJ and I know you are talented and gifted player. However this doesn’t mean that there is no place to improve – on contrary , I expect you with talent and age that you posses to work double hard than anybody here because trust me I know – this will bring great results for you in future. I hope you take all these critiques and advices from heart and I don’t mean to discourage your or anybody else from improving – it should have immediate effect on you to sit down grab your guitar and get to practicing.
Overall this solo had great technique beautiful phrasing but sound of the guitar along with ending and development needs work.
Thank you Tjchep!


Tolek (8:02 – 8:34)

Intro – Very good intro. Features regular and syncopated rhythm. I like question and answer in it. Great job.
Sound – It is very difficult to judge the sound since its recorded with camcorder but I would say it has a touch of extra gain that I would take off. Perhaps boosting highs and mids on EQ would have worked as well.
Phrasing/time feel/rhythm- Some parts have great phrasing some your rushing or slowing down. In general the faster the lick is you tend to play out of time. So my recommendation is to practice all the fast passages with metronome and backing tracks slow before trying to use them in real solo. Overall you have nice combination of straight and syncopated rhythms!
Development/melodic shapes – This solo develops great. One of the best developments along with other guys mentioned. Story has story behind it and melodic shapes do the great job telling that story along with phrasing. This is your strongest point with technique.
Technique- Very cool usage of techniques in this solo. You really made me believe you were leaning in intermediate zone of a player from the tapping sliding and legato. However out of time phrasing gave you away easily there wink.gif Good job with techniques!
Outro/ending- One of the “flashiest” endings in the whole collaboration. Really shows that you sat down and worked the ending out especially for this occasion and I appreciate that a lot! Very good job.
Overall Tolek this solo was one of the best ones structure wise. Melodic shapes and development was great. Usage of techniques was very well placed. This solo needed work on phrasing/rhythm to be spot on in certain places. Other than that everything was done with great taste.
I believe if you did couple of extra takes that the phrasing would have been better as well , but that’s something you have to work on in future collaborations !
Thank you Tolek !


Toroso (8:34 – 9:06)
Intro – Good ideas with repetitive melodies however the phrasing should be stronger to make it sound spot on! Good effort.
Sound – Very interesting guitar sound (effect wise). Sounds like there is some auto wah or filter going on there I really like how you used that. On the other side, your guitar sounds like its slightly out of tune (sharp). It might not be the tuning but rather your fingers- you might be pressing strings too hard into frets and this causes intonation to vary and sound sharp. So I would definitely check that out!
Phrasing/time feel/rhythm- Your phrasing is 99% behind the beat. In this style of music you have to be on top sometimes even over the top to play with energy and lead the bend. You sound like band is playing and you are trying to reach them somehow. I think it might have to do with usage of syncopated rhythm. I am sure if you choose simpler and longer rhythm like Superize you would have cruised through the solo! So my suggestion is to practice rhythms and phrasing – that was your weakest point in this solo.
Development/melodic shapes – There is some nice melodic shapes and developing is definitely happening. I feel that if you applied different rhythm to some of the notes it would be even stronger but overall good job with this one!
Technique- Your bending needs work. You need to practice to bend in and to bend out of the note (pre bend), and this you need to practice with different rhythms and tempos. Other than that techniques used were great!
Outro/ending- This part along with phrasing was the weakest in the solo. Perhaps, again, if you used different rhythm for the notes it would have sounded stronger.
I think this take is perfect example for future references for you my friend. You will very soon see how all the things I advised you on will be gone if you get to practice. I am personally very much looking forward to your future collaborations and takes as I feel you among all the players will have very obvious improvements!
Thank you for your take Toroso!


UncleSkilet(9:06 – 9:38)
Intro – Excellent! Great phrasing and the long bend with gradual decreasing to original pitch is just brilliant. I love it!
Sound – It fits nicely the backing track. Good job.
Phrasing/time feel/rhythm- Phrasing is almost perfect! You have firm understanding of rhythm and your time feel usage is great however sometimes you rush a phrase and that happens usually when you TIE a note or hold it trough the bar lines (one note for two different chords for example). This requires some “digging” in your phrasing and practicing very specific rhythmic patterns that will help you overcome that difficulty.
Development/melodic shapes – Development is definitely there. Your solo tells me a story , I like that a lot. Melodic shapes are also there. From predictable ones (intervallic runs) to unpredictable ones (question and answers with high and low phrases). Very good job.
Technique- Nice combination of techniques here. I would say that you like Satriani – correct me if I am wrong  I hear his rhythm in your legato phrases! One thing I noticed is that you tend to overuse the slide out technique when you finish your phrase. Try to restrict yourself from doing it so often. It should be used as special effect not as part of solo  Your vibrato is very shaky compared to everybody else in this collaboration. I would love to hear you in future collaborations with less aggressive vibrato!
Outro/ending- Its very good , it would have been amazing if you hit all the notes and used tremolo picking in my opinion.
Overall this is very good solo. It tells a story , uses nice techniques and good development and melodic shapes. Phrasing needs some “polishing” but other than that I am happy with this take.
Thank you UncleSkillet!


Velvet Roger (9:38 – 10:10)
Intro – Great idea for the intro I loved it. I didn’t like that you extended the intro very long when you had chance to end the phrase much sooner. Great melodic choice!
Sound – Very interesting sound! I like it, its different and notes come out. It doesn’t however have a lot of gain , in fact its more of a bluesy type of sound . I would add a touch of gain to it perhaps.
Phrasing/time feel/rhythm- This area needs some work. You have very nice syncopated ideas. I think that you need to use more rests in your solos and make them breathe. Also start working on some “on beat” type rhythms. When you overuse syncopated phrases then they don’t mean as much as if they were balanced with on beat phrasing. This is something you need to work on.
Development/melodic shapes – I loved how you had repetition and different endings here. Excellent job developing from one idea. I think in future you would be very good jazz player as this is something that jazz players do a lot. Melodic shapes are also well incorporated with the fact that you used a lot of repetition.
Technique- Your bending needs work (double bends in particular). Other than that techniques you choose for your solo worked well with the intensity level in it! Good job.
Outro/ending- Double stops didn’t sound strong (accented) as they should. Since the phrasing was similar to the whole solo, you had two options to do in your ending : 1) totally change phrasing or 2) do something different melodically or technically that will determine that passage to sound like ending.
Overall I like the ideas in this solo a lot along with that sound. I think your phrasing needs work (on beat phrasing in particular) and also bending. I see you improving a lot just by adjusting your phrasing.
I look forward to your future solos on collaborations.

Ok guys , this was it.
I hope that you enjoyed your comments and that you found them useful and meaningful to each one of you.
I would like to take this opportunity and thank you all for participating in my first collaboration at GMC. It was my honor to have you in, listen to your takes and give you my opinion on them.
Sorry about the final mix – I did the grading based on your takes you sent me with backing tracks .

Thank you for reading all this and if you have any extra questions shoot me a private message if you don’t want it answered here.

Keep up the good work everybody and I hope to see you in my next collaboration.

Pedja



This post has been edited by Pedja Simovic: Nov 26 2008, 01:18 PM
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post Nov 26 2008, 02:54 AM
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Sounds great!

Great work everyone!

Thanks for the helpful comments, Pedja! This was really helpful!


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Wow is all i can say. This is epic lol. I need sleep to digest it all and i will post longer thoughts tomoz. This is exactly what i need. I like to know where i need to improve. This is crazy. Thanks for your time pedja. Now you can rest biggrin.gif


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Thanks for great advice!

I don't agree to some of it, but I believe these subjects are about personal flavor and not knowledge.

I will definitely take all of your advice seriously, and try to improve for the next collab!!! smile.gif
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QUOTE (Roythebattousai @ Nov 26 2008, 02:54 AM) *
Sounds great!

Great work everyone!

Thanks for the helpful comments, Pedja! This was really helpful!


Glad you found comments helpful Roy. I look forward to hear you in future collabs.

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Wow is all i can say. This is epic lol. I need sleep to digest it all and i will post longer thoughts tomoz. This is exactly what i need. I like to know where i need to improve. This is crazy. Thanks for your time pedja. Now you can rest biggrin.gif

OC when I read your response by itself it values the time and effort I put into this collaboration. Thank you for that and yes I will rest now smile.gif

QUOTE (kjutte @ Nov 26 2008, 03:05 AM) *
Thanks for great advice!

I don't agree to some of it, but I believe these subjects are about personal flavor and not knowledge.

I will definitely take all of your advice seriously, and try to improve for the next collab!!! smile.gif


kjutte sound advice is personal suggestion while ending is obvious and definite suggestion. Couldn't agree more with your attitude. I look forward to your future takes in my collaborations.

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Awesome man! Thanks again, and I am glad I didn't offend you, as I 100% trust your judgement. smile.gif
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Ok what am I missing?? Where is the link for the final track? huh.gif


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QUOTE (UncleSkillet @ Nov 26 2008, 04:04 AM) *
Ok what am I missing?? Where is the link for the final track? huh.gif


Don't remember what you posted? tongue.gif
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QUOTE (kjutte @ Nov 25 2008, 10:41 PM) *
Don't remember what you posted? tongue.gif


Now you have me confused smile.gif . What are you talking about???????????????????? rolleyes.gif

There is another duplicate thread that has the link with the mp3 (just found it). Could a admin please move everything to one post please.

EDIT: Oh now I get it. Good one smile.gif I should of typed final mix mp3 link.

Thanks

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QUOTE (UncleSkillet @ Nov 26 2008, 04:47 AM) *
Now you have me confused smile.gif . What are you talking about???????????????????? rolleyes.gif

There is another duplicate thread that has the link with the mp3 (just found it). Could a admin please move everything to one post please.

EDIT: Oh now I get it. Good one smile.gif I should of typed final mix mp3 link.

Thanks


Haha, I know man. Sorry, but most people remember their take, and just check out the final comment of their own stuff it seems.

It's quite evident as you were the only one noticing the MP3 weren't in the post biggrin.gif
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Hmmm I guess you forgot my take biggrin.gif .....

No need to redo the mix ofc but would very much like to hear your comments if at all possible.

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Duuuude, you forgot about me ohmy.gif! I'm in the mix, but I think you forgot to add the comment on my playing and the ones after me. Take your time though smile.gif

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QUOTE (SonofDestiny @ Nov 26 2008, 07:37 AM) *
Duuuude, you forgot about me ohmy.gif! I'm in the mix, but I think you forgot to add the comment on my playing and the ones after me. Take your time though smile.gif

They were there when it was first posted as I read the comments for you and up to Velvet Roger huh.gif

I finally got chance to listen to mp3 along with comments today. It was a bit late last night to listen along to everything as it was 2.30am and I had work at 8.30am.

This is just awesome though. So many great guitarists on show and I'm so glad I took part in this and thankfully you brought up the same concerns that I had about my playing and said the parts were good that I thought were good so I agree fully with your comments. Picking is most definitely a weak point for me when you get to certain speeds. Unfortunately my ideas and hearing with my ears is much more developed than my standard of playing. sad.gif I struggle on smile.gif

Thanks again Pedja. These comments are invaluable and offer a returning point so 12 months down the line you can compare your current collabs with older ones like this. smile.gif


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QUOTE (OrganisedConfusion @ Nov 26 2008, 10:02 AM) *
They were there when it was first posted as I read the comments for you and up to Velvet Roger huh.gif


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QUOTE (Velvet Roger @ Nov 26 2008, 09:21 AM) *
Voodoo calls smile.gif

Something weird has occured biggrin.gif

Maybe it's like those old horror films where the characters get killed in a certain order. I think maybe that's why Pedja isn't on currently. He is going round the world taking people's lives starting with Velvet Roger and when they meet their doom their history is erased and hence the comments disappearing.

Either that or he has edited to add mp3 and some comments disappeared by accident and he is currently asleep after working 2 days solidly on this final mix biggrin.gif

I think it might be number 2 reason smile.gif

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There are no comment one my take....


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QUOTE (superize @ Nov 26 2008, 09:45 AM) *
There are no comment one my take....

see above for my explanation. There were comments last night for you as I read them. I'm sure Pedja will correct the problem when he returns smile.gif


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see above for my explanation. There were comments last night for you as I read them. I'm sure Pedja will correct the problem when he returns smile.gif


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