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post Nov 27 2008, 02:21 PM
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Hi everyone.

Im recording a song, and i´d like to record vocals on the tracks. Im using a shure sm58, direct an m-audio fast track pro and recorded in Cubase.

But it sounds dry, and i don´t know what i can add, as in effects, double tracking etc, to make it sound more appealing.
The voice fits the style of voice on the links below how do they record and treat these voice tracks?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8SEGPmVYwQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shhZ42ZfMQk...feature=related

And artists of similar style of course!

Thanks!

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post Nov 27 2008, 04:57 PM
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Maybe add some reverb to give it some space and play around with some eq. Once you find a decent fit, duplicate that track and pan each to the right and left. Then play around with each til you get the desired "thickness" of the vocals.

Upload a sample and maybe others could help a bit more. smile.gif


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post Nov 27 2008, 08:49 PM
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First of all you need a really good singer for that type of singing. This is the most important thing.

Second, you should improvise a small vocal booth in your room, face the wall and get a blanket over the wall to prevent the flutter echo or any reverberation. Record voice as dry as you can.

Third, color the voice. There are tons of different plugs to color the voice. You can insert some preamp modeling, vintage warmer, EQs, compression. This will give your voice that punchy and juicy flavor.

Four - add space. Adding good space on vocals is essential. They should blend with the track nicely. Put too much, and the singer is in 100m away from band. Put to little, singer is in front of the face, while band is 50m in the back. A good combination of reverb and delay is most common used method. In the end you need to EQ the reverb as well.

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It is not an easy and cheap job to record a vocal smile.gif

Shure SM-58 is a dynamic mic designed for live vocals on-stage, for studio you need a condenser mic with pop filter

other important things are a good mic pre-amp and well treated area (vocal booth) as Ivan mentioned. smile.gif


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post Nov 29 2008, 07:08 AM
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It all really depends what you want.As they sad in the posts before,if you want studio like sound,that want work with out a room,pre amp,and a good condenser mic.
Shure is very good mic.,Do a little compression,eq,and reverb,try to not over do it with reverb.


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post Dec 24 2008, 06:57 PM
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is it impossible to do a good vocal recording with a cheap mic?


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post Dec 25 2008, 12:35 AM
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It depends what do you mean by "good recording" mate. Sure you can achieve some good results with a cheap mic, but don't expect nothing spectacular. Cheap mic is a cheap mic, and it will cut off some frequencies, so the sound cannot be that good. Again, I say you can make good results, and they depend a lot from preamp, acoustics of the room, and producing quality.


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post Dec 25 2008, 12:54 AM
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Cool topic - and some excellent advice shared already.

I would say depending on what sound you are going for - you can get away with an extremely cheap microphone without it sounding bad.

Also if your vocal ability needs some "disguising" with vst plugins - the more effects you add the less you are going to hear of the original recording. For instance if you are going for really aggressive music - you could drown your vocal recording in distortion (probably not a good idea to get a sound similar to the links you posted though!)

However - even with a cheap mic you can get a really powerful sound if you manage to create a good dub (extra take) of your vocal lead. Solo the two tracks to make sure they are tight with each other (ie they should sound exactly identical).

Add compression and high-cut to the dub track, pan it a little differently than the lead track and you should already have a more powerful sound.

I hope this gives you some ideas about how you can experiment...! Oh and I use TSM condenser microphone for all my recordings - the cost on ebay should be around 30-60 usd I guess.

By the way I would like to try and record vocals with an SM57 - does anybody have experience with that? smile.gif


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post Jan 1 2009, 06:43 PM
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QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Dec 25 2008, 12:54 AM) *
By the way I would like to try and record vocals with an SM57 - does anybody have experience with that? smile.gif


I tried,but SM57 is best as instrumental mic.But SM57 could be used in some experimental purposes,like strange back vocals or if you want to make phone line sound(with eq later in the mix) you could use SM57.But for main recording I would not recomed it.
My producer just baught 4 SM57 mic's,we recorrded drums with them(Snare,Bottom Snare and toms.)And results are mazing.

But Shure SM58 beta iz amazing for vocal recordingsAttached Image

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Thanks Nemanja - I might give a try then! smile.gif


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The 57 can give good results depending on the type of vocals. It isn't an uncoloured mic though so will work well with some vocal types and make others sound poor. The 57 - to me - has a definite lift in the high frequency end whereas a 58 gives more lift to the mid-range, still with a lift to the top end but not quite as pronounced as the 57. The beta 58a is a better mic but also costs about 40-50 Euros more then a standard SM57 or SM58. If you can Kris try out a few different mics to see which works for your voice.

One thing about recording vocals - pay attention to and experiment a bit with the position of the mic - distance and whether on or off axis and above/below/in-line...

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QUOTE (tonymiro @ Jan 15 2009, 05:29 PM) *
One thing about recording vocals - pay attention to and experiment a bit with the position of the mic - distance and whether on or off axis and above/below/in-line...

Cheers,
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That is very true tony,when I record my vocals,I have marked distance on the flor(from me to mic).


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