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Nighthawk1
post Nov 29 2008, 11:29 AM
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HI GMC,
did you ever wondered what makes out good music or a good guitarist? Well, the answer is pretty simple. Music = Melody x Harmony x Rhythm x Sound. So a good guitarist should have sufficient and (above all) a pretty balanced skill of all these factors. If your Rhythm sucks or mathematically tends to get ZERO all the others factors (skills) are more or less worthless too because a bad sounding note in right timing sounds better than a good sounding note misplaced.
At the moment I disovered two great programs which help me a lot to get serious about speed on guitar (guitarspeed trainer) and to get a huge knowledge of scales and chords (guitar scales). This helps me a lot for improvisation and understanding why something sounds like it sounds.
The good thing is, in addition with all the great lessons here at GMC and working on my speed and scale knowledge, I feel of being on a huge and right progress path everyday.
But my problem is that I don't know very well how to improve and get seriously, effectively and planed better on my poor timing and rhythm skills.
I have many difficulties to sightread complicated rhythm patterns. So I bought this because it described my problem perfectly well:
http://www.amazon.com/Sight-Read-Rhythm-In...5609&sr=8-1 .
But unfortunately it didn't turn out to be a good helper at all even though it covers exactly my problem. I just don't get along with the concept of this book.
Of course I know all the theory about note durations etc., so that's not my problem...I just have still huge difficulties to play difficult rhythmic figures (solo or rhythm guitar) right, let alone with the metronome.
So to put it in a nutshell can you guys help me how to practise timing and rhythm in order to
- sightread difficult rhythmic patterns and just knowing how it sounds without thinking so much about note durations etc
- how to be creative with rhythm when improvising
Do you know any good programs, books etc?

I am thankful for all suggestions.
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Jesse
post Nov 29 2008, 11:46 AM
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Rythm with improvising, you mean solo' s right?
Well, for an instance when playing the blues, you get like this below no matter how fast, record yourself just playing this in a blusy swing rythm, doesnt matter how fast. Now set it up as a backing track, ever time it goes from the 2d to the 4 th fret play just 2 notes. one for the 2th and the 4th fret. Now you know how much space you got in between those notes. As for practice, make sure you start and end on the same note so you know when you should stop your lick. When you practice this, you can listen to what sounds good in between, to develop a kind of instinct for this. You can set up a slow backing track, or a fast one, so you can improvise with different speeds as long as you stay in between the powerchord change, this might sound incredibly bad since I dont know how to explain it well:D
I can' t help you with rythm reading, I suck at that but I got something in my book that might help, Ill look at it and if it seems helpfull I' ll scan it for you:D

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I' m sorry if you don' t get a clue of all what I just said, I don' t know how to say it properly:D

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post Nov 29 2008, 11:55 AM
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Thanks for your answer. It is interesting to hear what you said and I think I understood. Thanks a lot...
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post Nov 29 2008, 11:56 AM
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WOW You did?! CooL! Btw, I just got guitar speed trainer.... seems like fun:P


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Ivan Milenkovic
post Nov 29 2008, 04:22 PM
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Let me tell you this story:
There were times when I didn't focused so much on 16 note triplets, or any triplets. This led to the fact that I haven't used them a lot in my playing. Most of the time I went to 16 note runs, because I wasn't used to practicing anything different. When I realized this, I started to practice every exercise that I did with all the note durations, starting from whole notes,half notes, quarters, eights, eight triplets, sixteen, sixteen triplets. This helps a lot later in playing, cause through exercise you acquire the feel for playing different values, not by knowing them on paper.

With strumming it is the same.

Here are some of the most basic exercises I did is breaking down one beat into 4 16 notes strikes like this:

down-up-down-up

every strike above represents one 16 note. So I made muting combinations like this:

1234
x234
1x34
12x4
123x
xx34
1xx4
12xx
1xxx
xxx4

After you are done with that, you can try to combine this basic "blocks". The number of combinations may seem a bit overwhelming, but in reality, if you go through all the blocks once, it will be easier to combine them later. With every exercise your technique is more powerful and you learn new rhythmic figures more easily.






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