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post Dec 1 2008, 01:47 AM
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Hi Muris,
In the GP5 tab of your Phrygian lesson I have a question. In the 5th measure on the 3rd beat should that just be two groups of 7 and then the 4th beat is a group of six and a group of seven? Or is it correct like it is tabbed? If it is correct could you explain it to me? I know I have tried to tab some complicated stuff on GP5 before and had this happen. Thanks for your help and AWESOME LESSON. You know I'm gonna hit you up for the backing track soon laugh.gif laugh.gif I have decided to use this and your Mojo Oro lessons to start to get my picking chops up to snuff. I will be posting some SLOW takes soon biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

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post Dec 1 2008, 11:53 AM
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Hmm,would like to tell but I don't know
what is 5th measure of 3rd beat
cause measure and beat are the same most of the time. smile.gif


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post Dec 1 2008, 12:09 PM
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Ehr. I think it is the 3rd beat in the fifth measure, that Monte is talking about. The legato run consisting of seventuplets and sixtuplets. To my reckoning it is easily translated into: "7 notes in time of 4" and 6 notes in time of four (that being 32nd notes).

Without knowing 100 % I'm not sure if this is to be completely exact or more of a "I know I have to compress x notes into 7 beats"-ish? Muris can probably answer that more correctly.


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post Dec 1 2008, 12:16 PM
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Still don't get it quite right guys. smile.gif

Is it in 1st of 5th bar,picking or legato part?


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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Dec 1 2008, 12:16 PM) *
Still don't get it quite right guys. smile.gif

Is it in 1st of 5th bar,picking or legato part?


3rd beat of the 5th bar on the long satriani stye legato run. Thanks.

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Ehr. I think it is the 3rd beat in the fifth measure, that Monte is talking about. The legato run consisting of seventuplets and sixtuplets. To my reckoning it is easily translated into: "7 notes in time of 4" and 6 notes in time of four (that being 32nd notes).

Without knowing 100 % I'm not sure if this is to be completely exact or more of a "I know I have to compress x notes into 7 beats"-ish? Muris can probably answer that more correctly.



Thanks Cael...., I wish I could pronounce your screen name laugh.gif laugh.gif I think you cleared it up for me more or less.


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QUOTE (lcsdds @ Dec 1 2008, 12:26 PM) *
3rd beat of the 5th bar on the long satriani stye legato run. Thanks.


Now we're talking! laugh.gif

Ok,similar idea as with first bar,picking section.
The whole thing is about fingering and pattern,
they are kings,not timing.
So if I play same section once again
it'll probably be not 100% the same,timing wise.
That kind of approach is often seen in Satch's solos,
he plays a pattern without thinking of timing too much,
that's why it's very hard to tab and leads to confusion sometimes.
But once you get the pattern under you fingers
you'll see that timing isn't crucial here,
crucial is to execute the whole section in a flow. smile.gif


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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Dec 1 2008, 12:30 PM) *
Now we're talking! laugh.gif

Ok,similar idea as with first bar,picking section.
The whole thing is about fingering and pattern,
they are kings,not timing.
So if I play same section once again
it'll probably be not 100% the same,timing wise.
That kind of approach is often seen in Satch's solos,
he plays a pattern without thinking of timing too much,
that's why it's very hard to tab and leads to confusion sometimes.
But once you get the pattern under you fingers
you'll see that timing isn't crucial here,
crucial is to execute the whole section in a flow. smile.gif


Gotcha!! Thanks Muris!!


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post Dec 1 2008, 12:35 PM
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QUOTE (lcsdds @ Dec 1 2008, 12:33 PM) *
Gotcha!! Thanks Muris!!


Monte


Anytime. smile.gif

I tried to explain it in a text and video,sorry if I failed. wink.gif


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Don't think you failed.

I think things as these come somewhat unnatural to most guitarist (myself included at times) that not all is supposed to played 100% "correctly" - meaning that a 9-tuplet run followed by a 13-tuplet run etc...is often more of a feeling than exact playing. Am I right here?


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post Dec 1 2008, 01:49 PM
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Just like that,it's all about feel how you gonna execute that part,
timing really varies,can be done in many ways. smile.gif


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post Dec 1 2008, 03:04 PM
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Muris,
One more question tongue.gif tongue.gif In bar 10 you have them tabbed as being picked but in the video you say/play them as pull-offs. Is the tab wrong or the video? Sorry to be such a pain laugh.gif laugh.gif

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post Dec 1 2008, 04:12 PM
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You mean the part right after Hybrid,D and G strings only,ascending lick ala Gilbert?


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post Dec 1 2008, 04:39 PM
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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Dec 1 2008, 04:12 PM) *
You mean the part right after Hybrid,D and G strings only,ascending lick ala Gilbert?


Yes, that's the one


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QUOTE (lcsdds @ Dec 1 2008, 04:39 PM) *
Yes, that's the one


That's one is pure pull-offs,no doubt there.
Hmm,not sure how I missed that,
will fix it asap,sorry and thanks for pointing it out. smile.gif


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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Dec 2 2008, 12:03 AM) *
That's one is pure pull-offs,no doubt there.
Hmm,not sure how I missed that,
will fix it asap,sorry and thanks for pointing it out. smile.gif


No problem, makes it easier for me to play laugh.gif laugh.gif Thanks.

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QUOTE (lcsdds @ Dec 2 2008, 12:25 AM) *
No problem, makes it easier for me to play laugh.gif laugh.gif Thanks.

Monte


Makes it easier for ALL of us actually. wink.gif


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