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bladzerok
post Jan 11 2009, 02:02 PM
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yeah i have the same problem as you! i usualy have lots of inspiration for riffs, but when it comes to creating a song and making it sound coherent, i feel like i am going nowhere... its quite frustrating. i started to analyse songs about a month ago but it didn't helped me much.

but i think i found out the problem. i was trying to build a D-T style progressive song as my first song. its quite obvious that i was feeling lost in my arrangements
so the lesson is: you must learn to walk before running laugh.gif


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post Jan 11 2009, 03:59 PM
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QUOTE (bladzerok @ Jan 11 2009, 02:02 PM) *
yeah i have the same problem as you! i usualy have lots of inspiration for riffs, but when it comes to creating a song and making it sound coherent, i feel like i am going nowhere... its quite frustrating. i started to analyse songs about a month ago but it didn't helped me much.

but i think i found out the problem. i was trying to build a D-T style progressive song as my first song. its quite obvious that i was feeling lost in my arrangements
so the lesson is: you must learn to walk before running laugh.gif


Last thing you said sums it all cool.gif


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post Jan 11 2009, 06:13 PM
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I agree what is written above, and well, you can check this out...

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Gerardo Siere
post Jan 11 2009, 09:02 PM
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I would add this, use the structure of some other song and some of its chord progresions. When you make some consistent stuff for a while you will naturally be able to develop the particular skills you were practicing as a second nature, is also a good idea to compose over a score editor so you can see everything written and make playbak and figure out why something isn´t working.


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Vasilije Vukmiro...
post Jan 13 2009, 07:34 PM
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I guess you need to know little bit of theory, also, having a good ear helps a lot. Arranging isn't always easy process, you experiment with different sounds, riffs, melodies, and find the best solution.


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Pedja Simovic
post Jan 14 2009, 12:06 PM
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Berklee has amazing program on Arranging.

Have you checked out their books?

Some I strongly suggest are :

- Music notation (to learn about music stuff and writing notes)
- Modern Chord Voicings
- Arranging for small band ensemble
- Arranging for large band ensemble

Then there is basic Arranging books that are used as beginner course at Berklee

- Arranging 1
- Arranging 2
- Arranging 3
- Arranging 4

Besides these you can get books on how to use Finale, Digital performer and kinds of music notation software.

Check it all out HERE


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