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ChrisVdS
post Dec 7 2008, 05:01 PM
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I'm just wondering how much the influence is of the wood the body is made of on the pickups for the sound you get from the pickups. Because i love BKP Nailbombs but would they sound much different in my Ibanez RG (basswood) then let's say in a Les Paul (mohogany) using the same amp with same settings??



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post Dec 7 2008, 05:06 PM
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Yeah, i want to know this as well, for example what is more suitable woods for heavy sounding?
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post Dec 7 2008, 05:06 PM
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Generally guitars with mahogany body sound a bit darker the basswood ones. I can't say if they sounded better or worse because that depends on you smile.gif.

Alex, mahogany bodies are often used for heavy sounds. But let's take for example George Lynch, he uses mahogany and maple bodies as well. I think that more important is the way how you (or your fingers) create heavy sound.

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post Dec 7 2008, 05:12 PM
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QUOTE (ChrisVdS @ Dec 7 2008, 05:01 PM) *
I'm just wondering how much the influence is of the wood the body is made of on the pickups for the sound you get from the pickups. Because i love BKP Nailbombs but would they sound much different in my Ibanez RG (basswood) then let's say in a Les Paul (mohogany) using the same amp with same settings??


Yes they will sound diffrent, especially with those high quality passive pickups the guitar shows it's true sound.

The body and neck shape, the used woods, the quality of the parts, the quality of the crafting and even the strings and bridges have an influence on the tone. Those guitars have totally diffrent sounds and the Nailbomb will perform diffrent on each of them but it will still have it's trademark characteristics...


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post Dec 7 2008, 05:23 PM
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Koa and Sitka Spruce are my favourite woods for guitars.


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post Dec 7 2008, 05:42 PM
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QUOTE (Kuba Szafran @ Dec 7 2008, 06:06 PM) *
Generally guitars with mahogany body sound a bit darker the basswood ones. I can't say if they sounded better or worse because that depends on you smile.gif.

Alex, mahogany bodies are often used for heavy sounds. But let's take for example George Lynch, he uses mahogany and maple bodies as well. I think that more important is the way how you (or your fingers) create heavy sound.

Thank you, and you right, of course way of playing will always be as main factor smile.gif but some small factors like what picks used for playing, what woods are used for guitar, strings gauge and brand etc etc. also is kind a important smile.gif just gathering information, that is or will be useful for me later.

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post Dec 7 2008, 05:45 PM
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http://www.warmoth.com/guitar/options/options_bodywoods.cfm

Check out this link. It will tell you alot about the tone quality of many different woods. smile.gif
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post Dec 7 2008, 05:55 PM
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Thanks a lot, i appreciate that:)
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post Dec 7 2008, 06:03 PM
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QUOTE (ChrisVdS @ Dec 7 2008, 04:01 PM) *
I'm just wondering how much the influence is of the wood the body is made of on the pickups for the sound you get from the pickups. Because i love BKP Nailbombs but would they sound much different in my Ibanez RG (basswood) then let's say in a Les Paul (mohogany) using the same amp with same settings??


There are a lot of factors that influence the tone of the guitar. Wood type, density, contruction quality, components and electrical equipment and many others I'm sure I've not mentioned!

The main differences I imagine to be between an Ibanez and RG type guitars if you were to use similar wood in the body/neck for each would be the weight difference and joint difference.

Typically Ibanez' are bolted on necks - similar to strat type guitars, while Gibson use 2 part wood joints, or one solid piece for neck and body.

Also Ibanez' typically have thinner necks and bodies, thus using less wood.

To be more specific to your question, I think the sound would be very different considering the differences between the Ibanez build and the Gibson build. This isn't to say that one would be inferior to the other, because this is always down to personal taste.

Many would probably agree that the most important factors on improving the tone of your instrument is using as best components throughout the guitar.

Installing expensive pickups into a low quality guitar I wouldn't personally recommend. I think the money would show more results in saving up a bit more and getting an altogether slightly better quality guitar.

I'm rambling sorry! To be more specific to your question, I'd say that the wood probably has a bigger influence on the sound than the pickups, but in a different way. All components on the guitar add difference "spices" to the sound, and thus its a rather complicated question to answer!

Also, I find as a general rule of thumb - the darker the wood colour, the warmer the tone. The quality of the wood is a big factor too smile.gif

Ramble over! Also, please feel free to correct me on any of this guys as I'm not certain!


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post Dec 7 2008, 06:03 PM
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Cool thx guys smile.gif I wanted to know because my RG deserves better then those V7 and V8 stock ibanez pickups.


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post Dec 7 2008, 06:24 PM
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http://www.jemsite.com/jem/wood.htm

This page helped me quite a lot. Also mahogany has a deeper sound and bass wood has a smoother sound.
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QUOTE (Matt23 @ Dec 7 2008, 06:24 PM) *
http://www.jemsite.com/jem/wood.htm

This page helped me quite a lot. Also mahogany has a deeper sound and bass wood has a smoother sound.



Good one, man. smile.gif
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QUOTE (ChrisVdS @ Dec 7 2008, 05:01 PM) *
would they sound much different in my Ibanez RG (basswood) then let's say in a Les Paul (mohogany) using the same amp with same settings??

Yes there would be a difference. Basswood will sound warm with lots of mids. Mahogany will give sustain, warmth and full.
i have pieces of mahogany and maple in my garage, you can tell a lot just by knocking on it with your knuckles.


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QUOTE (MickeM @ Dec 7 2008, 06:29 PM) *
i have pieces of mahogany and maple in my garage, you can tell a lot just by knocking on it with your knuckles.


I think that's a great example. Of course it cannot tell how the guitars will sound from that part of the wood, but it can make a pretty cool and accurate comparison of different woods.

Also not all wood is of the same quality. Wood goes through a process of drying before build, the bigger the drying process, the better the wood will be and better the sound should be. All wood for good guitars are kept in storage for drying for some time before entering to the guitar making process. Even the same kind of wood is tested for quality and best pieces are chosen for more expensive guitars.


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