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post Dec 21 2008, 08:52 PM
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It has come to my attention that I need to work on memorizing the fret board for notes and start learning the notes by ear. The fretboard can be done pretty simply but I need a good way to start memorizing notes by ear. Any advice?


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post Dec 21 2008, 08:54 PM
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post Dec 21 2008, 10:03 PM
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I suggest you first focus to learn the notes on the fretboard well, and then the ear training is much more effective. You will simply tie the sound of a note with position on the fretboard. Also try to remember the intervals withing the patterns and develop relative ear. If you know your intervals well and know exactly how notes sounds in the area around the neck you are currently playing you will have better understanding what to play next. This understanding comes with time so take your time and first learn properly the notes and intervals (numbers) on the fretboard. Engrave the patterns in your head, and ear training will come natural.


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post Dec 21 2008, 10:34 PM
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There is couple of approaches you could do here but the main one is (sorry I have to say this) is sing back everything you play!
That goes anywhere from scales, pentatonics, modes, patterns, licks, sequences etc.

Learn about intervals and sing the intervals in sequences or all in relation to one note.

Ideal practice should be taking songs out by ear , anywhere from small sections to complete parts.

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post Dec 22 2008, 04:24 AM
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I don't fully understand...you're trying to learn the fretboard notes by ear as you have absolute pitch?
The only good way that I know to memorice notes on the fretboard is the scales and the diagonals. The concept of diagonals is explained in the picture with dots of different colors (three diagonals total). The example is about E but you have to do it with every note.
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post Dec 22 2008, 05:58 AM
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http://www.amazon.com/Guitar-Fretboard-Wor...3941&sr=8-1

This is a great book!

edit: whoops, you were talking about ear training. what about this? http://www.musictheory.net/trainers/html/id90_en.html

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post Dec 22 2008, 02:46 PM
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I believe I'm the villain to this confusion as I didn't fully explain my philosophy to Rain in the chat.

This is how I now try to learn the fretboard:

Start with any interval, I'd prefer perfect fifths because they're the easiest and a good opener.

Start on the sixth string and play any fifth pattern, like a normal power chord or w/e and really look at the fretboard and sing the notes. Move up a halfstep, play the same pattern and sing the notes. This way you'll learn to recognize that an interval from E to B is a perfect fifth + you'll learn where they're located on the fretboard. You should do this with any pattern (Like fifth fret on the sixth string and second fret on the D string for A - E). All over the fretboard with every interval. Make sure to do this chromatically up and down, learn the enharmonic spellings. Check with a book or something that you're saying the right notes (or check with us if you want). When you know this pretty good, start doing random rounds of the intervals. Just pick a note and sing the note and a fifth up like: You happen to pick a Bb. Then sing a F. Next time maybe you pick a G and you could sing a perfect fifth below, which would be C, and always check with your guitar.

The benefit from doing this is: You'll learn the notes on the fretboard and when you hear a song or something, you'll immidietly be able to play it (providing you have the techniques necessary) in any key.

You should also do this with chords. For instance; play a C. Then sing C E G and play it on the guitar to check yourself.

And don't be to picky about singing perfectly in tune. You've got to hit the note C when you're supposed to and not another tone, that's important. But perfectly in tune isn't necessary, just somewhat correct.

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post Dec 23 2008, 11:17 AM
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QUOTE (Rain @ Dec 21 2008, 11:52 AM) *
It has come to my attention that I need to work on memorizing the fret board for notes and start learning the notes by ear. The fretboard can be done pretty simply but I need a good way to start memorizing notes by ear. Any advice?


Kinda cheesy, but http://www.good-ear.com/ is a good way to quiz yourself about stuff
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