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Ramiro Delforte
post Jan 7 2009, 06:33 AM
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I'm going to bring some information about the double flat and double sharp notes.
These double alterations are enharmonic names of other notes.

Double flats

Cbb = Bb or A#
Dbb = C
Ebb = D
Fbb = Eb or D#
Gbb = F
Abb = G
Bbb = A

Double sharps (The simbol of the double sharp is like a cross, here I'm going to use two numerals instead)

C## = D
D## = E
E## = F# or Gb
F## = G
G## = A
A## = G
B## = C# or Db

So now you can see that the double alterations are the same note but with another name. This theory is useful when you have a scale like G# major.

G# A# B# C# D# E# F## G#

This scale is exactly the same as Ab major

Ab Bb C Db Eb F G Ab

Usually you'll be using the Ab scale and avoid the G#, but that doesn't matter. The theory to make the G# uses a double alteration. Let's see other example but with a double flat: Fb major.

Fb Gb Ab Bbb Cb Db Eb Fb

This scale is exactly the same as E

E F# G# A B C# D# E

The explanation to the construction of chords with double alteration is simple too.
Imagine you want to build an augmented chord from C.
So I imagine everybody knows that the answer would be C- E- G# (root- major third- augmented fifth)
Now, I want to build an augmented triad but this time starting on C#.
The answer would be C#- E#- G## (root- major third- augmented fifth). The trick is here. Some of you could think "oh! but the G## is an A". That's true but the name A corresponds to the sixth of C so in that case it would be the minor sixth (C#- A) and not the augmented fifth (C#- G##). So the notes are the same but they are named different.

I wish that will help you to understand the double alterations.
I posted this information because Enforcer told me that there wasn't a post about this theme. I hope this serves to everybody.

Be free to ask any questions about.
Good luck.
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post Jan 12 2009, 01:02 AM
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QUOTE (Ramiro Delforte @ Jan 7 2009, 07:33 AM) *
I'm going to bring some information about the double flat and double sharp notes.
These double alterations are enharmonic names of other notes.

Double flats

Cbb = Bb or A#
Dbb = C
Ebb = D
Fbb = Eb or D#
Gbb = F
Abb = G
Bbb = A

Double sharps (The simbol of the double sharp is like a cross, here I'm going to use two numerals instead)

C## = D
D## = E
E## = F# or Gb
F## = G
G## = A
A## = G
B## = C# or Db

So now you can see that the double alterations are the same note but with another name. This theory is useful when you have a scale like G# major.

G# A# B# C# D# E# F## G#

This scale is exactly the same as Ab major

Ab Bb C Db Eb F G Ab

Usually you'll be using the Ab scale and avoid the G#, but that doesn't matter. The theory to make the G# uses a double alteration. Let's see other example but with a double flat: Fb major.

Fb Gb Ab Bbb Cb Db Eb Fb

This scale is exactly the same as E

E F# G# A B C# D# E

The explanation to the construction of chords with double alteration is simple too.
Imagine you want to build an augmented chord from C.
So I imagine everybody knows that the answer would be C- E- G# (root- major third- augmented fifth)
Now, I want to build an augmented triad but this time starting on C#.
The answer would be C#- E#- G## (root- major third- augmented fifth). The trick is here. Some of you could think "oh! but the G## is an A". That's true but the name A corresponds to the sixth of C so in that case it would be the minor sixth (C#- A) and not the augmented fifth (C#- G##). So the notes are the same but they are named different.

I wish that will help you to understand the double alterations.
I posted this information because Enforcer told me that there wasn't a post about this theme. I hope this serves to everybody.

Be free to ask any questions about.
Good luck.
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Thank you man, that lesson surely enlightened a very mistery about the music theory for me, and I am glad you clarified that. It wasn't hard, but its always hard when you dont know it biggrin.gif

Before this lesson I was using G and G# in the same scale notation and I see now that was incorrect.

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post Jan 12 2009, 01:51 AM
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yes, it's true. This is very helpfull Ramiro.
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post Jan 12 2009, 11:26 PM
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I'm glad you liked this little theory help.
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