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post Jan 15 2009, 11:21 PM
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Thats absolutely fine man, no worries what so ever. I'll update the weeks schedule now. smile.gif

QUOTE (Bondy @ Jan 15 2009, 09:55 PM) *
I'm really not enjoying the blues lesson so if its ok with you I have swapped to the alice in chains lesson biggrin.gif



I have updated the Schedule for this week, have a look mate smile.gif

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I'm really not enjoying the blues lesson so if its ok with you I have swapped to the alice in chains lesson biggrin.gif



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post Jan 17 2009, 01:33 AM
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Are you finding everything ok man?


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post Jan 17 2009, 01:35 PM
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Not to bad seems to be slow progress this week not picking it up as fast as I would like! I will post a video on Sunday or Monday.


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post Jan 17 2009, 10:44 PM
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No problem man, I'll leave you to it if you like smile.gif

Just wanted to make sure you wouldn't have prefered a slightly easier tapping exercise? That one I've given you literally took me a fortnight just to get to play it all the way through cleanly, not even at any speed! So it might have been a bit adventurous.

I can arrange it into a 3 string pattern like you did last week if that would be easier?

Just want to know if I've overloaded you. This is a learning experience for both of us so I need to know if I'm pushing you too hard smile.gif

Thanks for your hard work over the last couple of weeks man smile.gif

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Not to bad seems to be slow progress this week not picking it up as fast as I would like! I will post a video on Sunday or Monday.



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You mean sweeping exercise I hope, LOL no there's no problem your not overloading me just had alot going on this week with work,(Curse of being self employed) so I have found it hard to practise like i did last week but I will get on the case and try and post something in the next day or so biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif


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post Jan 17 2009, 11:34 PM
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Absolutely no pressure man! Just wanted to check smile.gif

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You mean sweeping exercise I hope, LOL no there's no problem your not overloading me just had alot going on this week with work,(Curse of being self employed) so I have found it hard to practise like i did last week but I will get on the case and try and post something in the next day or so biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif



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post Jan 19 2009, 10:54 AM
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I sucky suck bad this week you will not want to pay me $10 laugh.gif

I have found it hard this week trying to get the Alice in Chains video up but can't get a half decent take, Here's my progress with lesson 2 sweeping though.

Attached File  Sweeoing_2.wmv ( 349.46K ) Number of downloads: 68


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post Jan 19 2009, 01:27 PM
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Well after a week of hard time with work, you've exceeded my expectations mate!

It's a tricky step, going from last weeks lesson to this weeks. 3 string sweeping to 5 string sweeping, including right hand pausing with the hammer ons, pull offs - is not easy stuff. This is advanced in anybodies eyes.

The great thing about this kind of practising though its hugely rewarding. It may take a lot of time and patience to truely develop a consitent level of playing at moderate speeds, but it will help speed up those fingers for lots of other playing styles. You should also notice that you naturally begin to fret the strings quite lightly - this is an important progression when playing fast. You won't be able to fret the notes with the same level of pressure that you would for slower playing.

I wanted to give you this exercise early on in the MTP because you will see results over a reasonably stretched out time period, so you can practice it along with other things for a little part of your practice regiem smile.gif

As far as advice goes for your current playing:
Left hand fingering looks spot on, what I would advice is trying to bring your thumb under the neck more. It may feel counter intuitive because you have less grip, but it will make the stretches easier to do fast and will naturally feel better playing lighter. Maybe make a concious effort to bring the thumb around in small increments daily, to make it less alien completley switching.

Great work on the picking hand! This, in my view, is one of the hardest parts of learning to sweep. So it's great you're taking a natural shine to this method. Keep it fluid and smooth, just like you're doing now smile.gif


Looking forward to your take on Alice in Chains style video. We have a few days left before week 3 so I would suggest making an upload of your current progress just to see if there are any areas to advice on before week 3 kicks in smile.gif

If you're finding you have less time due to work at the moment, I can factor that in to the weeks practise schedule.

Also, have you had a chance to glance at Andrews section?

QUOTE (Bondy @ Jan 19 2009, 09:54 AM) *
I sucky suck bad this week you will not want to pay me $10 laugh.gif

I have found it hard this week trying to get the Alice in Chains video up but can't get a half decent take, Here's my progress with lesson 2 sweeping though.

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post Jan 19 2009, 02:08 PM
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Thanks for the positive comments I thought I had achieved nothing this week, I will try and take your suggestions on board and move that thumb around abit. biggrin.gif


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post Jan 19 2009, 03:25 PM
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Just give it a try in few different positions, at the end of the day its down to how you find it the most comfortable to play. A lot of people find it easier to move the thumb under the neck, I myself have quite huge SPIDER!! fingers so often play with my thumb similar to you smile.gif

There are lots of elements of guitar that even professionals play completely differently to the next, so yes, don't ever strictly follow other's advice if it doesn't feel right to you smile.gif

It's difficult when you're starting a new technique as its impossible to know what works the "best" for you. You have to learn one way reasonably well before seeing if other ways are easier.


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Thanks for the positive comments I thought I had achieved nothing this week, I will try and take your suggestions on board and move that thumb around abit. biggrin.gif



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post Jan 20 2009, 08:24 PM
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Hey man smile.gif Just want to give you a gentle push into recording a take of this weeks lesson, just to see how you're doing mate.

Need to assess your current progress to make decisions about next weeks lesson.

Cheers Craig.

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Thanks for the positive comments I thought I had achieved nothing this week, I will try and take your suggestions on board and move that thumb around abit. biggrin.gif



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Will post a take on Wednesday afternoon Adam been flat out today, I cant record at night due to the kids being in bed biggrin.gif


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post Jan 20 2009, 09:58 PM
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Thats cool man smile.gif no worries, just wanted to get a feeling for how you're doing - I know its been a busy week and all, thats no problem. Still good to be able to advice you on your progress.

Do you think this week will be similar? I can rearrange the schedule for less guitar hours. Also have you had the chance to go over Andrew's lessons?

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Ok Adam got a few takes here,
My first Alice in Chains Upload part lesson no backing,
Lesson 1 Sweeping at 120bpm mistakes but i think it shows progress;
Sweeping lesson 2 at 60bpm was like 30bpm the other day so an improvement there still mistakes there though.

Attached File  Alice_in_Chains_part_lesson.wmv ( 1.63MB ) Number of downloads: 62



Attached File  Sweeping_120bpm.wmv ( 2.13MB ) Number of downloads: 61



Attached File  Sweeping_2__60bpm.wmv ( 1.21MB ) Number of downloads: 54



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post Jan 21 2009, 01:36 PM
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Thanks for doing that Bondy, much appreciated. smile.gif

Alice In Chains -

It's difficult to tell with the video, but are you exclusively using downstrokes for this lesson? If so, great as it looks like Gabriel does this through out the song.

My advice would be to get used to playing this with the backing track, or a metronome - just to sort out some small timing issues. I'm not sure if you do usually do this, as I know recording with backing track and guitar can be difficult on webcams.

There's a small discrepancy when playing the licks in video 2 on gabriels lesson. If you could listen to that video, and compare with how you're playing it I'm sure you'll see what I mean. There's a second, 2nd fret on the low E that needs to be voiced smile.gif

Good job on the pinched harmonic by the way! They are very tricky so it shows skill smile.gif

Your progress is going well on this lesson, I'd love to hear you giving the solo part a try as well. This would be much easier to get down right when playing along with the backing. I would also suggest slowing down the tempo in GuitarPro and playing along with the "click" metronome and Midi of the the lesson.


Sweeping Lesson 1, 120bpm -


Great progress here! The timing issues are getting much better, that pulloff note is almost there in being the same duration as the others. Have you been practising this with a metronome? I'm going to keep drilling the metronome my friend as it an essential way to learn biggrin.gif We're going for very fluid playing here, so you may find it usefull to slow down a bit with a lower metronome speed. Then build up gradually to 120bpm. Not too low as you are almost there man. Maybe set it at 90bpm, allow yourself to make 2 complete passes of the piece where you're comfortable that its all in time, then set it up 10bpm and repeat.
This is a good method when learning anything up to speed. It is also recommended to actually attempt tempo's that are higher than you intend to play.

For example if your target speed is 120bpm, it is worth attempting 130, 140. Not to get them perfect at these speeds, but just to get your fingers more comfortable playing it at the lower speed. It will get it imprinted in your muscle memory at a slightly higher tempo, so when playing at a slower speed - its much more comfortable and natural.



Sweeping lesson 2, 60bpm -

As I said last week, this really is a lesson to take slowly, so the fact that you haven't had time to really push yourself at this lesson is actually a good thing. We want it to go in to your muscle memory CORRECTLY. I learnt this piece TOO quickly and TOO fast. This left me spending more than twice the initial learning time, correcting bad habits, which is very frustrating I can tell you! So yes, take it nice and slowly as you are doing and guess what? Metronome please smile.gif heh.
One arpeggio at a time before speeding this up is probably best mate, because we want to be able to link them together before pushing the tempo up. Give the different shapes a try when you can.

I will also give you the names of all of these shapes as it will help you a lot when wanting to write your own sweeping patterns, or use some in collabs smile.gif

One technical note to point out that should help: I couldn't tell precisely from the video, but it looks like your right hand is above the strings most of the sweeping exercise? You want to be able to mute unwanted string noise so it's best to try to get used to havng your wrist resting on the lower strings and moving up with your sweep to mute the string that you've played previously.

For example you would play the first note on the A string, then play the note on the D string while simultaneously muting the A string you just played.


I hope all this makes sense, if you have any questions or doubts, as always do ask. I know this week has been difficult with work taking up a lot more time than you thought, so overall great job on still getting some good work down on these lessons smile.gif

QUOTE (Bondy @ Jan 20 2009, 10:14 PM) *
Ok Adam got a few takes here,
My first Alice in Chains Upload part lesson no backing,
Lesson 1 Sweeping at 120bpm mistakes but i think it shows progress;
Sweeping lesson 2 at 60bpm was like 30bpm the other day so an improvement there still mistakes there though.

Attached File  Alice_in_Chains_part_lesson.wmv ( 1.63MB ) Number of downloads: 62



Attached File  Sweeping_120bpm.wmv ( 2.13MB ) Number of downloads: 61



Attached File  Sweeping_2__60bpm.wmv ( 1.21MB ) Number of downloads: 54



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yep been using the metronome in gp biggrin.gif thanks for the comments biggrin.gif

Just to clarify the only reason I did not use the backing on the A,I,C lesson was because i recorded at night and i cant figure out how to get the backing track to record on my webcam, whilst using headphones and i no longer have my fastrack pro, sold it because i thought i could use gearbox doh!!!

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Ah yes I have that problem mate. I don't know if you can make a direct "what the computer hears" recording using Gearbox, I used to be able to with my old Live! hardware on my old PC.

The way I do it is request the backing track from the author (I can contact Gabriel If you like) and insert it into a multitrack DAW software. Do you have any software that could be used?

The only problem then is I have issues synching up the audio to video feeds. I have to use Adobe Premier to align up the audio track and video track, and then for simplicity use Windows Movie Maker to convert to a smaller internet friendly video size.

It's a complicated process! Really should find out if there's a simpler way to do it.

Keep rocking with that metronome, and I'll set-up Week Three's plan tomorrow, as today has been a bit hectic here!


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yep been using the metronome in gp biggrin.gif thanks for the comments biggrin.gif

Just to clarify the only reason I did not use the backing on the A,I,C lesson was because i recorded at night and i cant figure out how to get the backing track to record on my webcam, whilst using headphones and i no longer have my fastrack pro, sold it because i thought i could use gearbox doh!!!


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Week 3

Right Bondy, this week we're BREAKING OUT! ... off the Syllabus lessons tongue.gif and I want us to concentrate on something new and different. We've covered sweeping, tapping, rhythm, timing and more! Now its time to move on to.... ALTERNATE PICKING!!

You lucky lucky guy you smile.gif

So I wanted to basically give you a head start on next weeks lesson, which will be Muris' Alternate Picking Thirds, and give you some nice and simple alternate picking practice exercises.

So onwards we go!


Alternate Picking Basics:


Now before we go on, I'd like to briefy describe what exactly Alternate Picking is. It's very simple to explain, but much harder to use in practice. It essentially means that every single pick follows this pattern: Down, Up, Down, Up, Down, Up and so on.

Now you may be thinking, yeah? And what?! I do that already! And that may be true for some of the time, but the difficulty is keeping it alternate ALL the time.

For example try this: Play the first arpeggio from the 3 string sweeping lesson I gave you using sweep picking, then attempt it with alternate picking.

The first note (12th fret on the G) is played with a Down pick, the second note (13th fret on the cool.gif is played with an Up, the third note (12th fret on the E) is played with a Down pick, the fourth note (15th fret on the E) is played with an Up.

Obviously for this example we're not playing it with a hammer on as we have been doing previously, but this should give you a feel for how different it is to play using alternate picking.

So thats what it is, now lets use it smile.gif


Activity 1

Palm Mute Workout
This lesson is just pure awesome. Dejan's done an outstanding piece for palm muting, but I personally feel this is a fantastic lesson for alternate picking too. Remember this week, and especially early on in learning alternate picking isn't about playing fast. I want to make sure you understand the technique and have a natural feel for it before pushing the tempo over the edge.

Now I'm not expecting you to learn all of this lesson, as I mainly want you to focus on the picking technique opposed to the piece its self. So I would suggest learning up to video 4, before he moves the position up to the higher strings.

I've recorded a couple of takes to help you as you're learning it, to make sure you get the picking technique spot on.

Attached File  Palm_Muting_lesson.wmv ( 16.78MB ) Number of downloads: 57


This video also has a little bit at the end where I show you how it should be palyed with the left hand, and how it shouldn't.

It's an example of how much easier and fluid fretting becomes when positioning the thumb under the fretboard, notice that when I have my thumb up along side the fretboard, all my fretting fingers have to work MUCH harder to get to the frets on time. This makes it easier to make timing mistakes and wear out your finger stamina when playing faster.

Activity 2


Alternate picking Exercise 1
Attached File  alternate_picking_exercise.wmv ( 9.21MB ) Number of downloads: 49

Attached File  Alternate_picking_exercise.gp5 ( 1.68K ) Number of downloads: 46


Here's a second, slightly more demanding exercise for using alternate picking. Mainly becuase occasionally there are times moving from string to string where it might feel more easy to play a second downstroke, or a second upstroke. This, you are NOT ALLOWED to do. I PROHIBIT such ideas and thoughts about doing so. tongue.gif

Pay attention to the down and up stroke markings in the GP5 file, The rectangular symbol represents a downstroke and a V represents an Upstroke.

Easy way to make sure you've manage to play the piece using the correct picking method is to insure that a downstroke is played on every beat, or repeat of the exercise. If you started it wit a downstroke, and end up playing the beginning of it when repeating with an Upstroke, you've gone wrong somewhere.


You still haven't mentioned if you've had time to go over Andrew's Theory lessons so if you could let me know if you have or not, or if you'd like any help with it or an "Ajmurrell trademark Quiz" on the lessons.

If you have I'll post the next ones to look at over this week, if not... Well, I shall have to take appropraite action. biggrin.gif

I've kept it nice and simple for this week, because I know you're having trouble with finding as much time for guitar with work pressure. This week is really all about making next weeks lesson a lot easier.

Next week I'll give you the rest of the sweeping piece and possibly another tapping piece as it will be the last week of our wonderful mentoring partnership and will want to leave you with Ajmurrell things to do if I don't go further in the MTP smile.gif

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Those are some cool lessons there i look forward to learning them thanks Adam, on the theory side I have read the first part but i'm gonna go over it a few more times to let it sink in.


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Thanks smile.gif

With these lessons it may be a good idea to upload a take (at least with the second exercise as it's faster to learn) once you've got the fingering right.

This way I can point out any bad picking habits out before they it starts to sink in to muscle memory. If you do upload a take, play slowly for me to see the picking hand please biggrin.gif

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