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post Jan 25 2009, 12:55 PM
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Hey Adam here is a slow video of the alt picking exercise, also i'm close to doing a video of the palm mute exercise upto video 4, plus a video on the john fruscantie lesson which I did anyway just for fun

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post Jan 25 2009, 04:14 PM
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Cheers mate,

I've got my other half round till monday morning, so will try to get some feedback to you before the end of the day.

Thanks for sending me some stuff though smile.gif

Also, sorry if you've been working in advance towards the Frusciante Lesson, and I ended up not putting in the weeks schedule!

Great to see you're doing more than I give you though, keep it up! tongue.gif

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Hey Adam here is a slow video of the alt picking exercise, also i'm close to doing a video of the palm mute exercise upto video 4, plus a video on the john fruscantie lesson which I did anyway just for fun

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post Jan 26 2009, 03:12 PM
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Hi Bondy,

Nice job on going for the Frusciante lesson as well this week, picked it up very quickly I might add too!

Just have a couple of points about your playing, but overall this is certainly a level that you are comfortable with.

One point would be with muting strings you don't want playing. There are a couple of instances where you bend a note, or add some vibrato and this picks up some unwanted string noise from the other strings. With bends this can be because your finger nail can pinch the string above when you start to release the bend, or just because you're touching it as you move your other fingers in to the next position.

Try to assess what causes this unwanted noise to stop it from happening, more often than not this can be done by using your picking hand. Just try to keep the strings below the ones you are playing muted with your palm, this will minimise string noise. On the odd occasion when you might be getting string noise from the strings above where you're playing, it's not possible to mute with your palm as this would mute the strings you want to ring out. Here try to mute the strings using your fretting fingers, by lightly pressing against them being careful not to push hard enough to fret unwanted notes.

My second point would be towards your vibrato, and this is something that we can always work on at whatever level we're at. You seem to be using quite fast movements which might be counter productive in producing a nice vibrato, although it is good practise for getting used to be able to move your fingers in this way. I'd suggest trying to slow the virbato speed down, but using a wider vibrato at the same time. This way you'll get a nice feel for what sounds good and its suprising how less, is more sometimes with this technique smile.gif

Keep going on this one, would love to see how it progresses during the end of the week!

As for the alternate picking take, I'm struggling to work out if it's definitely all alternate picked because when I load that video in VLC, it seems to be a bit pixelated! So can't be sure if you are doing it perfect, or have a few mistakes biggrin.gif

Would it be possible to have another take, with just how picking hand in view and go as slow as you can go? This would be very helpful smile.gif

As far as I can tell though this is a good start, and the right hand wrist looks good in the motion you're using as the movements coming from the wrist, and not from the forearm which is GOOD.

I would say that most of the notes have a slight sticatto on them which is not needed, and when speeded up might sound a bit strange if thats not what we're aiming for. Sticcato alternate picking is actually a very cool technique but we have to be able to use both and use either when we want to smile.gif
By this I would suggest trying to let each note ring for their full duration, try to keep the gap between two notes sounding as minimal as possible.

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post Jan 27 2009, 11:37 AM
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Here's another take on the John Fruscantie lesson, was just about to do the others then the battery went dead on my camera mad.gif so will try and do them later on.




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post Jan 27 2009, 01:19 PM
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Nice work man smile.gif Slowed that vibrato down nicely, does it feel better? I notice you speed up the vibrato towards teh end of the note which can have a really nice effect with increasing intensity. Vibrato is one of those things that is personal to each and every guitarist, and really, if you ever really like your vibrato and someone else is saying to maybe widen it, or slow it down - you should keep it personal smile.gif

Of course it's good practice to give different vibrato types a go before deciding what feels good to you, and different intensities and styles will work better in different styles.

Great work on cleaning up those unwanted string noises too biggrin.gif That was quick work mate! heh. Timing sounds very good too.

Only thing I could say to look at would be your picking, I notice you play exclusively down strokes and its good practice to try and use up strokes as well. Gabriel does indeed play most of this with downstrokes because it is fairly slow and you get a stronger accent on the notes using downpicks, but in the more complex parts (video 5 for example) some up strokes are used.

There are at least two good reasons for trying to encorporate up and down strokes when you can, and these would be timing and conserving energy. You'll find it much more comfortable to play longer pieces and timing will feel much more natural too.

This isn't to say it should be strictly alternate picked, but using up strokes in sequence to downstrokes where it makes playing more comfortable and natural is where it should be applied smile.gif

Looking forward to the alternate picking takes! Remeber, really close in on that picking hand!! biggrin.gif

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post Jan 28 2009, 04:14 PM
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Hey man,

Just was thinking it might be a usefull process for me to ask you a few questions about how you've found me as a mentor over the last few weeks. Would you be willing to do that? It would be good for me to understand where I can improve, as this is as much a learning experience for me as it is for you!

I plan on teaching locally again in the next few months, and I have done so in the past - but not with the results I would have liked.

Motivation is one of the areas I want to really home in on and try to improve, I'd love to know if with your experience there could have been ways I could have better caught your interest? For example some other mentors have given side exercises as songs from artists they like and would like to learn to play, or have been more engauged in creating quiz like homework for theory topics?

I mainly ask as if selected to go further in this project, I would like to start a mentoring each student with a small questionaire, which would help indicate what kind of mentoring style would work best.

I don't mind any comments, so don't feel obliged to say nice things! biggrin.gif I'm sure it will also prove usefull for judging in the next couple of weeks, so be as honest as you can in regards to future people I could mentor smile.gif

Thanks Bondy! Great work so far, looking forward to the next batch of vids!



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Good job Adam and Bondy! You are doing wonderful!

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post Jan 28 2009, 05:39 PM
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Thanks Can smile.gif I've wanted to break in to peoples threads and say how cool the lessons are and how people are improving and things many times!

You doing a great job too mate smile.gif Makes me want to start playing Phantom of the opera again!

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post Jan 28 2009, 06:51 PM
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Yeah no problems Adam ask away, To be honest I have had a blast, the way you have mentored me was spot on. Cant really think of any bad things to say .


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post Jan 29 2009, 01:11 AM
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Well thank you very much smile.gif You've been just as fun to mentor!


Can't believe its week 4 already sad.gif I'll have some good stuff for you tomorrow man, maybe a bit more than you need for one week - but it might be the end for me mentoring, so wanted to leave you with some cool things smile.gif

Rest of that sweeping lesson for sure, some tapping things, Muris' alternate picking thirds biggrin.gif

Let's really put our all in to the next week man, lots of focused guitar attention!!

Could you try to record last weeks things for me too? Just so I can plan out tomorrows schedule to your progress. Cheers mate.

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Yeah no problems Adam ask away, To be honest I have had a blast, the way you have mentored me was spot on. Cant really think of any bad things to say .


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post Jan 29 2009, 05:00 PM
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Week 4

The final trial week is upon us Bondy smile.gif
I've decided to keep this week a little simpler than previously thought as, to be honest this weeks Alternate picking lesson is MORE than enough for one week, and I'm throwing in the rest of that sweeping exercise from a week or two ago as well tongue.gif

Alternate picking is one of those techniques that you want to get right first time, as I said last week. This is one technique that is a right #@$!$% to unlearn if you get it wrong the first time, as I am finding out! biggrin.gif

Let's get to work!




Activity 1

Alternate Picking - Thirds
This is a great lesson for practising alternate picking in one of its hardest forms in my opinion. Three notes per string means that you start each progressive string with a different pick stroke. For example if you started a three note per string pattern on the low E, then moved up to the A for the next three notes - the first of the notes on the low E would begin with a downstroke, and the first of the notes on the A would begin with an upstroke.

This may not sound too complicated, but personally I found it a difficult concept as I naturally wanted to just start each string with a downstroke.

Don't do this here!

You may come across some stretches that are a bit tough, so if you experience any pain when performing them, give yourself a break and let your hands recover. You shouldn't work to the point of pain, so next time practise over a shorter time.

With this lesson for this week I would like you to learn it first at 60bpm, and once you're comfortable with that, then we'll increase speed. Don't worry how long that takes, if it takes the week so be it. We want to get this done right smile.gif


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Rest of sweep picking exercise 2
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I've added the rest of the sweeping positions for this little exercise, some of these last few chord shapes are the hardest here, so be careful to practice them slowly to begin with smile.gif

Sorry my playing in the video is a bit sloppy, its been a while since I've practised these ones. I've uploaded the slow playing video as I've run out of enough upload space for the moment! But you should be able to see the fingering positions nicely in this video.


Also any video's you've got left to upload like the tapping from week 1 and the AIC solo and last weeks alternate picking exercises. smile.gif

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Hey Adam here is the alt picking exercise you gave sorry its a bit dark looked fine before i you tubed it. Anyway just wanted to show my progress will be uploading Palm mute workout soon, the wifes dragging me out to buy paint in a minute so will do that this afternoon.



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post Jan 30 2009, 01:08 PM
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Nice work man smile.gif

Just be carefull when speeding up to eliminate excess string noise as you push up the tempo gradually.

You may also find that as you increase your speed, it may be easier to allow your wrist to do most of the motion and leave the thumb locked in position on your picking hand.

Great work though, well done!


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Hey Adam here is the alt picking exercise you gave sorry its a bit dark looked fine before i you tubed it. Anyway just wanted to show my progress will be uploading Palm mute workout soon, the wifes dragging me out to buy paint in a minute so will do that this afternoon.




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Ok Adam here's my first video of palm mute lesson upto video 4, it's dog rough but gotta get something down, I did use a metronome but you cant hear it, felt i needed to get something down so I can start alt picking thirds, I have enough material here fo another month laugh.gif



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post Jan 31 2009, 12:14 AM
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Heh, I might have overloaded you tongue.gif Sorry if thats the case!

Nice job so far on the palm muting lesson, got all the right notes down and ready to build on it.

Now for the comments: biggrin.gif

I notice a few things I'd like to pick up on, and the first thing I'd point out is that you're not using alternate picking all the time with this lesson. Is there a reason for this or did you not realise I wanted you to practice using this picking technique for this lesson?

I ask because if you are having issues with alternate picking when using different strings, I can try to help you out with it.

The second point would be that you could make things a lot easier on your fretting hand by bringing that thumb further behind the neck. Do you remember the video I posted along side the lesson? At the end I show an example of how much more the left hand has to move when the thumb is not placed behind the neck. You do not always have to play in this way, but when stretches are involved, especially lower down the neck, it makes life much much easier.

Great to see your progress, keep going!


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Ok Adam here's my first video of palm mute lesson upto video 4, it's dog rough but gotta get something down, I did use a metronome but you cant hear it, felt i needed to get something down so I can start alt picking thirds, I have enough material here fo another month laugh.gif




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I thought I was using alternate picking! I must of slipped up while recording just wanted to get it down without making fretting errors, with regards to my thumb to be honest the neck is a bit too thick for me thats why i'm struggling to get round there. This guitar is just a go between I'm saving up for a Jackson SL1, I sold all my other guitars to go towards the fund so this will have to do for now. I will try harder to get it right though.


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Nice guitar you're going for! Never played a Jackson before but certainly heard a lot love them smile.gif

In regards to your picking, if you watch the video you posted you'll notice that at the 18 second mark and 28 mark you break out of the alternate picking cycle.

I can understand its hard to notice when playing, because you already have a built in picking tecnhique in your muscle memory. This is great, and shows you put a lot of practice and can play with confidence when learning new licks and riffs.

The problem with learning different picking techniques lyes here really, because you have an ingrained existing technique, as you begin to speed up your playing you'll find that you can go back to a technique you're more used to.

Thats why its especially important when learning new picking techniques to take it slow untill it feels comfortable before raising the speed. It may test your patience! I'd describe it as learning another language. It's true that you can already speak a language well, but learning another one will open new doors and ways to communicate.

Hope this helps smile.gif

If you ever have doubs as to whether or not you're using the right technique, just slow it down and take a look and make sure every single pick follows the Up, down, Up, down etc.


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I thought I was using alternate picking! I must of slipped up while recording just wanted to get it down without making fretting errors, with regards to my thumb to be honest the neck is a bit too thick for me thats why i'm struggling to get round there. This guitar is just a go between I'm saving up for a Jackson SL1, I sold all my other guitars to go towards the fund so this will have to do for now. I will try harder to get it right though.



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Ok Adam here's my progress with Alt picking thirds this ones tough, just trying to get the patterns down.

On another note I would like to say that you have been a great mentor and over the past 4 weeks I beleive I hae seen a good improvement in my skills, so thankyou very much for all your help i'm sure you will get through to the next stage. biggrin.gif



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Good evening man smile.gif

Sorry for the delay, been a dramatic day!

I passed my driving theory though, aced it with 49/50! Woop.


I have to say, very impressed with your take. I'll admit I was a little concerned with the alternate picking in your previous video but im sure thats down to a mistake when recording as your alternate picking is perfect in this take. Thats the most important thing in this lesson, getting the picking right.

Keep going mate! Excellent progress.

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How are those handbrake turns coming along?!


Sorry to break in buddy, but you got me with this question laugh.gif

Find a wide and empty road closed to traffic

Speed up around 50 kph, push the clutch down, drop the gear, but dont release the clutch, turn your wheel like 130 degrees, when your car have reached a 90 degree turn (you are facing the sidewalk) pull the hand breake (push the button on it and dont release it!) when your car reaches near 160 degrees start to correct the wheel position. When you reach 180 degrees, release the handbreak, release slowly the clutch and hit the gas biggrin.gif

that is how its done, and in some extreme conditions where you can do nothing else(like about to crash) it may save your life, I really believe it must be a part of basic driving lesson not a part of advanced driving technics lesson. Dont perform it anywhere in traffic though, but it is good to know how its done biggrin.gif


sorry bondy and adam, keep up the good work laugh.gif



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