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post Jan 31 2009, 03:26 AM
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jer youre making great progress... enforcer is an excellent teacher

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Jer,
I gotta say I am really impressed with your work ethic. As someone who can identify with you as having to balance a wife, kids job and a serious guitar addiction I really hope you get your playing to level that you want it to. Just wanted to say I have a lot of respect for how hard you are working. Keep it up man and you'll get ther man!!. I think you are a real inspiration for alot of players on this board, at least you should be!!. Enforcer, you are doing an awesome job as well. Good job both of you guys!!! biggrin.gif

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QUOTE (lcsdds @ Jan 31 2009, 05:39 AM) *
Jer,
I gotta say I am really impressed with your work ethic. As someone who can identify with you as having to balance a wife, kids job and a serious guitar addiction I really hope you get your playing to level that you want it to. Just wanted to say I have a lot of respect for how hard you are working. Keep it up man and you'll get ther man!!. I think you are a real inspiration for alot of players on this board, at least you should be!!. Enforcer, you are doing an awesome job as well. Good job both of you guys!!! biggrin.gif

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Jer is a great student Monte, apart his willingness and dedication, his ability to follow a scheduled program is just amazing. And also his progress is also very consistent. He is doing a great job for sure smile.gif

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jer youre making great progress... enforcer is an excellent teacher

keep up the great work


Thank you John ! smile.gif


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Here is my trooper video. Still at 75% I thought I speeded it up a bit but I guess I didnt. Regular is 160. I was at 120. My next one will be at 130 for the rhythm part. I started the solo too. I cant get the feel of it from the guitar pro file. So I lisitened to the real song and used GP tab and got the feel that way.



AIC - Getting better. Still at 75%



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Jer watch out! smile.gif

here comes the detail (devils disguise):

Theory question and application-> In what key is the Trooper? Try to detect the key and the scale for the first solo part. (Second part is different) So after finding out the key, try to find if is major or minor. And when all that is done, try to apply this on practice: Which notes can be played and which notes are forbidden?

That will help you actually practicing the solo. When you cant remember if at one point you have to press 9th or 10th fret for example, knowing that 9th fret is out of scale, will help you to remember where to put that finger...

Trooper is going well, you are still at some point of getting used to song, and you are making mistakes on easier rhythme parts because they are too easy and you loose concentration. Intro is ok, verses are ok (apart some remembering song traffic issues) but on melodies, you have some little problems try to work on that... And always buddy, when you work with anything, especially solos, try to keep the metronome beat there, as this will have a direct impact on how successiful you put that special part back to the song... For that long and slow bends, to maintain stability, try to use more than one finger...

About AIC Solo, man I fear you might need to drop it to something like %65. Once you play it perfectly without anykind of errors you might speed up a bit play it there like 100 times without error. Like you did, after you stopped you bt. But stopping the bt is not an answer, if you set your bt to a lower tempo this will either guide you, and will help you maintaining that same perfectness when you speed up. For example listen to the take near the end. You tend to slow down with difficulty building up. Well that is not a solution, as you can already play that in that speed that you are dropping to. You should keep your speed constant. If you get faster whole part must be fast, if not whole part must be slower... Try that for tonight, practice AIC Solo with %65-70 kind of speed, you'll see tomorrow you'll be playing it better with %75 biggrin.gif

All in all, you are doing great, work in progress becoming better. Dont forget Kris' bending exercise, that will help you get your bends better biggrin.gif

Cheers mate!
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Thanks for the kind words Monte and Outlaw.



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Seeing as how I had my Nightwish shirt on today I threw these in. I play these with the band. We havent played them in a while so there are some flubs. Its just for fun. Enjoy!





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Kris' Bending Exercise is done, if you are able to, I highly recommend you to send that video to January Beginner Challenge....You have very little time left, and you succeeded on this in a few days only, but even if you are unable to win that, that would be a good contribution biggrin.gif

Lets take that exercise to our warming-up arsenal and replace it with Tantarella Rock biggrin.gif

AIC video solo is also great, you may consider speeding up. Take a video with + 5/10 bpm with rhythm parts too ok?

By the way, your nightwish videos are great by the way, you prove there that you got nearly all the skills to be a great metal rhythm guitarist. Now our target is to become a great solo guitarist biggrin.gif

So your schedule for tonight is:

-Trooper Solo Workout
----10 mins getting used to positions
----10 mins getting it done

-AIC Lesson
----10 mins speed up, and gettin used to playing solo up to speed
----10 mins performing whole exercise (rhythm and solo) together up to new speed

-Tantarella Rock Lesson
----Learning the solo, Getting used to positions and setting a optimal slower rhythm



Keep up the great job buddy you are doing this perfect laugh.gif

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Sounds good man!

I'll look at the theory stuff at work this week.

Also, starting in about 2 hours my wife is out of town until Friday night.

So I'll be the only parent with a 4yr old daughter and a dog to take care of. Not to mention my normal load....

I'm still making it my goal to have a 1hr+ session each evening though. But in case something weird happens, thats why.



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Some AIC coming at ya.

1st video -35 bpm



2nd video - 30 bpm


3rd video -20 bpm


4th video -10 bpm


this is one of those days where you dont feel like you are getting anywhere.


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Are you kidding me? This actually is a great progress!!!

From the videos I can tell that your comfort zone extends to -15bpm. And you are nearly there at -10bpm!!! You nearly nailed this. Keep practicing at -15bpm until you make virtually no mistakes... (Actually you did play hardest part in -10bpm first take, but this is not a real anchor. So your target it playing this perfectly at -10 bpm and beyond. You are doing great, if you have time from regular responsabilities today I will be very happy with other videos too!

Congratz man! I started to think you are no longer a beginner with your recent strides! GMC really works laugh.gif

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Not perfect.

But I'm just stoked that I am within 10bpm of normal speed. And its DISCERNABLE!

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man its been processed for ever! I am dying here! laugh.gif


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ME TOO!!!!!



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Finally I could watch it mate! You surely dont have any problems about rhythm licks of this tune buddy. Thats being said, you should start working on the solo too:lol: You know the keyword: practice slowly and speed up gradually... And what about tantarella exercise? laugh.gif

Ok, that was a relief buddy, you are going better and better with each day, plus you started to do some speed runs with solos... laugh.gif Keep up the good work!

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I started learning the Tantarella exercise too. Just learing the parts so far. Nothing worth filming.

Yeah, I'll run thru the rhythm on the Trooper at this speed each time but I'll be focusing on the solo now.For me, if its a song I want to play the rhythm parts are important too so I hate skipoping them and focusing on a single part of the song. I have to be competant in all of it. And the rhythm is 80% of the song. But yeah, solo time now!

More tonight. And I'll be looking at the theory questions you posed today at work.



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Theory question and application-> In what key is the Trooper? Try to detect the key and the scale for the first solo part. (Second part is different) So after finding out the key, try to find if is major or minor. And when all that is done, try to apply this on practice: Which notes can be played and which notes are forbidden?


I’ll explain my thinking as I answer this. Hopefully that helps you see how I look at this stuff. That way if I am off base we can see why.

My gut tells me that everything Iron Maiden has ever written is in Emin. But that may not be true.  So lets look further into this solo here.

I’ll be using the guitar pro tab and referencing that when needed.

Okey dokey, here we go. Page 6 of the tab. The solo starts with a lick that includes the following notes. (this is the part of the solo I played before. The 1st 4 bars. Before the long repeating run)

E, D, B, A, Bb, G, C,

First thoughts:

**Starts on E. (Emin)
**Cant have B and Bb can you? The Bb is a very quick sort of passing tone though…

Lets put the notes in order starting on E.

E, G, A, Bb, B, C

What are the notes of Emin? (start on E and apply WHWWHWW)

E, F#, G, A, B, C, D

Yep, except that Bb this would fit Emin.

Thoughts so far?


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Ok, there is a problem here, the easiest place you can search for the key to the song is backing chords... Look to the same page but to the other guitar. Backing guitar is playing: E5-D5-B5-C5-D5 for the first solo and the for the second one backing is A5-G5-E5-F5-G5

That gives you these following deductions:

-The key to the solo must be E for the first solo... (The chord progression is willing to return to E note you may say where it finds its peace...)

-The scale for the solo must contain these notes:

E-B (from E5)
D-A (from D5)
B-F#(from B5)
C-G(from C5)

so you have E F# G A B C D if you write this in order. You have the Eminor scale

On the other hand for the second solo:

A-E (A5)
G-D (G5)
E-B (E5)
F-C (F5)

you have C D E F G A B this cant be Eminor as it has F instead of F#, you can easily spot here that this progression starts by A and you have the natural major scale above and its related minor is Aminor and automatically you can say this must be A minor. There you are right. This second solo is a direct modulation from E to A and the second solo is from A minor. This is an obvious characteristic maiden solo, they generally start to a solo with Emin with one guitarist than they modulate the backing solo from E to A or to G minor biggrin.gif

Hope this is useful. And by the way you can ask me why he used a Bb over E minor there. That is fairly and easy question. Generally maiden guitarist use a lot E minor pentatonic runs for fast solos. And there there are using blues scales too instead of pentatonics sometimes. Bb is the blue note, that is all. Do you remember the note that differs in pentatonic and blues scale?

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Remember what I've said before buddy, the solo actually might contain some out of scale notes. But


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I misunderstood you then.

When you said: "Try to detect the key and the scale for the first solo part."

I thought you wanted me to find the key based on the solo. I found it to be Emin.

You are saying that is correct, yes?

I hadnt looked at the 2nd solo yet. You already answered that.

What next?

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I'm familiar with the blue note in the blues scales. And that its the pentatonic scale with an extra note. But I dont know what your question is asking...


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Jackson DK2M
ESP LTD MH-400
ESP LTD EC-1000
Ibanez Custom S-Series
Martin 001 Acoustic

Handmade Marshall JCM800 50watt head (with mods)
Carvin 50x2 Stereo Tube Amp
Boss GT-10 Preamp/Effects Processor
Digitech GSP-1101 Preamp/Effects Processor
Behringer FCB1010 Midi Controlled Floorboard
Behringer Dualfex EX2200
Behinger Stereo EQ
Line 6 POD with 2.3 upgrade
Line 6 Floor Board
Line 6 Spider III Practice Amp
Nady UHF Wireless


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