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post Jan 13 2009, 02:49 PM
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Upload

I have uploaded the audio file for the strumming lesson. I'm sorry I didn't do the end as in the lesson, but I really can't imagine myself playing something like that ever, so I improvised it smile.gif

Remainder to do today

Probably will do Gabriel's lesson and the melodic solo tonight. With video and mic that is. biggrin.gif I just wanted to get this recording clean and due to technical difficulties I can't do that with video.

Theory question

Can I conclude that a the starting not of a relative minor is three half steps below it's relative major starting note?


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Oh and uhm... about the info you just gave me. No offense, but it kind of came out of nowhere tongue.gif Especially the last part I didn't really understand it's use. I hope you don't mind me giving you feedback on the teaching! I think you're doing a great job so far! Clear structure and explanations, but that last post was a bit confusing tongue.gif.

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post Jan 13 2009, 03:20 PM
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QUOTE (SonofDestiny @ Jan 13 2009, 08:49 AM) *
Upload

I have uploaded the audio file for the strumming lesson. I'm sorry I didn't do the end as in the lesson, but I really can't imagine myself playing something like that ever, so I improvised it smile.gif


Good job dude, you sound like you're playing with conviction and confidence. There are a few weak notes here and there but overall I'm impressed. Even though you don't think you'd ever need to know these types of rhythms you'll see over time - they pop up here and there and you'll be glad you have a wide array of rhythms at your disposal.

QUOTE (SonofDestiny @ Jan 13 2009, 08:49 AM) *
Remainder to do today

Probably will do Gabriel's lesson and the melodic solo tonight. With video and mic that is. biggrin.gif I just wanted to get this recording clean and due to technical difficulties I can't do that with video.

Great, can't wait. smile.gif

QUOTE (SonofDestiny @ Jan 13 2009, 08:49 AM) *
Theory question

Can I conclude that a the starting not of a relative minor is three half steps below it's relative major starting note?

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That is correct. Playing E Aeolian, 3 half steps up the guitar neck gets us to G Ionian. Good job

QUOTE (SonofDestiny @ Jan 13 2009, 08:49 AM) *
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Oh and uhm... about the info you just gave me. No offense, but it kind of came out of nowhere tongue.gif Especially the last part I didn't really understand it's use. I hope you don't mind me giving you feedback on the teaching! I think you're doing a great job so far! Clear structure and explanations, but that last post was a bit confusing tongue.gif.


The last part of the post was showing you how to figure out what scale can go with what chords, we figured out Dorian, Aeolian, and Mixolydian would work best. We took your chords, broke them down to their individual notes, and compared them with the scales. If all the notes from your chords matched the notes in the scale then we can use it. This is one thing you realllly need to understand, so if you don't get it let me know and I'll try to explain it better.

The reason I was trying to explain to you power chords is because on question 4 you said that's what you meant. It is true that the power chords you gave me would work with the E minor pentatonic. I'm trying to make you understand that an E isn't the same thing as an E5. An E5 is a power chord, an E usually is referred to as E Major. So that's the confusion there I think tongue.gif


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post Jan 13 2009, 06:32 PM
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Okay I think these uploads will have to wait. I'm getting megafrustrated on the Gabriel thing. I did it perfectly before dinner and now I screw up everytime. Grrrrrrrrrr

I have serious anger problems.... (See vid)

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post Jan 13 2009, 06:41 PM
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Well, are you listening to the advice I gave you?
Relax, don't worry about how many takes it requires, don't think about the recording button, if you make an error play through it, know that you probably won't get it perfect right away, loosen up your shoulders, arms, wrists, relaxxx.

Try it again after you take a few minutes to refresh your brain.
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post Jan 13 2009, 06:42 PM
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Yeah okay, but sorry, I can't relax right now! I wanted to have it done by now and it just frustrates me. My fingers just go everrrrrywhere, but not where I want them.

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post Jan 13 2009, 06:50 PM
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QUOTE (SonofDestiny @ Jan 13 2009, 12:42 PM) *
Yeah okay, but sorry, I can't relax right now! I wanted to have it done by now and it just frustrates me. My fingers just go everrrrrywhere, but not where I want them.


Dudeeee chill out, remember this is supposed to be fun! Don't let it burn you out, go play something else for a little while...Maybe work on some soloing since we're coming up to that soon.
In a few hours come back and try to record, if you make an error leave it. It doesn't have to be perfect. You're not competing with anyone, this is strictly for you. Infact, the next take you do - save it regardless to how many errors and post it. If you're worried about others critiquing the video you can send it to my email....
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post Jan 13 2009, 07:38 PM
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I'm not worried about that at all. It just annoys me that I can't do stuff right at the moment. And yeah, I am a perfectionist. I want to have it all 100% or rather 110% biggrin.gif


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post Jan 13 2009, 07:42 PM
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Hahha, well truthfully that's a good personal characteristic. Perfectionists seem to be the best guitarist, because the put the time in, work the hardest, and are never satisfied or content - they're always pushing themselves.
You can see this trait in athletes, they just train harder and harder, and eventually they're the best. So that's a good trait to have but for the purpose of me helping you I need to see how you're playing consistently...
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post Jan 13 2009, 07:54 PM
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Hahah aahhh you just wanted me to upload a bad take wink.gif I get it, I get it tongue.gif Hahaha. Okay okay I'll upload it then......

(Sound quality is really bad, sorry for that, but this is the best I've got recorded)

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post Jan 13 2009, 08:31 PM
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Excellent job! Sounds like your practice paid off big time..The audio was a bit difficult for me to discern but overall everything sounded pretty spot on dude! I didn't see any errors, timing was good, solo had feeling, bends were in pitch (from what I can hear hah), fingering and positioning on the guitar looked fine as well.

You might want to move the microphone away from the speakers a bit though, some serious clipping going on there.

Be careful with your pinky anchoring to the pick guard, I do it sometimes, sometimes I don't. I've heard people having problems with speed when they do this...They feel 'anchored' to the guitar body and it limits speed or expression. When I go fast I make a fist of sorts, my index and middle finger hold the pick and I leave only a small piece of the pick available to pluck the strings...I think it helps me go faster.

Over all great job dude, you seem like a very capable guitarist - we need to up the ante and give you something more challenging I believe!
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post Jan 13 2009, 08:35 PM
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Haha ahh thanks man. I'm flattered smile.gif

What's next biggrin.gif?


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post Jan 13 2009, 08:56 PM
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Part II:
Okay, rhythm is still our game here.

Dejan has a very good lesson on palm muting, riffing, and moving around in a scale. This lesson has a strong rhythm element to it but it also will prepare you for soloing a bit more. It will develop your alternate picking, your ability to play on the beat will be enhanced by this lesson, it will show you in depth the D Minor scale, and well...it just sounds good tongue.gif

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/palm-m...workout-lesson/ COMPLETE

This lesson isn't an easy one, but you're up to the challenge I'm sure. Don't rush it, we have plenty of time..Start with the solo backing tracks will you can get full tempo. I'm excited to hear your results on this one.

When I came to GMC, this Alice in Chains lesson was one of the first ones I learned. At the time I didn't have a subscription so I just tried to figure it out by ear. The main riff isn't too hard to figure out, but the solo got kinda confusing. Over all I thought it was a very useful lesson. I think you should give it a shot.

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/rhythm-gu...s-style-lesson/ COMPLETE


The beginning riff is played in a staccato manner.... There is a distinct separation of notes here. This is going to further develop your sense of time, then there is a rockin' solo. I think you can handle it.

Currently we're ahead of schedule. You still have to the 15th to record your own improvisation on that Am strumming lesson you did earlier this week.

These two lessons aren't due until the 22nd. So you have plenty of time. But remember the more we cover, the more you practice, the greater the pay off is.

Good luck wink.gif

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post Jan 13 2009, 09:00 PM
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Ahh!! Now we're talking man smile.gif I'm gonna have fun with these lessons I'm sure.

Thanks!

Are we gonna do some more theory quizes by the way? unsure.gif


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post Jan 14 2009, 01:53 AM
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You can guarantee it dude!
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post Jan 14 2009, 05:01 PM
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Ask and you shall receive! Theory quiz time! We are here once again to test your knowledge, to see your strengths, and expose your weaknesses.

Quiz #2:
  1. The major scale and the natural minor scale have alternative names, what are they?
  2. Which mode of the major scale has a #4th?
  3. Of all the major scale modes the only one with a b2nd is what?
  4. Which key of the major scale has no sharps nor flats?
  5. Why is a power chord not really a 'chord'?
  6. What interval defines the tonality of a chord?
  7. If the I chord is a D7 the II chord Em7 and the III chord is F#Dim this usually indicates which mode is at work?
  8. What is the circle of fifths used for?
  9. Please explain to me the concept of a relative minor.


Good luck! And I'm still waiting for your Am improvisation.
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post Jan 14 2009, 05:11 PM
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Quiz #2:
  1. The major scale and the natural minor scale have alternative names, what are they?

    Ionian and Aeolian
  2. Which mode of the major scale has a #4th?

    Lydian
  3. Of all the major scale modes the only one with a b2nd is what?

    Phrygian
  4. Which key of the major scale has no sharps nor flats?

    C major? (A key is what comes out of the scale formula when you enter the root note right? In that case C major definately tongue.gif)
  5. Why is a power chord not really a 'chord'?

    It doesn't have a third.
  6. What interval defines the tonality of a chord?

    The third.
  7. If the I chord is a D7 the II chord Em7 and the III chord is F#Dim this usually indicates which mode is at work?

    Major general rule: I, IIm7, IIIm7, IVmaj7, V7, VIm, VIIdim

    So that means it's the fifth mode ... which is (I actually have an acronym for this and it's called "I Do Piss Like My Alternative Lefty")... Mixolydian.
  8. What is the circle of fifths used for?

    Hmm. Good question. An easy system to find the relative minor?
  9. Please explain to me the concept of a relative minor.

    Every major key has a relative minor that contains the same notes. The relative minor is 3 semitones below the major.


Oh that improvisation! I'm going to try to record it tonight, but don't expect too much as I'll be knackered from the gym tongue.gif

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post Jan 14 2009, 06:02 PM
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Good job dude, looks like you have a good handle on the basic theory side of things. You got every question correct! Do you feel like you have a better grasp of things now? We'll be working on triads and more complex chords soon so get ready for that smile.gif
I feel like things are working out really well, you seem to be able to play well and think well. These are two important characteristics of playing.

Do you have a DAW like Reaper or Protools? Do you have an audio interface like an Mbox, Firewire 410, Line6 toneport? Do you have Ezdrummer or any other drum programming software? I'm thinking for your 'final' you could compose a song with all the things you've learned from the mentored training process. The reason I'm telling you about it now is I think we only have like 2 weeks to work on it. I could help you with the drum tracks and stuff like that but I want you to compose it.

That means you pick a key, a chord progression, write an intro, a verse, chorus, rockin' Richie Sambora/Slash style solo and an outro (maybe a variation of the intro?). What do you think? Would you be interested in something like that?

I want to teach you more than just how to play guitar, I want you to learn how to apply all this theory I'm drilling into your head. Basically composing a song would be the ultimate culmination of all your practicing and studying.
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post Jan 14 2009, 06:25 PM
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Yeah I think this theory is getting into my head! smile.gif

I have Reaper, Toneport UX1, no drumsoftware. Would be cool to do that man smile.gif I've been composing stuff for some time now. I can show you some examples if you like.


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post Jan 14 2009, 06:58 PM
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Cool, send me a sample of something you'd like to make into a mini or full fledged song. You know my email right?
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post Jan 14 2009, 08:36 PM
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Take 3! What do you think biggrin.gif?
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