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johnvg
post Jan 14 2009, 07:28 AM
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Hello, I am about to change my stock pickups on a new Ibanez guitar that I have bought and I'm looking for advise. I play mostly power and speed metal music. My main guitar is a Schecter that has active emg pickups, which I like a lot. I am looking for something different for my Ibanez. After research I have narrowed it down to DiMarzio evolutions and Seymour Duncan sh8 Invaders. My question is if anyone has experience with either of these or has a suggestion other than emgs. Also, would it be a bad idea to put an invader in the bridge and an evolution in the neck?


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post Jan 14 2009, 09:07 AM
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I have a set of Evolution in my Ibanez and they sound teriffic, just teriffic. Very fat sound and with plenty of clarity.

I like my pickups to match but there's no rule here, if having two with compleyely different charateristics might not be useful in a song or during a gig since you wouldn't want to shock the audience too much. But if it works for you and you see a good reason for use, then of course it's fine.

I once had a terrible mix. A DiMarzio Super distortion in the bridge and a Breed in the neck, both good pickups on their own but as a mix it was terrible. Using one for rhythm and the other for solo in a song was useless.

So I suggest to find a pair that will work good with eachother soundwise.


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post Jan 14 2009, 08:50 PM
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I've also changed the bridge pickup of my Ibanez S470 to a DiMarzio Evolution.
Wrote a Blogpost about it, including some hints on how to install them:
http://29a.ch/2008/12/25/dimarzio-evolutio...-in-ibanez-s470


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post Jan 14 2009, 09:12 PM
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Thank you for the information. I have never changed pickups before, so I might take it to a shop to get them installed.


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post Jan 14 2009, 09:55 PM
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QUOTE (johnvg @ Jan 14 2009, 09:12 PM) *
Thank you for the information. I have never changed pickups before, so I might take it to a shop to get them installed.
It's not that hard to do. The hardest thing is the soldering and getting the wires right. and for the wires you can consult my blog post smile.gif


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post Jan 14 2009, 09:59 PM
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Which model do you play?
What woods are built in your Ibanez? (Body/Neck/Fretboard)
Do you have a tremolo on that guitar?
Will you replace all pickups or just the bridge?


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post Jan 14 2009, 10:07 PM
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QUOTE (ZakkWylde @ Jan 14 2009, 09:59 PM) *
Which model do you play?
What woods are built in your Ibanez? (Body/Neck/Fretboard)
Do you have a tremolo on that guitar?
Will you replace all pickups or just the bridge?


My Ibanez is a RG4EXFM1. I plan to change the bridge and neck. I don't use the middle pick up for very much, so I will leave the current on as it is. Here are the features for it:

* Body Type: Solid
* Body Wood: Basswood
* Top Wood: Flamed Maple
* Neck Joint: Bolt On
* Neck Wood: Maple 3pc
* Fretboard: Bound Rosewood
* Neck Shape: U
* # Frets: 24
* Inlay: Sharktooth
* Nut Width: 43mm
* Fretboard Radius: 400mmr
* Bridge: Edge III
* Pickup Bridge: Ibz Inf4
* Pickup Middle: Ibz Infs3
* Pickup Neck: Ibz Inf3
* Tuners: Die-Cast
* Finish: Transparent Gloss

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post Jan 14 2009, 10:19 PM
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Ok first make sure you buy tremolo spaced pickups - standard ones won't fit!

The body wood is basswood so the guitar has not much low end but a very singing tone, maple top and neck give it a lot of high end so combining it with a Dimarzio Evolution (which has a screaming high end) will make this guitar very bright sounding (like my own Rg with Evolutions). The sound will cut through the band mix like a knife and scream like crazy as it will almost have to much heights - it'll be a great lead guitar with awesome harmonics BUT it will sound a little bit flat for the rythms. The rythm sound will be good but not as full and thick as you might want it to be but this kind of sound fits perfectly if you play in a band with another guitarist who plays a very chunky rythm guitar (like an explorer or Les Paul)

The Sh-8 Invader is a pickup with a lot of low end, almost too much low end for guitars with already a good low end (like a Les Paul) but for your Ibanez it might be the ideal pickup as it will tighten up the missing low end and give it a fuller tone!

Both pickups are very articulate and great for metal - The evolution makes your guitar an awesome lead guitar with a good rythm sound, the sh-8 is a lot heavier sounding and will give you a more balanced metal sound.


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- Gibson Les Paul Custom Arctic White with EMG 81/85
- Ibanez Rg 8527 J Custom 7-String with DiMarzio Evolution and Air Norton

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- Peavey Vypyr 30 Practice Amp
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