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post Jan 14 2009, 01:22 PM
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Hi all

I play mainly blues/Rock, Gary moore and AC/DC stuff.

I use a Les Paul.

My budget would be £500 tops , but the cheaper the better.

It doesnt matter if its tube , solid state , hybrid or modelling technology.

The amp would mainly be used at bedroom level.

Amp recommendations please?

Thanks very much
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post Jan 14 2009, 01:34 PM
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Easy!!! Blackstar HT5 wink.gif
Tube amp but you can play with headphones or plug it into your sound card for recording.

there's there's the Peavey Windsor Studio, I don't recall if it takes headphones or not. Same price as the Blackstar and I'd choose the Blackstar.


There's another called Blackheart 5/3W but I suppose you'll have to turn that one up a bit louder to find the sweet spot. The Blackstar (note the difference, star/heart) is built to sound cranked already at low volumes and the Windsor has a power attenuator so that you can turn it up loud and then attenuate the power, or volume rather to any level down to complete silence. That gives cranked tube sound at low volume.
Blackheart also got a 0,25W amp called Killer Ant (they lable it as 1W). Cool! smile.gif

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post Jan 14 2009, 01:47 PM
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Fender Super Champ XD is stellar, so versatile and sounds pure tube, lots of fx, it's the best practice amp for the money by far imo, it's only $300 US
It has a great blackface sound on channel one, and for Gary Moore and ACDC it has Marshall voicings that sound amazing
For pure blues the blackface channel takes pedals great (a tubescreamer), you also have a bassman channel, hot rod channels, there's about 6 or 7 channels that are all great for blues
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post Jan 14 2009, 01:50 PM
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Orange Tiny Terror is good or MickeM's recommendations. Not sure on the Fender one but they are normally perfect for Blues smile.gif


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post Jan 14 2009, 02:21 PM
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That super champ looks and sounds amazing.

The only thing that worries is that it wouldnt be able to handle high gain sounds so well, like gary moores screaming blues sound.

The blackstar also looks good , as well as the tiny terror.

Gonna give them a try tomorrow at the guitar shop.

How does the super champ sound at higher gain settings?
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post Jan 14 2009, 02:25 PM
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QUOTE (Electric_Blues @ Jan 14 2009, 01:21 PM) *
That super champ looks and sounds amazing.

The only thing that worries is that it wouldnt be able to handle high gain sounds so well, like gary moores screaming blues sound.

The blackstar also looks good , as well as the tiny terror.

Gonna give them a try tomorrow at the guitar shop.

How does the super champ sound at higher gain settings?

Fender's aren't great for higher gains to be honest. Best clean sound out of any amp in my opinion but gain is average at best.


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post Jan 14 2009, 03:28 PM
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Here are a few other options. Line 6 will probably give you the most versatility and in my opinion are the best modeling amps.

http://line6.com/spideriii/index.html?utm_...aign=Spider+III

Spider Valves are killer tone machines for the money. The 1x12 combo might be a great fit for your tastes.

http://line6.com/spidervalve/

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post Jan 14 2009, 03:37 PM
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Check out Peavey Vypyr's, they might be interesting.


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post Jan 14 2009, 03:40 PM
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As far as a practice amp goes I'd say that Vox's Valvetronix models are quite nice, they aren't overly expensive either!

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post Jan 14 2009, 03:54 PM
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lol with that budget you can get more than a practice amp!


the bugera tube amps are nice...they might be too loud for what you want...the black heart series are good, but you will needs pedals for it...the vox valvetronix are great sounding amps! they have a tube pre amp but it works a little differently than most hybrids which makes it sound better..


out of the 3 i mentioned...the cheapest is the vox, then the black heart, then the bugera...the vox is a 2x12 and has an attenuater (spelling?) built in....the black heart is also good for low volumes....the bugera is 120 watts of tube! which is what made me not buy that one although the sounds are top notch on the bugera, its TOO LOUD! even if was going to play live concerts...120 watts of tube is too loud....i would never reach a good volume to make the tubes sound good.


the vox AD50vtxl is the 50 watt 2x12 which is what i just ordered...id go with that or the black heart + pedals



as for the peavy windosr and vypyer the other members suggested, they are both good amps, the the windsor is a little higher in price compared to the blackheart (both are tube ambs) and it still needs pedals....the vypyer has some quality issues due to the poor quality control in their factory in china...


i just thought you might want to know that (no offense to the above that suggested it....they are great sounding amps)

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post Jan 14 2009, 04:03 PM
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If you wanna classic blues rock Gary Moore or ACDC Tone than you're looking for Marshall or British type of gain.

I suggest Marshall DSL201 for that. It's all tube, it has 12" speaker, and it rocks smile.gif


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post Jan 14 2009, 04:12 PM
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QUOTE (Marc_Maiden @ Jan 14 2009, 03:54 PM) *
lol with that budget you can get more than a practice amp!


the bugera tube amps are nice...they might be too loud for what you want...the black heart series are good, but you will needs pedals for it...the vox valvetronix are great sounding amps! they have a tube pre amp but it works a little differently than most hybrids which makes it sound better..


out of the 3 i mentioned...the cheapest is the vox, then the black heart, then the bugera...the vox is a 2x12 and has an attenuater (spelling?) built in....the black heart is also good for low volumes....the bugera is 120 watts of tube! which is what made me not buy that one although the sounds are top notch on the bugera, its TOO LOUD! even if was going to play live concerts...120 watts of tube is too loud....i would never reach a good volume to make the tubes sound good.


the vox AD50vtxl is the 50 watt 2x12 which is what i just ordered...id go with that or the black heart + pedals



as for the peavy windosr and vypyer the other members suggested, they are both good amps, the the windsor is a little higher in price compared to the blackheart (both are tube ambs) and it still needs pedals....the vypyer has some quality issues due to the poor quality control in their factory in china...


i just thought you might want to know that (no offense to the above that suggested it....they are great sounding amps)


Well, If the purpose of the amp would be bedroom level, perhaps it would be overkill to get an expensive amp as such?
I mean for just playing like that you could just as well get a Line 6 POD or such and just plug in a pair of headphones.

However it all comes down to taste, I mean I play on a AD50vtXL myself, and it sounds great for it's price + It has a quite nifty feature which let's you control the amount of watts you wanna use, meaning you can keep the master cranked and just play it as a 10watt amp and not lose any dynamics.
Only reason I didn't specifically recommend you that one is I don't know how it would fit your playing style?

If you are interested you could check out a Guitarworld review of it here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGNx9O0d_Sg&fmt=18

Quite frankly, only reason I spent those kind of money on a "practice amp" in the first place was that I knew I would end up playing with some friends later on so just wanted something that could handle both!

I used to own this one, and I was quite pleased with the way it sounded and the variety of sounds you could get out of it.
http://www.musik-produktiv.it/(s(las2nib9y...nix-ad30vt.aspx

In my experience it's been something I've really liked to have a lot of different sounds and effects in one amp for practicing!


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post Jan 14 2009, 04:58 PM
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^^^ have to agree with you there....you could always go the toneport route and save some money.....or spend the rest on a new guitar!!! biggrin.gif


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post Jan 14 2009, 07:41 PM
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Vox DA-20. Small, lots of features, can run on batteries if needed, great (some would say legendary) sound. I have the DA-15 and I love it, but I'd recommend the 20 because it has 8 inch speakers. I think the 6 are a little too midrangey at times.


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QUOTE (inertia @ Jan 14 2009, 07:47 AM) *
Fender Super Champ XD is stellar, so versatile and sounds pure tube, lots of fx, it's the best practice amp for the money by far imo, it's only $300 US
It has a great blackface sound on channel one, and for Gary Moore and ACDC it has Marshall voicings that sound amazing
For pure blues the blackface channel takes pedals great (a tubescreamer), you also have a bassman channel, hot rod channels, there's about 6 or 7 channels that are all great for blues



+1 I own it, I love it, buy it. If you want more gain buy a distortion pedal to throw in front of it. This way you get the best cleans and very good crunch.
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HANDS DOWN you're looking for a Orange Tiny Terror Combo!

http://www.thomann.de/gb/orange_tiny_terror_combo.htm

This is from a German website, it must be a lot cheaper in Britain


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post Jan 14 2009, 09:52 PM
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The Tiny Terror or the Marshall DSL probably fit your style. But they probably won't sound good at bedroom level. A really cheap amp that you might like is the epiphone junior or the harley benton clone of it. They're both all tube, cheap, and only 5 watts, so you can drive them even at home. The Blackheart and Blackstar HT-5 seam to be similar.

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post Jan 14 2009, 10:18 PM
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the new valvetronix by vox are very versatile with loads of features, worth a look!
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