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post Feb 12 2009, 04:08 PM
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QUOTE (OrganisedConfusion @ Feb 12 2009, 03:01 PM) *
The graphics blow the XBox 360 out of the water. The best console game for graphics is Metal Gear Solid IV. I'm not a huge Metal Gear fan but that is the only game on a console that blows your mind graphics wise and comes close to Crysis with graphical supremacy. 360 doesn't have better games. What games does it have that are better than Killzone 2, Resistance 2, Metal Gear Solid IV, LittleBigPlanet. It can't compete hence why they have to make sure they charge nothing for the console. The PS3 is a graphical beast. The X Box 360 isn't as powerful. I think I read somewhere that the PS3 hasn't been ran to even 60% of its graphical capability yet so expect some stunning games this year on the PS3 smile.gif


Not true - you are vastly exaggerating the differences in the graphics (and sounding like a fanboy tongue.gif).

When comparing the graphics of a game that is on both consoles the graphics are quite evenly matched except that the 360 games graphics are normally a tiny bit better due to not having been ported over. The difference is negligible. It doesn't make a difference that the ps3 has extra power because developers can't utilise it.

And which console has the best games is entirely down to opinion.


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post Feb 12 2009, 04:17 PM
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QUOTE (Moon Boots @ Feb 12 2009, 03:08 PM) *
Not true - you are vastly exaggerating the differences in the graphics (and sounding like a fanboy tongue.gif).

When comparing the graphics of a game that is on both consoles the graphics are quite evenly matched except that the 360 games graphics are normally a tiny bit better due to not having been ported over. The difference is negligible. It doesn't make a difference that the ps3 has extra power because developers can't utilise it.

And which console has the best games is entirely down to opinion.

I wouldn't agree on the graphics but it's quite clear that PS3 only games are considerably better graphically. Like Motorstorm: Pacific Rift especially and MGS IV. I don't know of any XBox 360 games that are particularly worth playing and that is my opinion but I think the reason not as many people buy a PS3 is solely down to the price.

I know one thing that would switch it around and I've been waiting years for it. Sony and Square Enix have a virtual blank cheque if they release what everyone wants and that's Final Fantasy VII remade for the PS3 like that tech demo long ago. I think it will happen and if they package PS3's with FFVII they'd fly off the shelves.

I dislike the XBox 360 as I really thing the system is rubbish. It's cheaply put together and breaks far too easily and it doesn't have a Blu Ray player. It doesn't have any games solely on XBox 360 that I want to play and I just don't like it. I am a fan of Sony and I think the PS3 is a brilliant console. That isn't just because I love Sony it's because I genuinely think what they have created is a piece of technological brilliance. I don't think the 360 can be compared to that and it only sells well because like I said it's very cheap but cheaply made and also it came out 12 months before the PS3. I think this is the year for the PS3 with God Of War, Killzone and Gran Turismo getting new releases. And if Final Fantasy VII does happen then it'd be huge.


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post Feb 12 2009, 04:35 PM
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QUOTE (OrganisedConfusion @ Feb 12 2009, 03:17 PM) *
I wouldn't agree on the graphics but it's quite clear that PS3 only games are considerably better graphically. Like Motorstorm: Pacific Rift especially and MGS IV. I don't know of any XBox 360 games that are particularly worth playing and that is my opinion but I think the reason not as many people buy a PS3 is solely down to the price.


Sigh. Well, this list of `top 10 games from 2008` has 2 of the top 3 games as 360 games. I think that the 360 has better games - but this isn't important as depending on your personal opinion either could have better games.

A quick google search reveals this. As you can see there is very little difference graphically. The 360 pics have slightly more detail if anything. The difference is minimal.

QUOTE (OrganisedConfusion @ Feb 12 2009, 03:17 PM) *
It doesn't have any games solely on XBox 360 that I want to play and I just don't like it. I am a fan of Sony and I think the PS3 is a brilliant console.


Well, this sums it up. Don't make outlandish statements like `it's quite clear that PS3 only games are considerably better graphically` just because you like one of the companies more than the other. Its bizarre and is unhelpful to those who may be reading this thread to help them decide which console to buy.



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post Feb 12 2009, 04:42 PM
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QUOTE (Moon Boots @ Feb 12 2009, 03:35 PM) *
Sigh. Well, this list of `top 10 games from 2008` has 2 of the top 3 games as 360 games. I think that the 360 has better games - but this isn't important as depending on your personal opinion either could have better games.

A quick google search reveals this. As you can see there is very little difference graphically. The 360 pics have slightly more detail if anything. The difference is minimal.



Well, this sums it up. Don't make outlandish statements like `it's quite clear that PS3 only games are considerably better graphically` just because you like one of the companies more than the other. Its bizarre and is unhelpful to those who may be reading this thread to help them decide which console to buy.

Graphic Tests that companies have done bring PS3 out on top. Not games websites but actual technology recording sites. Plus that list of top games is awful lol. Fable 2 is an awful game and a hell of a lot worse than the first. I would actually like to play Left 4 Dead but I wouldn't buy a 360 just for that.

The graphical power of the PS3 is more than the 360. That is FACT. It isn't me saying that. But graphics aren't everything. Gameplay is more important and I still think the PS3 wins. I'm just trying to make people see past the cheap price of the 360 and show that if you spend the extra cash you get a lot better machine.


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post Feb 12 2009, 04:55 PM
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QUOTE (OrganisedConfusion @ Feb 12 2009, 07:03 AM) *
For what reason do you believe that?

PS3 is better even if you just consider the fact it has a Blu Ray player which costs close to as much as a PS3 normally anyway.



For one, I could care less about the quality of my movies considering the fact that my T.V is Hi-def, and I do admit to PS3 having better graphics. But online wise, everyone is on Xbox360. New games that just hit the scene, hit it first on Xbox 360. People who have technical problems with the 360 ( Such as myself) find themselves getting everything repaired with ease and now it appears that there are hardly anymore frequently occuring problems with most Xbox users. I mainly play Xbox360 for the online experience. Ps3 doesnt come close to comparing with it. I know many people that have an Xbox360 and a Ps3 and they choose the Xbox over the Ps3 not for graphics, but for online play. Thats what I'm after.


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post Feb 12 2009, 04:57 PM
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QUOTE (OrganisedConfusion @ Feb 12 2009, 03:42 PM) *
Graphic Tests that companies have done bring PS3 out on top. Not games websites but actual technology recording sites.


Yes, the hardware is on top but the hardware itself isn't what you play - you play the games. And the games are on an equal footing with the 360.

QUOTE (OrganisedConfusion @ Feb 12 2009, 03:42 PM) *
Plus that list of top games is awful lol. Fable 2 is an awful game and a hell of a lot worse than the first. I would actually like to play Left 4 Dead but I wouldn't buy a 360 just for that.


I thought fable 2 was fantastic - it comes down to opinion.

QUOTE (OrganisedConfusion @ Feb 12 2009, 03:42 PM) *
The graphical power of the PS3 is more than the 360.


The graphical power means nothing unless developers can use it - and so far - they haven't been able to. Maybe they will in the future, but at the moment they haven't. It could be a million times more powerful than the 360 but if developers can't use the power then it makes no difference.

QUOTE (OrganisedConfusion @ Feb 12 2009, 03:42 PM) *
Gameplay is more important and I still think the PS3 wins.


Its just opinion!!! tongue.gif - it just comes down to opinion.

QUOTE (OrganisedConfusion @ Feb 12 2009, 03:42 PM) *
I'm just trying to make people see past the cheap price of the 360 and show that if you spend the extra cash you get a lot better machine.


Thats great, but I think the best way to do that is to be objective and honest about the differences rather than just pandering to one side and warping the truth to fit your own views.


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post Feb 12 2009, 06:31 PM
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Clearly someone in here needs to Organize their Confusion. laugh.gif

All your doing is stating your opinion, one that I believe is wrong.
Yes, we get it. PS3 has great graphics. Yes , we get it. Your a huge Sony fan and if Sony was a girl you would marry her solely based on her appearence (graphics).

But saying things like " Fable 2 is an awful game and is a hell of alot worse then the first ",
Is just making you look bad.

Saying one console is better then another is dumb. Its all based on personal taste, maybe if you spent a little more time with an Xbox360, you might appreciate it a little more then just being a 100% Sony Addict.



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post Feb 12 2009, 06:52 PM
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The great debate lives on even here at GMC. laugh.gif

If I had a nickel for everytime I have heard this argument...... laugh.gif

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PS3 has a watered down blue ray player, not as nice as an external one you can buy.


the PS3 CAN have better graphics than an xbox 360, however, no body has made a game yet that harnesses the PS3's power so for now, the 360 is ahead (dont believe me, check gamespot.com 's ps3/xbox graphic comparisions)

360 right is squeezing out more juice these days, and its gonna get crazy when the halo 3 expansion comes out and the new battlefield games as well!!


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QUOTE (Marc_Maiden @ Feb 13 2009, 06:36 PM) *
PS3 has a watered down blue ray player, not as nice as an external one you can buy.


And the laser of the blue ray has high chance of breaking just after warenty expires (1 year)
Wich Sony can repair for you if you pay them 200€ laugh.gif
(atleast that was the case here in the Netherlands, i don't know if their service is like that everywhere:P)



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