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Jesse
post Jan 17 2009, 05:50 PM
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I always wanted a video camera... and I think it would be great to record my live performances, youtube videos, and so on. There are alot of different ones on the market, with alot of different saving options. To dvd.. to hard drive to memory card... you name it. What would be good to look into? I'm still not sure what I want for my birthday in July, its still far away, but I could definately get one then... around 400 500 euros probably, waht would you recommend?


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post Jan 17 2009, 05:53 PM
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I don't have any particular brands in mine, but as far as storage I would recommend hard drive.
That's what I have and it's very convenient if you need to upload the vids online, just plug camera to your computer, drag and drop videos and you're set!


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post Jan 17 2009, 06:01 PM
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What brand's yourse?


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post Jan 17 2009, 06:11 PM
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I use a JVC. I got it on ebay hen I started working for GMC.
The model is GZ-MG50U
It's not high def, but I like it a lot...


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post Jan 17 2009, 06:12 PM
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I would recommend a Sony miniDV cam.MiniDV standard is very good (still in professional use on TV stations etc).I has proved itself over the years and you don't have loss of quality..Sony is the best brand when it comes to cams so its better to seek for that.Things to look for are 3 CCD chips and the size of the chip inside camera (the bigger the better).Cams that have 3CCD will give you better color and will give out better picture in dark conditions...Only other option that comes to my mind is a HD (high definition) camcorder...But I don't know its price , it can be much over you budget but check them out to see maybe there are some home models that have cool price.

Also good additional feature (if you are able to find it in home models) is Microphone/line input on the camera..That can save you a lot of time when shooting playing videos etc..

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post Jan 17 2009, 06:16 PM
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BTW. anyone fancy coming into chat?

line input on the camera..That can save you a lot of time when shooting playing videos etc.. . you maen, so i can enter the pod IN the camera?


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post Jan 17 2009, 06:28 PM
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QUOTE (Jesse @ Jan 17 2009, 06:16 PM) *
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line input on the camera..That can save you a lot of time when shooting playing videos etc.. . you maen, so i can enter the pod IN the camera?


Thats exactly right ! You can input any sound source and capture sound and video at the same time..I saw some panasonic cams that have that option for lower priced ones smile.gif


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post Jan 17 2009, 06:34 PM
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That sure is something to consider.
Mine doesn't have a line in, which means that I record the audio separately. I could use the camera's built in mic, but quality is not as good as recording into computer and putting it in synch to video after.


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post Jan 17 2009, 06:41 PM
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QUOTE (David Wallimann @ Jan 17 2009, 06:34 PM) *
That sure is something to consider.
Mine doesn't have a line in, which means that I record the audio separately. I could use the camera's built in mic, but quality is not as good as recording into computer and putting it in synch to video after.


yeah its a really useful option!! You get everything in sync on one tape...I use a proffesional camcorder that has that option but I saw cheaper ones that do have it too..I think it was a Panasonic cam with 3CCD that had it..


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post Jan 17 2009, 06:42 PM
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My vote for miniDV cam as well, but recently there are some cool HD cams with 3CCD chips as well that are becoming cheaper. If you can find HD cam with 3 CCD chip, I would always recommend that over the miniDV cam, because you get a lot better picture. Seek out some good models.
Another thing to consider is hard drive or miniDV tape unit. Both have it's pros and cons. For example the good thing about the hard drive is that you can drag&drop to computer, but maybe less good thing is that you have fixed amount of memory, and usually teh cam records a bit compressed picture on the HD then on tape. WIth tape, the picture quality is a bit better, and you can switch tapes, but you can't drag&drop - you gotta capture in real time. You can see what suits you the best, I think both standards can be good solutions depending on the needs.
As David and Bogdan suggested it is best to aim at 3CCD chip camera, and if you plan to carry it around definitely get a cam bag. Also Line in on the camera can save you some work syncing that's for sure, but it's not that big of a deal. If you find that option, it's definitely a good one to have tho.


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post Jan 19 2009, 06:11 PM
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Jesse get MINI DV camcorder - it will do more than enough work for your collaborations and videos.
When shooting videos make sure you have strong lightning system , or 3 point light system at least (1 front and 1 light on each side from you). That way you make sure lightning is even and your videos will look more natural.

Look for some Camcorders on Ebay , but I don't recommend US Ebay but rather European one. There seems to be less fraud complaints thats why wink.gif


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post Jan 19 2009, 06:51 PM
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I'm not getting something second hand, just don't like that ^^ but really, mini dv. biggrin.gif What else would I need to get it to the pc.


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post Jan 19 2009, 10:21 PM
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You can get a quality miniDV cam for 400-500e Jesse.

As for connecting with PC, you will need a Firewire (IEEE1394) connection. Make sure your miniDV camera has Firewire interface, and if your motherboard doesn't have one, you can buy a PCI Firewire card that will do the job nicely. These cards are cheap so it's not a big deal to get the. Also you will need a Firewire cable, and althouhg it has a certain limitation length, I recommend you to get the longest you can find. Sometimes you may wanna move the cam or the PC and it will come in handy. Also a tripod could be useful, there are some really cheap ones, and they help a lot. So these three things:

1. Firewire interface (both on cam and PC)


2. Firewire card (if you don't have Firewire interface on motherboard)


3. Firewire cable (6 pin, longest that you can find)


4. Camera tripod (the cheapest will do the job for home recordings)


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post Jan 20 2009, 09:20 AM
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QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Jan 19 2009, 10:21 PM) *
You can get a quality miniDV cam for 400-500e Jesse.

As for connecting with PC, you will need a Firewire (IEEE1394) connection. Make sure your miniDV camera has Firewire interface, and if your motherboard doesn't have one, you can buy a PCI Firewire card that will do the job nicely. These cards are cheap so it's not a big deal to get the. Also you will need a Firewire cable, and althouhg it has a certain limitation length, I recommend you to get the longest you can find. Sometimes you may wanna move the cam or the PC and it will come in handy. Also a tripod could be useful, there are some really cheap ones, and they help a lot. So these three things:

1. Firewire interface (both on cam and PC)


2. Firewire card (if you don't have Firewire interface on motherboard)


3. Firewire cable (6 pin, longest that you can find)


4. Camera tripod (the cheapest will do the job for home recordings)


Thank's Ivan, good stuff. I think my pc has a firewire input, its hp multimedia pc, and the input looks like an usb jack, but one side has a bit of a curve, I'll find a pic. Yep, it says, 1394, and I googled it, means FIREWIRE:D


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post Jan 20 2009, 09:33 AM
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I'm using my old Sony Digital8 camcorder. It records in DV format to the digital tape, or through a FireWire cord to my PC (although DV signal of PAL size is kinda huge wink.gif ).

I would recommend you a miniDV camcorder smile.gif


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