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post Jan 19 2009, 04:29 AM
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Hmm ... I went to a music shop recently and decided to shred nonsense on a violen and upon hearing the nonsense ... I realized just how beautiful the instrument sounds ... I'm definetly going to explore further and might actually integrate it to my metal band haha but I was just wondering ... Does anybody here in GMC know how to play violen ... and How possible is a series lesson on violen ... or cello ... or classical instruments?

But guitar remains my love hehe back to my mistress haha

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post Jan 19 2009, 04:31 AM
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I think violin strings are tuned to 5ths so it's different than guitar but that's all I can say... Not sure how accurate that info is though.

Violin is cool though, it would be nice to learn.


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post Jan 19 2009, 08:29 AM
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Listen to My Dying Bride - you'll get the catch how it could sound with a really dark and heavy sounds... biggrin.gif


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post Jan 19 2009, 11:21 AM
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QUOTE (Enucleation @ Jan 19 2009, 04:31 AM) *
I think violin strings are tuned to 5ths so it's different than guitar but that's all I can say... Not sure how accurate that info is though.

Violin is cool though, it would be nice to learn.


You are right, violin is tuned in perfect fifths smile.gif

And it's not an easy instrument to learn, since you need to develop good relative pitch. smile.gif



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post Jan 19 2009, 11:23 AM
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If you want great violen music just listen to Korpiklaani. smile.gif


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post Jan 20 2009, 12:20 AM
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I used to play violin when I was 9, pretty hard to play. I played it for 2 year. All we did in that time was just first position, and there are 7 positions. So, it's way harder then guitar.

But!

Because of its short neck and 4.5 octaves on 4 strings it gives you tremendous technical capabilities, you can do unimaginable things, crossing the strings is easier, you don't have those wide stretches(With one big stretch you can cover whole neck:) I mean one octave in a stretch)
All that of course when you learn to play it.

It's kind a limited to classical and jazz, doesn't fit in anything else maybe some Irish folk:)



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post Jan 20 2009, 12:35 AM
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I've always wanted to learn to play the violin smile.gif .. especially after being a My Dying Bride fan for ages
Methinks i will grab one if i see a cheap one smile.gif

Are there violins with frets? biggrin.gif


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post Jan 20 2009, 08:50 AM
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QUOTE (Trond Vold @ Jan 20 2009, 12:35 AM) *
especially after being a My Dying Bride fan for ages


that's exactly what I said above, MDB mastered composing violin into their songs to the limits... biggrin.gif


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Also flogging molly uses violin but that's like Vasilije says Irish folk. smile.gif


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post Jan 20 2009, 08:33 PM
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Nothing but love for the violin from here too, I've always wanted to learn to play one.


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post Jan 20 2009, 08:37 PM
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I find violin ridicolously easy to play... I dunno but I started a week ago and I can play Hungarian Dance by Brahms and a couple of swedish folk songs already...


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QUOTE (Oxac @ Jan 20 2009, 09:37 PM) *
I find violin ridicolously easy to play... I dunno but I started a week ago and I can play Hungarian Dance by Brahms and a couple of swedish folk songs already...


You don't find it very hard to "find" the notes on the neck? I've always wondered how hard that really is smile.gif


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post Jan 20 2009, 09:03 PM
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The problem with the violin is that in most cases it sounds horrible unless there's a really talented person playing. wink.gif Just my 0.02$


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post Jan 20 2009, 09:36 PM
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QUOTE (Toni Suominen @ Jan 20 2009, 08:40 PM) *
You don't find it very hard to "find" the notes on the neck? I've always wondered how hard that really is smile.gif


No not really, I find it very easy. There are two things that are pretty hard though, finding the exactly right pitch instantly (which is done with muscular memory, so my ear can't substitute years of training ofc.) and playing very clean.

Well, I wouldn't be able to sightread using a violin... I just play what I hear in my head and since it's such of a new and marvelous little hobby of mine, I don't really care if I'm going to be able to sightread or not biggrin.gif


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post Jan 21 2009, 12:06 AM
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QUOTE (Oxac @ Jan 20 2009, 09:36 PM) *
No not really, I find it very easy. There are two things that are pretty hard though, finding the exactly right pitch instantly



Isn't that what Toni asked you?.... rolleyes.gif


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I think that you are talented Oxac, congratulations. I still recommend you to take some lessons, it will improve your playing fast, it's still tricky instrument to play, there are lots of rules, there are no frets and you have to be very very precise, if you don't want to sound out of tune or something!

Yes, I agree that violin fits in metal music, but there is no such a thing as "metal style" for violin, it's still classical!


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post Jan 21 2009, 03:29 PM
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I got a violin on ebay a couple years ago.. Just anted to pick it up and teach myself. Never did much out of it...
I found it really hard to master, you need to be super precise!
But this thread kind of motivated to try again.. :-)
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QUOTE (utak3r @ Jan 21 2009, 12:06 AM) *
Isn't that what Toni asked you?.... rolleyes.gif


No he didn't, he asked if it was hard to find them, I think not. I just believe that it's hard to find the exactly right frequency instantly. But it's like that with guitar as well. Check how often you play exactly in tune, you'll be surprised by the result!

@ Vasilije - I'm thinking about going to a music conservatory, I might as well date a violin student *grins*


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QUOTE (Oxac @ Jan 21 2009, 09:36 AM) *
No he didn't, he asked if it was hard to find them, I think not. I just believe that it's hard to find the exactly right frequency instantly. But it's like that with guitar as well. Check how often you play exactly in tune, you'll be surprised by the result!

@ Vasilije - I'm thinking about going to a music conservatory, I might as well date a violin student *grins*


haha! :-)


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QUOTE (Oxac @ Jan 21 2009, 03:36 PM) *
No he didn't, he asked if it was hard to find them, I think not. I just believe that it's hard to find the exactly right frequency instantly.


So my English understanding doesn't help me to see a difference... for me it's the same wink.gif Maybe try in Polish ;p


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