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Zynex
post Jan 19 2009, 09:53 AM
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Hey guys,

I have been practicing my alt. picking lately. Just trying to boost up the old speed, and synchronizing my hands using mostly 3 nps and pentatonic patterns/runs. Im currently doing 16th notes on about 65 Bpm. I was just wondering, when is the right time to boost up the Bpm? And when I do, what do you guys recommend for the amount of bpm boosting up (2 bpm, 5 bpm, 10 bpm)? I dont want to get sloppy, when upping my speed, but don't want to get stuck at one speed level for eternity....

any tips??


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post Jan 19 2009, 10:55 AM
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The time to boost the bpm is when you can play the current speed clean and accurate a couple of times......

When i increse speed i usually increase it with 5 bpm but i would say that you should test your way to it.... Try increasing it with 5 if that is to much lover the tempo a bit........

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post Jan 19 2009, 11:05 AM
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In order to be able to play relaxed on certain speed you need to able to play it a bit faster.

Anotherwords, If you are playing it at 65 bpm and want to increase for 10 bpm, increase a bit more (lets say for 20) and then return to 75.. and then as soon as you feel comfortable with that, go for more smile.gif


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post Jan 19 2009, 12:02 PM
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QUOTE (Zynex @ Jan 19 2009, 09:53 AM) *
Hey guys,

I have been practicing my alt. picking lately. Just trying to boost up the old speed, and synchronizing my hands using mostly 3 nps and pentatonic patterns/runs. Im currently doing 16th notes on about 65 Bpm. I was just wondering, when is the right time to boost up the Bpm? And when I do, what do you guys recommend for the amount of bpm boosting up (2 bpm, 5 bpm, 10 bpm)? I dont want to get sloppy, when upping my speed, but don't want to get stuck at one speed level for eternity....

any tips??

If your top speed that you can cleanly play the lick, any lick, is 65 bpm here is what I would do:

-Set the metronome at 35 and play the lick for a minute. This allows you muscle memory to really learn the motions without any mistatkes.

-Set the metronome at 45 and play for 1 minute. Same concept but you are training your muscles to go just a little faster while playing very precise.

-Jump to 55 and play for a minute. You are still playing cleanly but you are approaching your top speed. Still really engraining your muscle memory to play the lick clean and precise.

-Go to 65 and play for a minute. You are now at your top speed and playing about 95-100% clean.

-Go to 75 and play for 1 minute. The purpose here is for you muscles and brain to FEEL what it is like to play at a higher tempo. Might on hit 50% of notes but you are preparing you fingers to move faster.

I would do this for a week and then jump 10 bpm and repeat. You will be surprised at the results. Any time you are working on getting a lick up to tempo you need to practice it ABOVE your top speed for a certain amount to be able to train your muscles and brain to play at those higher tempos. Hope this helps and that I didn't confuse you!! biggrin.gif
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post Jan 19 2009, 12:38 PM
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Thanks guys! These tips are really usefull! Time to start up the ol' mentronome again, and start playing biggrin.gif


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post Jan 19 2009, 12:48 PM
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I agree with all these suggestions.
Also, don't forget to write down your progress.
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post Jan 19 2009, 12:54 PM
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Donny great to hear you want to move tempos higher !

You should be really fluent in one tempo before moving into another one. I also recommend increasing anywhere between 5 to 8 bpm when you move tempos. Try to do every exercise, sequence, pentatonic, scale- whatever you practice- at least 10 times in a row in that tempo without a single mistake. If you can do this without feeling pressure, its time to move to new tempo. Lets say you do it 8 times , and 9th time you play wrong rhythm or you dont mute the sound, its time to go back and start counting again !

The reason I recommend you this technique is because once you get a hang of it, you will never again need to go back and work the tempos and also your regular tempo will not be 60bpm for 16ths but rather 120-140 at least !

Hope that helps man smile.gif


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post Jan 19 2009, 03:14 PM
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QUOTE (David Wallimann @ Jan 19 2009, 12:48 PM) *
I agree with all these suggestions.
Also, don't forget to write down your progress.
Let us know how it goes!


Ok I will man smile.gif

QUOTE (Pedja Simovic @ Jan 19 2009, 12:54 PM) *
Donny great to hear you want to move tempos higher !

You should be really fluent in one tempo before moving into another one. I also recommend increasing anywhere between 5 to 8 bpm when you move tempos. Try to do every exercise, sequence, pentatonic, scale- whatever you practice- at least 10 times in a row in that tempo without a single mistake. If you can do this without feeling pressure, its time to move to new tempo. Lets say you do it 8 times , and 9th time you play wrong rhythm or you dont mute the sound, its time to go back and start counting again !

The reason I recommend you this technique is because once you get a hang of it, you will never again need to go back and work the tempos and also your regular tempo will not be 60bpm for 16ths but rather 120-140 at least !

Hope that helps man smile.gif


Thanks Pedja, that's helpfull to know! Im gonna start working on this as soon as possible laugh.gif


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post Jan 19 2009, 03:42 PM
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I generally increase the tempo at 5-10 rate when I can play the sequence exactly right for couple of times. On higher tempos I move at +1 bpm rate tho, since it is harder. This is generally a subjective matter, so what ever works best for you, you can apply it, anything is good as long as it is clean and precise.


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post Jan 19 2009, 04:08 PM
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I do about 8 BPM jumps when I increase and I determine that when I can normally play my sequence 20 times through without messing up (yeah, that may be a bit much, but doing it 20 times makes it habit, right?). The only reason I think I increase it by 8 BPM is due to getting the idea from a John Petrucci video that he did. He also suggested that if you have trouble going fast at a particular speed to INCREASE the BPM by another 8 or so and try to do the riff/lick at the higher speed. Then bring it back down 8 BPM and try it again. It should seem easier that way. Hope that makes sense.

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post Jan 19 2009, 04:17 PM
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Agree with the ideas above!

However, it is clever to do what Dejan suggested: turn up the metronome about 20-40 and try a pattern you know well. of course it will be sloppy and bad but try it for a few minutes. then turn it back down to a speed that's only 5-10 bpm above your actual speed.

IMO gaining speed requires 2 things: muscle memory and the brain to get familiar with speed itself (intense drum or metronome click). For muscle memory follow the advices given above, that is, you should develop in little increments and return to a comfortable speed time to time. However, sometimes you'll need to sacrifice some accuracy to get used to speed. This is a psychological aspect of shredding. Turn up the metronome, listen to it, try to catch the beat try to follow it. 8th note triplets, 16 notes, 16 note triplets even 32nds.

And practice all this stuff DAILY. This way you'll progress in no time! biggrin.gif


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