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Chris Evans View Member Profile	Jan 26 2009, 01:31 PM
Jan 26 2009, 01:31 PM	Learning Tone Guru - Community Coordinator & Moderator Posts: 6.319 Joined: 24-September 07 From: Sittingbourne, UK	QUOTE (David Wallimann @ Jan 26 2009, 11:54 AM) Or we could also simplify the whole thing... After uploading a lesson, the student clicks a button to roll a dice that gives him his final score... You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Show us what part of the world you live in and get yourself ON THE GMC:er Location MAP

kaznie_NL View Member Profile	Jan 26 2009, 03:21 PM
Jan 26 2009, 03:21 PM	Experienced Tone Seeker Posts: 4.809 Joined: 8-December 07 From: Hedel, Netherlands	QUOTE (David Wallimann @ Jan 26 2009, 12:54 PM) Or we could also simplify the whole thing... After uploading a lesson, the student clicks a button to roll a dice that gives him his final score... Great idea..... You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My YouTube Channel Here My Rec Takes Here --- GEAR --- Ibanez SA08LTD2 BAR Vox AD50VT Pod Farm Line 6 Pod Studio GX El Cheapo Strat Dunlop Slide Korg Toneworks AX5G

Fran View Member Profile	Jan 26 2009, 05:33 PM
Jan 26 2009, 05:33 PM	Learning Rock Star - Wiki Coordinator Posts: 8.451 Joined: 20-November 07 From: Spain	+1 on the keep things simple at first. This is going to be fuuuun You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Guitars: Fender American Deluxe Stratocaster, Ibanez RG2570MZ, Epiphone SG G-400 Amp: Vox AC4TVH head + V112TV cab Effects: Vox Satchurator, Vox Time Machine, Dunlop CryBaby, Boss MT-2, Boss CE-5, Boss TU-2, Boss ME-70 Recording: Line-6 POD X3 + FBV-Express, Pandora PX5D GMC wants YOU to take part in our Guitar-Wikipedia! Have a good time reading great articles and writing your own with us in our GUITAR WIKI! Share your playing and get Pro-advice from our Instructors: Join REC

Praetorian View Member Profile	Jan 26 2009, 05:44 PM
Jan 26 2009, 05:44 PM	Learning Apprentice Player & Challenge Star Posts: 1.995 Joined: 10-March 08 From: Albany NY USA	This is an AWESOME idea!!! It would give people something to strive for!!!! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Ben ___________________________________________ "PLAY YOUR DAMN GUITAR!!" - Kirk Hammett Fender American Standard Stratocaster Ibanez RG4EXQM1

lcsdds View Member Profile	Jan 26 2009, 09:00 PM
Jan 26 2009, 09:00 PM	Learning Tone Seeker Posts: 2.054 Joined: 2-September 08	I really think that the purpose of this whole program should be to get people to COMPLETE lessons!! Being able to play something from start to finish takes your playing to a whole other level, IMO. I know for me that for years I could come up with what I thought were cool licks but I had no idea how to apply them. When I found this site and started doing the lessons I could see how really these solos were just somebody else's "cool licks" that had been put into a coherent solo. It is cool to steal licks from lessons you like but it is altogether another skill to be able to play the solo seamlessly from start to finish, up to tempo, in time and with feeling. Just my 2 cents. Monte You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Jeff View Member Profile	Jan 26 2009, 09:35 PM
Jan 26 2009, 09:35 PM	GMC:er Posts: 877 Joined: 25-April 06 From: Virginia, US	QUOTE (lcsdds @ Jan 26 2009, 03:00 PM) I really think that the purpose of this whole program should be to get people to COMPLETE lessons!! Being able to play something from start to finish takes your playing to a whole other level, IMO. I know for me that for years I could come up with what I thought were cool licks but I had no idea how to apply them. When I found this site and started doing the lessons I could see how really these solos were just somebody else's "cool licks" that had been put into a coherent solo. It is cool to steal licks from lessons you like but it is altogether another skill to be able to play the solo seamlessly from start to finish, up to tempo, in time and with feeling. Just my 2 cents. Monte You bring up an interesting point. I can learn how to play one of the lessons and make a video of myself playing it. That doesn't mean that I understand what I'm playing. It just means that I have memorized it. In order for me to truly know it and the context to which it applies, and be graded on it, I should be able to explain the concept/theory behind it to someone else. That would be the real test. How does one do that for this program? It seems that you would have to make an explanation video or text like the instructors do. So, without that, what would really be evaluated is your ability to play it but not necessarily understand it... Maybe the instructors should post a few questions along with the videos so that students can answer them and be scored that way too. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

purple hayes View Member Profile	Jan 26 2009, 09:47 PM
Jan 26 2009, 09:47 PM	Ultimate Guitar Hero Posts: 1.085 Joined: 6-September 07 From: USA	QUOTE (lcsdds @ Jan 26 2009, 03:00 PM) I really think that the purpose of this whole program should be to get people to COMPLETE lessons!! Being able to play something from start to finish takes your playing to a whole other level, IMO. ... but it is altogether another skill to be able to play the solo seamlessly from start to finish, up to tempo, in time and with feeling. Just my 2 cents. I just recently discovered this. For the past year, I've just been stealing licks from the cool lessons. It wasn't until I tried to record my versions of the lessons that I realized I'd been cheating myself the whole time. It's really made me a better player to have to learn the whole lesson and be able to play it up to speed. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My guitar bits on YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/duathlon70" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/duathlon70</a>

lcsdds View Member Profile	Jan 26 2009, 10:02 PM
Jan 26 2009, 10:02 PM	Learning Tone Seeker Posts: 2.054 Joined: 2-September 08	QUOTE (Jeff @ Jan 26 2009, 09:35 PM) You bring up an interesting point. I can learn how to play one of the lessons and make a video of myself playing it. That doesn't mean that I understand what I'm playing. It just means that I have memorized it. In order for me to truly know it and the context to which it applies, and be graded on it, I should be able to explain the concept/theory behind it to someone else. That would be the real test. How does one do that for this program? It seems that you would have to make an explanation video or text like the instructors do. So, without that, what would really be evaluated is your ability to play it but not necessarily understand it... Maybe the instructors should post a few questions along with the videos so that students can answer them and be scored that way too. I don't know that you really need to be able to explain the solo, it would be nice but especially for a beginner it can be overwhelming. I just know that with all the really cool lessons on here I don't know how many people are truly taking advantage of them by learning them all the way through until they are done. We are all on different levels. I could pretty easily play most or all of the "beginner" lessons on the site but I don't think that is beneficial to me. I want to learn the advanced stuff so that is what I am working on. Maybe I am way off but I just think that alot of us don't realize how beneficial it is to be able to learn the lesson from start to finish and up to tempo. I know I learned Muris's Canon lesson and it took me a few months to get it down and up to tempo. I had to change some of the licks from picking or hybrid picking to legato and tapping but I got it to where I could play it. The biggest thing I got out of that lesson I think was string skipping, and it was probably the first time I had learned to play a piece of music from start to finish with the backing track. The licks in that piece were difficult so I obviously had to slow them way down and work them up to speed. Even when you get to where you can play the licks up to speed now you have to figure out how to string them together fluidly and how to play them with the backing track and not just a metronome or drum machine. I had never really attempted string skippping at all until this lesson and I forced myself to keep at it for a few months. Now I notice on some of Muris's other lessons I am working on that the string skipping licks aren't as hard as they used to be. I am even getting better at the hybrid picking, which is another technique I never attempted before coming to this site. I'm babbling now. I just think that this program should really encourage people to pick a lesson they want to learn and really stick with it until they finish it. I'll quite preaching now. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Ctodd View Member Profile	Jan 30 2009, 11:17 PM
Jan 30 2009, 11:17 PM	GMC:er Posts: 493 Joined: 15-October 07 From: Pennsylvania	I was just thinking, and I had this thought. It would probably be necessary to set some sort of precedent when It comes to evaluating the lesson, so that no one gets "heart borken". Like If I nail 95% of the lesson, and worked my butt off to get it to sound that good, but I couldnt quite get that ONE lick down in Measure "x" exactly... I wouldn't expect to get 100% (or however we are scoring these) I don't think it's necessary, to be this strict...As I think more about this, maybe this is going a little to far... oh yeah.... And how about "GMC Evaluation Program" ? You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- QUOTE (Emir Hot @ Feb 5 2009, 03:41 AM) When you hear something that you really like, take guitar and kill the beast.

Jenkinson View Member Profile	Jan 31 2009, 01:21 AM
Jan 31 2009, 01:21 AM	GMC:er Posts: 269 Joined: 8-August 07 From: Austin / San Antonio , Texas	I support this idea, I would like to propose the idea of changing "Guitar God" to "MasterClass," and "Very Ecletic" to "Veteran." You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! This post has been edited by Jenkinson: Jan 31 2009, 04:41 AM -------------------- Practice Group

Col Roberts View Member Profile	Jan 31 2009, 09:22 AM
Jan 31 2009, 09:22 AM	Learning Roadie Posts: 287 Joined: 2-March 08 From: Australia	Another suggestion for the program name ... GMC Accreditation Program (GAP). You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Wabba View Member Profile	Jan 31 2009, 09:34 AM
Jan 31 2009, 09:34 AM	Learning Guitar Lord Posts: 213 Joined: 7-November 08 From: Finland	Great idea! Gives a reason to complete and upload lessons! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

kaznie_NL View Member Profile	Jan 31 2009, 10:07 AM
Jan 31 2009, 10:07 AM	Experienced Tone Seeker Posts: 4.809 Joined: 8-December 07 From: Hedel, Netherlands	I want to repeat something I said earlier, I think an MP3 file would do! A video takes more time, and the "doorstep" is higher! An MP3 is just plug in and hit record, video (for me) means plug in, click, record, and then syncing and producing video. I think we should use MP3s instead of videos, because it might double the degree of participation! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My YouTube Channel Here My Rec Takes Here --- GEAR --- Ibanez SA08LTD2 BAR Vox AD50VT Pod Farm Line 6 Pod Studio GX El Cheapo Strat Dunlop Slide Korg Toneworks AX5G

Jakub Luptovec View Member Profile	Jan 31 2009, 10:07 AM
Jan 31 2009, 10:07 AM	Learning Tone Guru Posts: 790 Joined: 15-July 07 From: Ostrava	GuitarAccrecitationProgram? GAP? Map my GAP You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- my youtube account with riffs and ideas: https://www.youtube.com/user/Phoenygzus

wrk View Member Profile	Jan 31 2009, 11:45 AM
Jan 31 2009, 11:45 AM	Learning Tone Seeker Posts: 1.027 Joined: 19-June 06 From: Paris/France (..used to be german)	QUOTE (kaznie_NL @ Jan 31 2009, 10:07 AM) I want to repeat something I said earlier, I think an MP3 file would do! A video takes more time, and the "doorstep" is higher! An MP3 is just plug in and hit record, video (for me) means plug in, click, record, and then syncing and producing video. I think we should use MP3s instead of videos, because it might double the degree of participation! True, audio only is of course easier and not everybody have the gear and experiences to record videos. On the other hand i think video is better for to evaluate skills. I have to practice way more to record a video and play the lesson from the beginning to the end as for an audio take where i can split the recording in 2-3 smaller parts. Nothing wrong with that ... for audio recording its not important to know how it was done, just that it sounds nice. Video adds this "live" moment a bit more. You are right, participation will be higher with MP3s and it will be even enough to evaluate musical skills, but in my opinion videos are telling more about technical skills. I guess it has to be defined what the goal of this program is (?).. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- www.musiclearningtools.net www.youtube.com/AndyVeil

Jenkinson View Member Profile	Jan 31 2009, 05:12 PM
Jan 31 2009, 05:12 PM	GMC:er Posts: 269 Joined: 8-August 07 From: Austin / San Antonio , Texas	I agree with wrk, I think a video is better for evaluation purposes. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Practice Group

Col Roberts View Member Profile	Feb 1 2009, 03:39 AM
Feb 1 2009, 03:39 AM	Learning Roadie Posts: 287 Joined: 2-March 08 From: Australia	Would love to hear from Kris, Andrew and Smells on this topic. Are you forming an idea on how this program will be run? I know there are many new things happening at GMC at the moment, but I am very keen to see this begin. Just a quick update ... You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Andrew Cockburn View Member Profile	Feb 2 2009, 03:06 PM
Feb 2 2009, 03:06 PM	Moderation Policy Director Posts: 10.459 Joined: 6-February 07 From: CT, USA	Thanks guys, we are still digesting all the ideas you have given us and we will be putting this program in place soon! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Check out my Instructor profile Live long and prosper ... My Stuff: Electric Guitars : Ibanez Jem7v, Line6 Variax 700, Fender Plus Strat with 57/62 Pickups, Line6 Variax 705 Bass Acoustic Guitars : Taylor 816ce, Martin D-15, Line6 Variax Acoustic 300 Nylon Effects : Line6 Helix, Keeley Modded Boss DS1, Keeley Modded Boss BD2, Keeley 4 knob compressor, Keeley OxBlood Amps : Epiphone Valve Jnr & Head, Cockburn A.C.1, Cockburn A.C.2, Blackstar Club 50 Head & 4x12 Cab

fatb0t View Member Profile	Feb 2 2009, 06:54 PM
Feb 2 2009, 06:54 PM	GMC:er Posts: 1.202 Joined: 25-November 07	I must say I'm very excited for this program. In every video game where there are achievements I get super hard core into (Call of Duty 4/5 & World of Warcraft for example). Think about how many times more rewarding it would be to get achievements for an actual skill instead of a digital video game that in 10 years will be a faded memory? You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

opeth.db View Member Profile	Feb 2 2009, 07:00 PM
Feb 2 2009, 07:00 PM	Learning Apprentice Player Posts: 1.156 Joined: 11-September 08 From: Cleveland, Ohio	Definately fatbot. I am too really excited to get this rolling! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Gear Ibanez RG570 Silver Jackson Ofset V Randy Rhodes Signature Mitchell Acoustic Custom Ibanez S series (Currently working on) X2 XDS95 Digital Wireless system Line 6 MKII 8 Channel USB Roland Mixer My Site www.shredwork.com Learn how to count. It's what separates the hack and the pros IMHO. -LCSDDS

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