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Muris Varajic
post Jan 24 2009, 10:48 PM
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Hi everyone!!

I've just found about this cool new unit,
it converts pure audio signal (guitar signal) into MIDI.
So, no need for MIDI pickups, extra drilling etc.
Of course, I haven't tried this by myself and I'm mostly guessing
but seems like a nice tool, specially for tabbing your own work,
check it out. smile.gif

http://www.sonuus.com/products.html


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post Jan 24 2009, 10:50 PM
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I'm struck by how well they're marketing it biggrin.gif


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Directly to tabs... That's pretty great biggrin.gif


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post Jan 24 2009, 10:52 PM
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Wow this gadget looks very interesting!! I really wonder if its accurate ! Too bad there isn't software that does the same thing..


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post Jan 24 2009, 10:53 PM
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Looks cool man smile.gif

Bought myself a GK-3 and a Boss GR20 a few months ago, the guy who sold it to me didn't send all the attachment pieces for the GK-3. so can't really test it out - so annoying!!! No idea where to get the replacement bits without getting a whole new midi pick up. Plus can't sell it without it as who would want one without the necissary parts! GRRRRRRRR.

I'll keep my eye on that though smile.gif


QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Jan 24 2009, 09:48 PM) *
Hi everyone!!

I've just found about this cool new unit,
it converts pure audio signal (guitar signal) into MIDI.
So, no need for MIDI pickups, extra drilling etc.
Of course, I haven't tried this by myself and I'm mostly guessing
but seems like a nice tool, specially for tabbing your own work,
check it out. smile.gif

http://www.sonuus.com/products.html


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Muris Varajic
post Jan 24 2009, 10:58 PM
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QUOTE (Bogdan Radovic @ Jan 24 2009, 10:52 PM) *
Wow this gadget looks very interesting!! I really wonder if its accurate ! Too bad there isn't software that does the same thing..


I tried some softwares but nothing works ok, lots of wrong notes.
Oh, and by the way,
this unit doesn't work in polifony, just mono stuff like solos etc
but you can easily add few notes in tab latter or if needed,
like double bends, stops... smile.gif


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Looks like an awesome device indeed smile.gif


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post Jan 24 2009, 11:01 PM
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Looks really interesting. I just googled a bit and found out that it costs 120€. Pretty much for such a small tool. I also found a cool video:



How does it work? Does that G2M send the audio signal in MIDI format to the computer where a program is converting the sound into saxophone, etc.?

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post Jan 24 2009, 11:01 PM
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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Jan 24 2009, 10:58 PM) *
this unit doesn't work in polifony, just mono stuff like solos etc
but you can easily add few notes in tab latter or if needed,
like double bends, stops... smile.gif


hmm... sounds like a normal software can do, too... only monophony.


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post Jan 24 2009, 11:03 PM
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QUOTE (utak3r @ Jan 24 2009, 11:01 PM) *
hmm... sounds like a normal software can do, too... only monophony.


Show me the software, I'm all for it!! smile.gif


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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Jan 24 2009, 11:03 PM) *
Show me the software, I'm all for it!! smile.gif


heh, have to find it, somewhere in those CDs....
You know, this hardware, if it's not a pickup, is only analyzing the sound, and that's all we knew before with software.... it's just guitar has a too complicated sound image rolleyes.gif


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QUOTE (utak3r @ Jan 24 2009, 11:12 PM) *
heh, have to find it, somewhere in those CDs....
You know, this hardware, if it's not a pickup, is only analyzing the sound, and that's all we knew before with software.... it's just guitar has a too complicated sound image rolleyes.gif


Absolutely, but it's also hardware combined with software,
I say we try it and see for our self. wink.gif


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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Jan 24 2009, 11:15 PM) *
I say we try it and see for our self. wink.gif


yeah, I'd love to hear I'm mistaken smile.gif


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Oops, I corrected the link to the video. smile.gif
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QUOTE (utak3r @ Jan 24 2009, 11:16 PM) *
yeah, I'd love to hear I'm mistaken smile.gif


Yep!

Ohh, I see Tony has entered the thread,
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As you asked so nicely Muris smile.gif .

The midi latency on the device is just about ok imho - 16-32ms. My Roland is better then that on the low E but cost quite a bit more. I'd be interested to know how well the unit copes with wolf notes etc and bends. See that it claims it can track bends - really? How well. What about harmonics and damped notes.

Midi direct to tab - there is software around, for instance 'Personal composer' claims to do it. There are few projects in a couple of European universities doing more work on the maths here as well. However AFAIK none of these are 100% yet, particularly on polyphonic material. If the pickup can do the scoring then great even with the latency and monophonic smile.gif .

Personally I think it would be great if the midi to score software worked - it would be great to see the score appear as you played.

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I have Roland GR 20 and need to get GK-3 pickup for it . This looks like a great alternative tough - just wondering about latency and accuracy for tabs. I can certainly see it being very useful for GMC lessons ! smile.gif


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QUOTE (tonymiro @ Jan 24 2009, 11:36 PM) *
As you asked so nicely Muris smile.gif .

The midi latency on the device is just about ok imho - 16-32ms. My Roland is better then that on the low E but cost quite a bit more. I'd be interested to know how well the unit copes with wolf notes etc and bends. See that it claims it can track bends - really? How well. What about harmonics and damped notes.

Midi direct to tab - there is software around, for instance 'Personal composer' claims to do it. There are few projects in a couple of European universities doing more work on the maths here as well. However AFAIK none of these are 100% yet, particularly on polyphonic material. If the pickup can do the scoring then great even with the latency and monophonic smile.gif .

Personally I think it would be great if the midi to score software worked - it would be great to see the score appear as you played.

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Thanks Tony! smile.gif

Yeah, latency is pretty descent and price is about 100$,
add no drilling and it seems very nice indeed.
I mostly need it to get some proper MIDI for tabbing,
imo none of those softwares or hardwares will be able to convert
everything 100%, doze of editing shall be always. smile.gif


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What a neat little toy smile.gif
I've got the Roland GI-20 and GK-3 pickup myself (no need for drilling with that one) that i'm quite pleased with. Wouldnt mind trying out this sonuus box though to check the differences. Judging by that video, it tracks bends better.

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Yes Muris for @100US dollars it looks a bargain even if it can't do all that they say. If it can its the bargain of the decade cool.gif . Also just for the tabbing the latency is almost irrelevant smile.gif .

Pedja - Not sure if it would work with the GR-20 since - if that's the same as a GI-20 - it hooks up via Roland's special multi-pin cable?

Ajmurrell - I'm pretty sure that a couple of UK guitar shops carry parts for the Roland systems. Try DV247, they're usually pretty good, also Soundslive (?) up in Heald Green near Manchester. If its the multipin cable you may be able to get on off ebay as well. Else contact Roland UK (tel 01792 702701) or http://www.roland.co.uk/.

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