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Leon
post Jan 3 2007, 02:32 PM
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When i improvise around the A minor pentatonice scale, everything i play sounds like some kind of blues.
I´m more into hard rock/ metal, so how do I do to make it sound more heavier and "metal"?
Is there like another way to execute the licks so they get another sound or something?
And is there any special notes in the scales that got a more heavier tone than others, combined with the right ones?

Thankyou.
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post Jan 4 2007, 05:02 AM
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Tritone, flat fifth, blues note, the Devil's tone, whatever you wanna call it, it makes for an evil sounding lick. I think you know but the Tritone is 2 notes 6 frets away. If you want a real aggresive sound try picking really hard, hit double stops like you're gonna blow someones head off, and play really fast legato.
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post Jan 4 2007, 08:36 AM
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Yes the tritone is a very good tool for metal - If you have problems finding the note I am sure people will help you in this thread!


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post Jan 4 2007, 11:15 AM
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by shredding biggrin.gif

you could also listen to some metal songs and check out their solos wink.gif


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post Jan 4 2007, 01:52 PM
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By staying noodling about in the pentatonic and using it as a scale, you are going to find it difficult to get a good aggressive metal sound. Most of the metal player I listen to, will use their primary scale (lets say the pentatonic), in conjunction with the diatonic (7 note major/minor/modes) scale. They'll also incorporate arpeggio and lick patterns based on both, and usually use the same rhythmic pattern, but switch the scale that they are doing it in. A good example of players, particularly pentatonic based players, who use this are Kirk Hammett, and Zakk Wylde, who has incorporated a lot of Randy Rhodes signature licks and patterns into his playing. (For a great example of this, listen to the end mini solo off Ozzy Osbournes "Bark at the Moon").

Blues music will tend to be very linear, and uses lines through pentatonic and blues scales. This is most likely developed because a blues guitar tries to imitate a singer, who will generally use a tightly grouped set of notes. Metal music licks tend to use wider intervals between the notes in a lot of licks, lending itself to techniques such as 3 note per string pentatonics, and sweep arpeggios.

I'd also agree with Kris and RIP that the tritone is a great interval to use, but it is also the "blue note" in blues music, so you may find yourself back to where you started. So I'd also advise using small patterns, of 3 or 4 notes, that repeat, and you can learn to play super fast, throughout the scale. Then try to work out some arpeggios that use the same type of rhythm as your 3 or 4 note patterns, and learn to move between them.
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post Jan 5 2007, 04:58 PM
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Many good answers here, helped me too smile.gif
you could also try palm muting the pentatonic, and maybe try playing it in e minor or d

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post Jan 6 2007, 12:53 AM
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Thanks for all the help, very much apreciated!
I will practise on all this!
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post Jan 6 2007, 06:40 AM
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Leon, one of the greatest things about this forum is the technique that you can pick up. Evey person that has replied is absolutely awesome. However, there is another side. You play blues because it sounds realy cool, and no doubt you can rock it! But try taking every suggestion you have gotten and feel it. What do you think when you think metal? How do you feel? Is it anger? Is it crazyness? Whatever it is......play it! Freaking jam it!!!! And play it loud!!!!
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QUOTE (Leon @ Jan 3 2007, 02:32 PM) *
When i improvise around the A minor pentatonice scale, everything i play sounds like some kind of blues.
I´m more into hard rock/ metal, so how do I do to make it sound more heavier and "metal"?
Is there like another way to execute the licks so they get another sound or something?
And is there any special notes in the scales that got a more heavier tone than others, combined with the right ones?

Thankyou.


Okey, so. I am new to the board and quite the beginner at playing but I would say play metal stuff. Take something with metal rythm, metal solos and stuff like that. And after a while of playing a certain style you develop a feelin' for the sound and then you can improvise with a more metal sound.

Believe me on this 'cause when I started everything sounded bluesy to me as well.. now I can get a more metally sound biggrin.gif
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