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post Jan 30 2009, 03:32 PM
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so i finally got it set up and working....



i first had a problem where some strings werent getting picked up, but i fixed that by setting the sensitivity


now this is kind of a lag....not really bad, and some notes (if i play somewhat quickly) do not get picked up by the pick up....right now i have the pick up at 1.5 mm below the strings instead of the 1mm if tells you...could this be the problem? or is this just how this pedal operates?


it is an expensive pedal, and i just want to get the most out of it, and if it doesnt work well for me, im going to return it


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post Jan 30 2009, 04:00 PM
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Sounds like it maybe latency Marc and any guitar synth has some latency. I get up to 15ms on bass notes on my Gi-20 with the older MkII pickup. It's usable and, for me as I use it for recording and creating sound-scapes so can edit afterwards, not an issue. I have however heard of people who have found the latency on their set-ups to be unusable.

Personally I'd give it time and be prepared to adapt to it rather then expecting it to adapt to you. I'm not being facetious here - playing a guitar synth just isn't the same as playing a guitar in my experience and may require some rethinking of what you do, how and why smile.gif .



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I friend of mine bought a pickup like this and connected to a Roland syntersizer effects box (for synth, not guitar) but there was latency and he could only play one tone at a time.
So there were really some limitations there.


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post Jan 31 2009, 04:38 AM
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yeah i did that(which i think is an awesome feature) and things are better...still needs to take care of the lag issue, but hopefully its something to fix in the pick up rather than the pedal since the pick up is a cheaper buy


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post Jan 31 2009, 09:53 AM
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QUOTE (Marc_Maiden @ Jan 30 2009, 03:32 PM) *
it is an expensive pedal, and i just want to get the most out of it, and if it doesnt work well for me, im going to return it


It's not about synth/pedal imo,
I believe you need to adapt your playing a bit as Tony said,
each note most be executed very smoothly in order to be recognized as midi,
no buzzing, no ghost notes, string noise etc,
specially if you're playing quickly/faster as you mentioned.


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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Jan 31 2009, 09:53 AM) *
It's not about synth/pedal imo,
I believe you need to adapt your playing a bit as Tony said,
each note most be executed very smoothly in order to be recognized as midi,
no buzzing, no ghost notes, string noise etc,
specially if you're playing quickly/faster as you mentioned.


Also some sounds have a very different ADSR envelope to a guitar. For some sounds it can take a long time for the sound to swell up and develop. You pretty much have think about how a particular sound develops and then match your playing.

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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Jan 31 2009, 03:53 AM) *
no buzzing, no ghost notes, string noise etc,
specially if you're playing quickly/faster as you mentioned.


I had one of those same pedals/pickups about a year ago and returned it because I couldn't get it to track worth a dang. Now that I've had a year to develop as a guitar player, I think maybe it was my 'sloppyness' that was the problem and not the unit at all.


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