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Andrew Cockburn
Feb 3 2009, 06:39 PM
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I finally had some time to spend on this smile.gif

Here is a mix for your comments - this is getting close to where I think it should be and I have already had some helpful input from Kris - now it's your turn!

Any and all comments welcome, whether its that your solo is too low, or I messed up the effects ... I particularly would welcome any input on tying this all together as well as possible since there are so many different elements - any tips on keeping the voices at the same level. that sort of thing as I am sure many of you are more experienced than I am at mixing!

My first comment on hearing this on a different system is that there is too much reverb - its amazing how many things you can hear when you take a step back from a mix ...

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Trond Vold
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Nice! Been really looking forward to hearing this smile.gif

All the lead tracks and vocal tracks sounds great to me.
But, a thing i noticed is that the rhythm-guitar is quite low, and the snare perhaps is a tad louder than i would have made it.

Thats atleast what i noticed in the first listen.

Edit: Just noticed that some of the bassdrums seems to have a lower velocity than the rest at some random locations.

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Feb 4 2009, 02:15 PM
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Thanks Trond - it's great to have another set of ears on this smile.gif I'll fix those points in the next mix I do!

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Sounds good to me!
It's great to hear everyone on there! :-)

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I agree with Trond, the rhythm guitar is not loud enough (lol, I know, this HAD to come from me... wink.gif ) and I would also reduce the reverb on the vocals a bit, even though this impression might change when the guitars are louder... I think I will just wait for the second mix and then throw in my opinion again wink.gif But in general it already sounds really cool smile.gif
PS: I think I would also turn up the keyboards a bit

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QUOTE (Marcus Siepen @ Feb 4 2009, 07:05 PM) *
I agree with Trond, the rhythm guitar is not loud enough (lol, I know, this HAD to come from me... wink.gif

laugh.gif That's always the case, a rhythm guitar can never get too loud wink.gif

I'm just picky with a couple small details you might want to concider.
There's a hiss at 4:44
The "Hoooo" at 2:39 sticks out a bit. I'd just lower it a tad.

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Mix sounds pretty good Andrew!! This was a fun collab!! Maybe you could tweak a little more my bass, on this system I'm listening it lacks definition and attack, also it could have been a little louder (to be in line with the drums)..Try EQing it a little in mids/treble to get it to cut through better and be heard in all frequencies (now its a little too basy)..You can try with some compression too...Looking forward to new mixes smile.gif

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Thanks guys, looking forward to using all of these ideas when I do a new mix - will be a week or so as I am away on business soon for a week.

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This will be a very interesting mix for sure, our album mixes can end in long discussions with 4 people involved, I am curious about this one now wink.gif

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I think the vocals are too loud. I agree with Marcus, rhythm guitar has to sound like a bomb on this song. Much more powerful and louder. Drums can be colored a bit heavier. To me they sound like instrument on its own, not really in the general song atmosphere. More gated reverb on snare as well. If the keyboards are recorded in MIDI, I would change the preset and make this hammond with more distortion. Good example is Depp Purple intro from the song "Perfect Strangers". I can hear that instruments are recorded healthy, just needs time to make them all work together. Sounds like it's on a good way for a good mix.

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Thanks Emir - noted!

Marcus - at least most people agree what needs to be tweaked - and it isn't just you that says the rhythm guitar needs to be louder wink.gif

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Sounds very cool Andrew, I've put it in my Winamp list ! smile.gif

One tip - we could use more cowbell! biggrin.gif

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QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Feb 5 2009, 09:16 PM) *
One tip - we could use more cowbell! biggrin.gif

laugh.gif Always, can't get too much!! biggrin.gif

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Some very good feedback here - this will of course result in a killer tune!

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Sounds great Andrew, but like previously said, I would too just raise the volume of those rhythm-guitars. smile.gif

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nice first mix Andrew .

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Guitars up, voices and snare a bit down, yeah,
rest of it really nice, good work Andrew! smile.gif

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True Andrew, most of us agree on what should be changed a bit, and guitars just can't be loud enough wink.gif

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QUOTE (Marcus Siepen @ Feb 6 2009, 02:06 PM) *
True Andrew, most of us agree on what should be changed a bit, and guitars just can't be loud enough wink.gif


Yes, what was I thinking? You can actually hear the vocals over the guitars? That is SO wrong wink.gif

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Hahaha, specially since we are talking about a Hard Rock song here... there HAS to be guitar domination tongue.gif

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