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post Feb 10 2009, 02:19 PM
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I've worked two days straight on this collab, I've yet to come up with anything I remotely like hahahaha.
Plus I know Emir is serious about critiquing these takes so I want to put my best foot forward so to speak...
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post Feb 10 2009, 02:19 PM
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QUOTE (Col Roberts @ Feb 10 2009, 10:48 AM) *
Here's my take.

[attachment=13399:Boogie_ColR_Mix.mp3]
[attachment=13402:Boogie_ColR_1_NOBT.mp3]
[attachment=13403:Boogie_ColR_2_NOBT.mp3]

Part 1 recorded dry, Part 2 recorded with just a little distortion, both in mono.

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...........Classic Reverb (Small Club)
...........Classic Delay 100ms, no feedback
Effects: Part 2
...........Classic Reverb (Small Hall)
...........Classic Delay 100ms, no feedback

If there are any problems, let me know.


Thank you.

How can delay be with no feedback? If I set feedback to 0 you won't hear any delay.


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post Feb 10 2009, 02:24 PM
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Yeah, using software effects is an option of course...
But I like to use my POD xt for all effects and everything, so I don't need to put extra load on the PC. IN the POD it's possible to reamp though, which is neat... That means I can record with full effects and everything and hear that, but only the dry, clean guitar signal gets recorded into the track(not even distortio or amp simulation or anything gets recorded). Then I can put the recording on a loop, and sit and adjust everything in the pod while the totally clean track gets played through the pod again. I can then rerecord that dry signal with my adjusted effect/amp/whatever. So basically I can change my mind a million times about the sound and never play that same piece again.


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QUOTE (Emir Hot @ Feb 10 2009, 01:19 PM) *
Thank you.

How can delay be with no feedback? If I set feedback to 0 you won't hear any delay.

That's what I was thinking biggrin.gif


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post Feb 10 2009, 02:26 PM
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QUOTE (fatb0t @ Feb 10 2009, 02:19 PM) *
I've worked two days straight on this collab, I've yet to come up with anything I remotely like hahahaha.
Plus I know Emir is serious about critiquing these takes so I want to put my best foot forward so to speak...


Yeah, you can't cheat this guy biggrin.gif
If something is done halfhearted you will proably hear about it in the review..

EDIT: Just improvised over this piece for a while. Reeeeally bluesy stuff coming outta my fingers here.. Nice! I'll keep it that way, I think.? Simple and without overplaying...

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post Feb 10 2009, 02:55 PM
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QUOTE (ztevie @ Feb 10 2009, 11:25 AM) *
Stereo recording is only necessary if you for example want delay bouncing differently in left and right channel (ping-pong delay maybe?). And maybe if you use Pod X3 with 2 tones together left/right, I think?


Even in this case you record mono. That's why you have L and R output. You arm 2 tracks for recording in your software and you record them simultaneously L and R both mono then you pan them. Otherwise I wouldn't be able to separate them if I want to change anything either on L or R side. For this collaboration that wouldn't be necessary as we are not producing million dollars record but in a proper studio they would record you separately.

I am not asking to send me the track without distortion. I don't have the same equipment as you so I can't recreate your original distorted sound. I am only talking about delays because if you have too much of it then it might not fit in the mix properly and I am not able to remove it.

Thanks for earlier explaination smile.gif

QUOTE (OrganisedConfusion @ Feb 10 2009, 10:56 AM) *
Also how do you record in mono and do you record left speaker or right speaker or does it not matter?


Let me explain this. Mono signal is not only L or R channel. Mono is when you bounce both L and R into one channel. So either you listen L or R you will hear the same thing, no panning works in mono. Just open your track for recording and set it to be a mono track. You will still hear your sound in both speakers but only one wave form will be recorded instead of two (L and R). Then I can pan your guitar in the mix somewhere and together with other panned instruments I will produce final mastered stereo track. I hope you understand this. Ask me if you have any problems. I can do a video tutorial about this if that helps.

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post Feb 11 2009, 06:38 AM
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QUOTE (Emir Hot @ Feb 11 2009, 12:19 AM) *
How can delay be with no feedback? If I set feedback to 0 you won't hear any delay.


Hi Emir,
With the VST delay I am using, if delay is set to some value and feedback is set to 0, I am getting the delay effect.
I looked at the help on delay effect and it showed this: "The Feedback parameter allows you to send some of the delayed audio back into the delay effect, so it will play again after the delay period. This can be used to create a long series of echoes."
Anyhow, if you need to add a feedback value I'll leave it to your judgement.

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post Feb 11 2009, 08:58 AM
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QUOTE (Col Roberts @ Feb 11 2009, 05:38 AM) *
Hi Emir,
With the VST delay I am using, if delay is set to some value and feedback is set to 0, I am getting the delay effect.
I looked at the help on delay effect and it showed this: "The Feedback parameter allows you to send some of the delayed audio back into the delay effect, so it will play again after the delay period. This can be used to create a long series of echoes."
Anyhow, if you need to add a feedback value I'll leave it to your judgement.


Ok I understand. It's a bit strange for delay to work like that but OK. I heard your take and I think I know how to get that sound. Thanks


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Hello Emir. How are you? I want to collaborate. I´m in!


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QUOTE (Sergio Dorado @ Feb 11 2009, 09:04 AM) *
Hello Emir. How are you? I want to collaborate. I´m in!


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post Feb 11 2009, 08:01 PM
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Hey Emir smile.gif

Do you have room for one more? Ill would like to give it a shot, and see how it goes.

Also i just want to make sure i get this right. I know you mentioned no effects like delay etc.. I use Guitar Rig in Pro Tools to record with. And load that as a effect on the track so i can get distortion etc. Is that ok? Or do you want me to just mic my amp and record raw distoreted and clean sound like that? I prefer to use Guitar Rig because if i turn up my Marshall amp where i want it its going to destroy my whole neighborhod. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE (Nermin @ Feb 11 2009, 07:01 PM) *
Hey Emir smile.gif

Do you have room for one more? Ill would like to give it a shot, and see how it goes.

Also i just want to make sure i get this right. I know you mentioned no effects like delay etc.. I use Guitar Rig in Pro Tools to record with. And load that as a effect on the track so i can get distortion etc. Is that ok? Or do you want me to just mic my amp and record raw distoreted and clean sound like that? I prefer to use Guitar Rig because if i turn up my Marshall amp where i want it its going to destroy my whole neighborhod. biggrin.gif


Hi

Yes you can play, we have a place for you smile.gif You can use your Guitar Rig but please switch off delays and reverbs. Anything else is ok.

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QUOTE (Emir Hot @ Feb 11 2009, 03:40 PM) *
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Yes you can play, we have a place for you smile.gif You can use your Guitar Rig but please switch off delays and reverbs. Anything else is ok.

Cheers

p.s. Where are you from mate?


Ok i anderstand now.
I am from Bosnia ( Stolac) . Where you from? smile.gif

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QUOTE (Nermin @ Feb 11 2009, 09:51 PM) *
Ok i anderstand now.
I am from Bosnia ( Stolac) . Where you from? smile.gif


Bosnia, Tuzla but living in London UK smile.gif


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Emir I have to pull out from your collab. You know I had trouble with my computer, now I have new one and need to catch up with my collaboration and lessons. If I manage to pull it all off I might record take for you but no promises !

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QUOTE (Pedja Simovic @ Feb 11 2009, 10:32 PM) *
Emir I have to pull out from your collab. You know I had trouble with my computer, now I have new one and need to catch up with my collaboration and lessons. If I manage to pull it all off I might record take for you but no promises !

Sorry man !


Ok Pedja I understand. It is more important to fix your computer of course. I will take you out from the list but if you decide to come back you are welcome.


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Hi Emir! I'll give this one a shot.
I was a little worried about making sure I could finish Muris's Lydian collab. But now that that's done, I think I can focus on this for nine days.

Killer backing. I'll do my best.

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QUOTE (JamesT @ Feb 12 2009, 03:54 AM) *
Hi Emir! I'll give this one a shot.
I was a little worried about making sure I could finish Muris's Lydian collab. But now that that's done, I think I can focus on this for nine days.

Killer backing. I'll do my best.

Thanks,
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Ok, let me in...I'll see if I can furfill the deadline


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QUOTE (Rated Htr @ Feb 12 2009, 03:04 PM) *
Ok, let me in...I'll see if I can furfill the deadline


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