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post Feb 11 2009, 05:46 AM
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We have a very nice Schecter here at my music store. Funny you should mention this because I was just shooting a video review on it for the website today at work. I'll let you guys have a peek before I submit it if you want. Should be done in the next few days smile.gif

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post Feb 11 2009, 09:12 AM
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As my signature might suggest, I'm quite fond of Schecters ^^

I have a Schecter Omen 6, and I love it! I wanna buy a Schecter Tempest or C-1 Classic next.. The C-1 is just beautiful!


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post Feb 11 2009, 09:23 AM
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Had a C1+ some time ago...

Pros: Very nice quality for the money. Wellbuilt. Neck felt nice altough a little thicker than the normal Ibanez racer necks.

Cons: A little too dark sounding for me, almost muddy, I like clear and articulate tone from the guitar. The dark/muddyness probably come from the mahogany body and neck.
I don't like painted necks, feel sticky, I like maple with the satin feel.
The duncan designed pickups was not so funny, swapped them after a month.


Sum: Very nice guitar for the money. If you like darker tone that is...


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post Feb 11 2009, 09:45 AM
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I have one of those Schecter C-1 Classics in antique amber smile.gif
very nice sounding and great guitar.
but I would recommend the Schecter C-1 Hellraiser FR for your preferences.
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post Feb 11 2009, 10:10 AM
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I've got a Schecter C-1 Classic AA. And I *love* it. They haven't got them at the local music store tough. So I took a chance and ordered it online. Couldn't stop to smile the day it arrived. But I already wrote about that in this thread. One has to be very careful about muting strings because of the ridiculous amount of sustain. So far every body who saw it was very impressed. The only thing I dislike about it is that I'm not able to get that heavy metal rhythm tone I'm looking for. So... I'll probably buy myself a hellraiser. And maybe a Hollywood Classic or Stiletto too! I'm definitely a schecter fanboy now laugh.gif

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post Feb 11 2009, 10:19 AM
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Oh my just saw the "devil" models and like them so much wacko.gif They don't have a whammy, but do anyone has any opinions about these guitars?tongue.gif


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post Feb 11 2009, 10:21 AM
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QUOTE (skennington @ Feb 11 2009, 02:19 AM) *
Sorry man, more teasing here.. tongue.gif Not sure of tonality difference with the 89 but this looks like a beast...


http://cgi.ebay.com/Schecter-HELLRAISER-C-...6QQcmdZViewItem


laugh.gif yea I saw that one!

thanks for the replies guys, keep em coming, I appreciate all your opinions, the "Hellraiser" as far as FR etc seems to be the one coming out on top.

ztevie- thanks for the mini review, that was great! smile.gif


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post Feb 11 2009, 03:25 PM
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I have a Schecter HellRaiser C-1 FR with a quilt top...

First off, it has an original Floyd Rose - not some crappy reissue or licensed version - the real deal. Mine has EMG 81/85s now I've heard everyone blabbing on and on about the lack of clean tones you can get from these pickups. I think these people don't understand the beauty of the volume and tone pots... When you roll back the volume and chip a little bit of the tone the clean channel of my Fender Superchamp XD (which is a fabulous practice amp BTW) rivals my old mans 1970 Stratocaster. I mean it's not dead on but I'm just saying these pickups are more versatile than everyone will lead you to believe.
Also they have a coil tap so you can put these EMGs into a single coil mode which is REALLY nice for clean tones...
The quilt top is pretty spectacular...
The neck at the base of the guitar gets very wide and when you hold this guitar in your hands it really exudes quality of craftsmanship.

I tried one in guitar center one day and was completely blown away by it the next day I bought one on eBay hahha.
Try one!

Plus they're pretty reasonably priced..
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post Feb 11 2009, 03:29 PM
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I'd get a Caparison instead Chris. You know you want a Horus tongue.gif


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post Feb 11 2009, 03:31 PM
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QUOTE (29a @ Feb 11 2009, 10:10 AM) *
The only thing I dislike about it is that I'm not able to get that heavy metal rhythm tone I'm looking for.

- Jonas


Palm-muting riffing was not so easy on my C1 either. Because of the mahogany, I could never get the tightness I wanted
It was much better when I threw out the duncan designed and put a EMG 81 in bridge. But even though the 81 must be "the mother of palm-muting", I still wasn't 100% happy.

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post Feb 11 2009, 03:31 PM
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Also Schaller S-FRT II are the best whammy systems in my opinion and all Caparisons have them. So much better than Ibanez FR systems. I could throw my guitar out of the window and tie a rope to the whammy bar and swing it round and it wouldn't go out of tune laugh.gif


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post Feb 11 2009, 03:31 PM
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QUOTE (fatb0t @ Feb 11 2009, 02:25 PM) *
I have a Schecter HellRaiser C-1 FR with a quilt top...

First off, it has an original Floyd Rose - not some crappy reissue or licensed version - the real deal. Mine has EMG 81/85s now I've heard everyone blabbing on and on about the lack of clean tones you can get from these pickups. I think these people don't understand the beauty of the volume and tone pots... When you roll back the volume and chip a little bit of the tone the clean channel of my Fender Superchamp XD (which is a fabulous practice amp BTW) rivals my old mans 1970 Stratocaster. I mean it's not dead on but I'm just saying these pickups are more versatile than everyone will lead you to believe.
Also they have a coil tap so you can put these EMGs into a single coil mode which is REALLY nice for clean tones...
The quilt top is pretty spectacular...
The neck at the base of the guitar gets very wide and when you hold this guitar in your hands it really exudes quality of craftsmanship.

I tried one in guitar center one day and was completely blown away by it the next day I bought one on eBay hahha.
Try one!

Plus they're pretty reasonably priced..


Thanks for that smile.gif it certainly seems that everyone that owns one absolutly loves it!

I wish I could get to try one, although its possibly a good thing that I cant so I remain with the cash in MY pocket laugh.gif


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post Feb 11 2009, 03:42 PM
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Don't own one, but I've played a few at Guitar Center, I was impressed by sound, looks and price, To me it was as good looking as a PRS, and played really nice, how these people managed to deliver such a nice guitar for $600 puzzles me.


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post Feb 11 2009, 05:04 PM
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QUOTE (ztevie @ Feb 11 2009, 03:31 PM) *
Palm-muting riffing was not so easy on my C1 either. Because of the mahogany, I could never get the tightness I wanted
It was much better when I threw out the duncan designed and put a EMG 81 in bridge. But even though the 81 must be "the mother of palm-muting", I still wasn't 100% happy.
My Ibanez is made out of mahogany too and has a tight sound. Many other metal axes are made out of mahagony too so I don't think that's the problem. Anyway, I'm quite certain the hellraiser is an excellent guitar for playing heavy riffs. So I'm sure they'll complement each other nicely.

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post Feb 11 2009, 05:10 PM
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QUOTE (ztevie @ Feb 11 2009, 09:31 AM) *
Palm-muting riffing was not so easy on my C1 either. Because of the mahogany, I could never get the tightness I wanted
It was much better when I threw out the duncan designed and put a EMG 81 in bridge. But even though the 81 must be "the mother of palm-muting", I still wasn't 100% happy.


You know sometimes a pickup change is not required, what you are missing is certain frecuencies on the guitar, Increasing the value of the Pots makes it more trebly, or decreasing the value of the capacitor as well, I suspect you want more treble so it cuts, just assuming, some audio samples of what you have and what you would like it to be would help.


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post Feb 11 2009, 05:41 PM
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Changing the capacitor might actually be worth a try. Or just bypassing the whole tone control for now. I'll try that when I get bored. But I think its not just missing frequencies that could be fixed using an EQ, and I played around with an EQ for quite some time. It's quite hard to describe, it sounds a bit like a wah pedal to me.

- Jonas

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post Feb 11 2009, 06:46 PM
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QUOTE (Jose Mena @ Feb 11 2009, 05:10 PM) *
You know sometimes a pickup change is not required, what you are missing is certain frecuencies on the guitar, Increasing the value of the Pots makes it more trebly, or decreasing the value of the capacitor as well, I suspect you want more treble so it cuts, just assuming, some audio samples of what you have and what you would like it to be would help.


I don't have that guitar any more. Swapping pickups made a huge difference, so after I put the EMG's in there it all was so much better.
Still, there were a lack of tightness in the palm-muting, it wasn't much, but there was a muddiness I could never EQ out of it. I bypassed the tone control, and used 500k pots, so it wasn't that. I could have tried 1M pots, but didn't...
I believe too much eqing a bassy or trebley guitar is not good, so I try to find a guitar that sounds close to my ideal tone from the very start in the chain, the guitar itself...
I think everyone who plan to buy a new guitar should try it out acoustically first, listen to how the wood respond to picking. You will hear big differences even if you'd think an electric guitar unplugged is so silent. You will feel the sustain and the vibrations in the guitar, and, if the character feels bassy, trebley, clear, muddy or whatever...
I look for guitars that are open-sounding, rich in harmonics, rich in sustain. I do not look for guitars that feel muddy or shrill.. I like mids! wink.gif

Anyway, that Schecter wasn't bad by all means. It was actually very nice. The only thing I didn't like was that slightly muddy feeling. Which may not appear in all C1+ guitars, or may not be a problem for someone else...
It was nice for soaring sustain-rich solos and crunchy rhytm though, I guess it's hard to get everything 100% in one guitar.


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QUOTE (ztevie @ Feb 11 2009, 06:46 PM) *
So, so I try to find a guitar that sounds close to my ideal tone from the very start in the chain, the guitar itself...
I think everyone who plan to buy a new guitar should try it out acoustically first, listen to how the wood respond to picking. You will hear big differences even if you'd think an electric guitar unplugged is so silent. You will feel the sustain and the vibrations in the guitar, and, if the character feels bassy, trebley, clear, muddy or whatever...
I look for guitars that are open-sounding, rich in harmonics, rich in sustain. I do not look for guitars that feel muddy or shrill.. I like mids! wink.gif
Hm I think my C-1 Classic has actually loads of mids. The thing that it seems to lack is treble for that rhythm tone I'm looking for.

QUOTE (ztevie @ Feb 11 2009, 06:46 PM) *
Anyway, that Schecter wasn't bad by all means. It was actually very nice. The only thing I didn't like was that slightly muddy feeling. Which may not appear in all C1+ guitars, or may not be a problem for someone else...
It was nice for soaring sustain-rich solos and crunchy rhytm though, I guess it's hard to get everything 100% in one guitar.
I agree here. And honestly I do rather have one great sound than dozens of average ones. And another great thing about this schecter guitars is, I can buy a whole bunch of them for the price of a single PRS Custom 24. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE (Smells @ Feb 10 2009, 09:51 PM) *
Not sure I`m in the market for anything at the moment (although I can be easily swayed laugh.gif)


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Do anyone of you know if there are any other Schecter baritone guitars except "C-1 EX Baritone Blackjack" or if they make them in any other colour than black. I have a black guitar and a black bass so far so I'm not getting another black guitar. tongue.gif


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