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post Jan 11 2007, 02:04 AM
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I know that I shouldn't be worrying about this because I am only 10 but I wannt to be Pro Guitarist when I grow up and I wan't to write my own songs so I really want a lesson on songwriting because I SUCK at it. sad.gif


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post Jan 11 2007, 06:14 PM
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Wow your only ten and your getting started at guitar. That's great! I think a songwritting lesson would be a pretty good idea also. biggrin.gif
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post Jan 11 2007, 06:31 PM
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Wow your only ten and your getting started at guitar. That's great! I think a songwritting lesson would be a pretty good idea also. biggrin.gif

Getting Started! What are you talking about?!? I started playing guitar when I was 7 years old!


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post Jan 11 2007, 06:31 PM
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I wanna get a lesson on how to build a time machine, go back to when I was 10 and start playing guitar seriously.

So Kris, how bout it? tongue.gif


Back on topics; songwriting is a decent idea I think. Learn the basics like how to structure (intro, verse, chorus, verse, solo, outro whatever do I know).
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post Jan 11 2007, 06:33 PM
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Yeah - age of 10 is a great age to start playing guitar! I started at 11.

On-topic: there is no formula for songwriting - there are some basic structures that where used for ages like: intro-verse-chorus-verse-chorus-solo-chorus-outro. But as time passed people start to think of new structures and it depends on each person. To write a song you must have a melody - the main piece of song, it doesn't have to be long, than it's just a matter of how you develop it into a song. Melody is something you will have to come out with.

Try to do the following: there are certain bands you like to listen to - take a piece of paper and listen to their song and try to write down the structure of their songs you like i said above: verse, chorus, bridge...
After writing 2 or 3 songs compare the structure and you'll know how this particular band is working with their songs.

Hope i helped at least a bit.
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Back on topics; songwriting is a decent idea I think. Learn the basics like how to structure (intro, verse, chorus, verse, solo, outro whatever do I know).


We were writing the same thing at the same time biggrin.gif biggrin.gif


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post Jan 11 2007, 06:37 PM
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For thelast time I started guitar when I was 7 years old!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

QUOTE (Pavel @ Jan 11 2007, 05:33 PM) *
Yeah - age of 10 is a great age to start playing guitar! I started at 11.

On-topic: there is no formula for songwriting - there are some basic structures that where used for ages like: intro-verse-chorus-verse-chorus-solo-chorus-outro. But as time passed people start to think of new structures and it depends on each person. To write a song you must have a melody - the main piece of song, it doesn't have to be long, than it's just a matter of how you develop it into a song. Melody is something you will have to come out with.

Try to do the following: there are certain bands you like to listen to - take a piece of paper and listen to their song and try to write down the structure of their songs you like i said above: verse, chorus, bridge...
After writing 2 or 3 songs compare the structure and you'll know how this particular band is working with their songs.

Hope i helped at least a bit.
Good luck in composing!
We were writing the same thing at the same time biggrin.gif biggrin.gif


Yeah, that helped alot but what I was really looking for is how to write solos.


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post Jan 11 2007, 08:17 PM
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QUOTE (Guitar Master123 @ Jan 11 2007, 06:37 PM) *
For thelast time I started guitar when I was 7 years old!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, that helped alot but what I was really looking for is how to write solos.


You bring up a good point of discussion. I think it's hard to do. One way that I have found that helps me a lot is to stay focused on the melody. Think of the words and try to write a solo like you would be singing it with your guitar. Just like you would add another verse but with only guitar notes. That could serve as the base for your solo and then throw in a couple of riffs that make it a little more interesting but not overbearing. Put a short but interesting run, perhaps a descending or ascending scale right before a main riff that follows the melody.

List to someone like George Benson who sings the guitar notes as he plays them. That's what I'm talking about. Get a good feel for the song. Another example is Nirvana's "smells like teen spirit". Not that the solo will blow you away, but it is something that you can remember quite easily because it's like the verse.

Never try to write a solo to impress someone with speed. The general public will tune you out because they are not all guitarists. They see a song as a whole and complete story. We, as guitarists, might see a solo as the focal point/interest part of the song.

Make each note count. But most importantly get a base riff to start with. One that is memorable and catchy and then work it from there. Try to land on the root note when you finish the solo. If you don't do that, at least try to bend the pitch to it on the string that your on when it's over.

Hope this helps.

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post Jan 11 2007, 11:18 PM
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QUOTE (jeff @ Jan 11 2007, 01:17 PM) *
You bring up a good point of discussion. I think it's hard to do. One way that I have found that helps me a lot is to stay focused on the melody. Think of the words and try to write a solo like you would be singing it with your guitar. Just like you would add another verse but with only guitar notes. That could serve as the base for your solo and then throw in a couple of riffs that make it a little more interesting but not overbearing. Put a short but interesting run, perhaps a descending or ascending scale right before a main riff that follows the melody.

List to someone like George Benson who sings the guitar notes as he plays them. That's what I'm talking about. Get a good feel for the song. Another example is Nirvana's "smells like teen spirit". Not that the solo will blow you away, but it is something that you can remember quite easily because it's like the verse.

Never try to write a solo to impress someone with speed. The general public will tune you out because they are not all guitarists. They see a song as a whole and complete story. We, as guitarists, might see a solo as the focal point/interest part of the song.

Make each note count. But most importantly get a base riff to start with. One that is memorable and catchy and then work it from there. Try to land on the root note when you finish the solo. If you don't do that, at least try to bend the pitch to it on the string that your on when it's over.

Hope this helps.

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Excellent advice if I do say so myself.
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post Jan 12 2007, 07:06 AM
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Eh, I'm 26 and I just started.

Can you define what is a verse, bridge, chorus, etc?
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post Jan 13 2007, 05:52 AM
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Chorus: the same rythym played every other time
Verse: Usually same rythym but different singing lines
Brigde: It divides the song in 2, usually in the middle of the song
I am not sure if my definitions are that acurate. unsure.gif


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post Jan 16 2007, 07:10 PM
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Interesting discussions here!

When I write a solo the one way for me to get going is - put the guitar down, think of a melody. When I try to duplicate it on the guitar it usually turns out very different, but hey that's the beauty of it!

Then I'll think of which part of the melody needs some tension - and I'll add whichever speedlick I feel comfortable with for the moment.


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post Jan 16 2007, 08:37 PM
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you started at 10 too. I just kinda learned songs by ear how about you (I'm 14 now) biggrin.gif
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