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Velvet Roger
post May 2 2009, 05:09 PM
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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Apr 29 2009, 04:16 PM) *
I knew you're gonna understand my point Roger,
those details can really make a huge difference after all!
Keep up the work and let me know when you
have a new recording on the way. smile.gif


Here is a new take of the Funk Rhythm lesson. This time at full speed (105 bpm) and I tried to get some dancing in as well (however, I need beers for that normally tongue.gif ).



Anyways, it's not perfect (e.g. not so happy with the first couple of bars), but hopefully certain aspects have improved a bit. Was quite busy the last days with band practice and such (my own funk song at practice went 10x better than before though .. so it certainly pays off to do this smile.gif smile.gif .

Cheers
Roger

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post May 2 2009, 08:11 PM
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Yeah, I can feel the groove Roger, much better regarding that topic!

Now there are some spots where you have only technical issues
to they sound somehow sloppy and not so clean,
you might wanna break it down into smaller sections,
play slow just to catch up your picking and see if everything is going as planned
and then build up the speed slowly.
Now need to play it too slow tho, maybe 15-20 bpm slower than full tempo.

Good work! smile.gif


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post May 2 2009, 08:28 PM
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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ May 2 2009, 09:11 PM) *
Yeah, I can feel the groove Roger, much better regarding that topic!

Now there are some spots where you have only technical issues
to they sound somehow sloppy and not so clean,
you might wanna break it down into smaller sections,
play slow just to catch up your picking and see if everything is going as planned
and then build up the speed slowly.
Now need to play it too slow tho, maybe 15-20 bpm slower than full tempo.

Good work! smile.gif


Thanks Muris.

I know exactly what you mean, but the really frustrating bit (as always) here is that I can play it much cleaner and less sloppy once I don't hit the record button or put on the webcam tongue.gif.

Nevertheless, I will certainly keep on this lesson doing it much slower to really notice what I am doing. Can't hurt smile.gif

Any new lesson I can take a look at as well? wink.gif

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QUOTE (Velvet Roger @ May 2 2009, 09:28 PM) *
Thanks Muris.

I know exactly what you mean, but the really frustrating bit (as always) here is that I can play it much cleaner and less sloppy once I don't hit the record button or put on the webcam tongue.gif.

Nevertheless, I will certainly keep on this lesson doing it much slower to really notice what I am doing. Can't hurt smile.gif

Any new lesson I can take a look at as well? wink.gif

Cheers
Roger


I know that rec button makes us all real problems!
Have you ever tried to put whole thing in loop,
record dozen of takes and simply pick the best one? smile.gif

As for new lesson I suggest Luke!!
Nothing too fast but still full of many important stuff like tone,
vibrato, attack etc.
Perhaps you tried this already?

Here's backing for you. smile.gif

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post May 3 2009, 12:00 AM
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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ May 2 2009, 11:28 PM) *
I know that rec button makes us all real problems!
Have you ever tried to put whole thing in loop,
record dozen of takes and simply pick the best one? smile.gif

As for new lesson I suggest Luke!!
Nothing too fast but still full of many important stuff like tone,
vibrato, attack etc.
Perhaps you tried this already?

Here's backing for you. smile.gif

Attached File  In_Style_Of_Luke___BT_65_bpm.mp3 ( 1.12MB ) Number of downloads: 2


Yeah, to record I use the loop functionality all the time ... but don't worry, I notice that the process is improving over time, basically the same story as with playing for other ppl... you just have to get over it smile.gif

Regarding the lesson: never tried that one before, but it's a great lesson ... will get on it tomorrow smile.gif


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post May 3 2009, 12:07 AM
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QUOTE (Velvet Roger @ May 3 2009, 01:00 AM) *
Yeah, to record I use the loop functionality all the time ... but don't worry, I notice that the process is improving over time, basically the same story as with playing for other ppl... you just have to get over it smile.gif

Regarding the lesson: never tried that one before, but it's a great lesson ... will get on it tomorrow smile.gif


Yeah, as the time goes we get more confident and everything comes in place nicely,
looking forward to your take and please keep working on other lessons as well! smile.gif


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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ May 3 2009, 01:07 AM) *
Yeah, as the time goes we get more confident and everything comes in place nicely,
looking forward to your take and please keep working on other lessons as well! smile.gif


Will certainly keep working on the others .... after just practicing the Luke lesson for a couple of minutes I already notice that several aspects of my playing are improved a lot so I can actually manage this lesson probably (wasn't the case 2 months ago for sure smile.gif). Cool lesson btw!

This gets my motivation even higher rolleyes.gif .


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post May 3 2009, 01:17 PM
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It's all about hours we spend with the guitar and whole effort
but everything pays back nicely, no doubt! smile.gif

Btw, if you have any problems with Luke lesson, specially with timing,
you can check out this thread where I uploaded
a slower take on it, easier to follow everything. wink.gif


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Thanks Muris! smile.gif


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Just a quick note that I am quite busy with work currently, and in the evenings stuffed with other things (like band practice tonight, squash etc).

Will practice regularly though and hope to have something uploaded by the weekend smile.gif

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No problem Roger,
let me know when you have something! smile.gif


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Hey Muris,

Just to update you a little:

1) Funk rhythm lesson is now better regarding rhythmic placement as far as I can judge it, and will continue to work on that for the next days and will post a video when I am satisfied smile.gif

2) Luke lesson: did not have time the last 3 days to practice, but today I achieved quite an improvement and can more or less play the lesson at 50 bpm with OK timing. Only struggling a bit still with bar 9, 11 and 12. I noticed that I find it somehow quite hard to do chromatic pull-offs smoothly with 4 fingers on 2 strings after each other wink.gif . Anyways, will try to record a video of that as well in the next days.

Am quite busy currently as well with my band, as I am going to sing in the band as well ... and that brings a totally different dimension into my performance, which is taking up a bit of time.

Sorry for the delays (tomorrow I have 2 birthday parties and we have 'Mothersday' in the Netherlands ... so going to visit 4 homes in one day which are spread around 150 km from each other tongue.gif, but you will get something from me soon hopefully smile.gif

Cheers
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post May 9 2009, 10:52 PM
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Despite of lack of recording I must say that I'm really glad to hear
that you're working a lot with the bend,=
and specially that you'll be doing vocals too, way to ! smile.gif

Regarding Luke lesson and chromatic pull-offs,
it's natural to have problems with that kind of licks
IF you haven't played something similar before,
actually doing pull-offs or hammer-ons with all 4 fingers in a row
just might be the hardest combo available,
practice it slow until your fingers get the idea on how to execute that.

Looking forward to new takes Roger,
have fun at parties etc! smile.gif


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post May 11 2009, 02:19 PM
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Hey Muris,

Here is another try on the funk rhythm lesson. I believe that the rhythmic placement is better now, however I noticed afterwards that I danced less wink.gif . Hopefully this one is good enough for the REC program wink.gif .




Anyways, looking forward to your thoughts on this one smile.gif

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It IS getting better Roger!! smile.gif

Rhythmic placement is pretty much on place
except those muted triplets that you've been missing, at 0:23.
They are not crucial but give really cool flavor to Funk, muted or ghost notes.

And the last note B should be a lot shorter,
whole rhythm section stops immediately and you should do the same,
do not let it ring a lot, that's the point of that kind of endings,
short, accurate in in your face!

Good take, worthy for REC, no doubt. smile.gif


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Great, thanks for the heads up! smile.gif

Since yesterday evening late, I suddenly noticed that I was putting too much pressure on the fretboard with my playing to get the placement right and after I did this much less, not only this lesson went much better, but all my playing went great in comparison to earlier .... kind of an eureka moment I guess for myself smile.gif


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post May 11 2009, 03:52 PM
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Eureka is best feel ever Roger!! smile.gif

I cannot say if you have applied too much pressure
but one thing is for sure, we need to be as much relaxed as possible
and that very often means less pressure as well.
However I would keep working on applying more attack with the picking,
it's sometimes very helpful for timing, articulation etc.
And you'll always know when you apply too much, it'll sound wrong. smile.gif


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Hey Muris,

As discussed this afternoon in chat: here is my first try on the Luke lesson. Kinda sloppy still (but don't have any time left today to get that sorted now mad.gif ): timing is not perfect at several places as well as some bends are out of pitch, but you were definitely right to record something prior to my holidays, which start tomorrow smile.gif

After I return I will keep on going with this lesson until it's OK regarding timing and will then move on to the 65 bpm speed as well.

Any helpful pointers are always appreciated smile.gif

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post May 17 2009, 11:37 PM
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Hi Roger and thanks for recording!!
I know that you have a lot on your mind atm so it's very appreciated. smile.gif

Here are few pointer of course. wink.gif

This added not on bend at 0:08 is always tricky when you try it for the first time.
And you have to be very focused when doing it,
your hand needs to keep bend fully while pinky is adding a note,
of course it's matter of practicing but concentration as well,
you have to say it "hold right there until it's over!!".
And you can also try it with tapping every once in a while
until you're able to play it perfectly with pinky.

Rest of the bends were pretty fine imo but I noticed that you've been
using pinky very often for some other bends like at 0:17 and 0:45 ,
you can play those much easily with ring finger to get better control
of the bend and eventually apply some vibrato,
it's very hard to control bend with pinky imo, no need to torture yourself.

Timing was like 95% ok tho!
There are some tiny problems with faster part
but I'm sure you'll clean that in no time with some more facused
practicing on that specific part.

I wish you some great time at holidays Roger
and thanks for the take, it was VERY nice! smile.gif


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