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Muris Varajic
post Apr 6 2009, 08:45 PM
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QUOTE (lcsdds @ Apr 6 2009, 07:23 PM) *
Hi Muris.
Here is a better backing....Jer made if for me..should sound A LOT better than the midi file.


Thanks Monte, gonna record something for you right now. smile.gif

Btw, we're missing bass guitar in both versions,
maybe there is one but it's mixed too low or som, dunno. smile.gif


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post Apr 6 2009, 08:50 PM
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Nope, no bass. There wasnt any in the midi and I dont own a bass....

We'll get on in there before all is said and done. I can borrow one from a buddy. \m/ \m/



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post Apr 6 2009, 08:52 PM
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Sorry...I told you I'm a hack. smile.gif laugh.gif tongue.gif

Besides...bass just gets in the way of your guitar... laugh.gif tongue.gif
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post Apr 6 2009, 09:29 PM
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QUOTE (lcsdds @ Apr 6 2009, 09:52 PM) *
Besides...bass just gets in the way of your guitar... laugh.gif tongue.gif


Almost. biggrin.gif

Here's a take, have a listen and lets discuss both, your and mine. smile.gif

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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Apr 6 2009, 03:29 PM) *
Almost. biggrin.gif

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post Apr 6 2009, 09:43 PM
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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Apr 6 2009, 09:29 PM) *
Almost. biggrin.gif

Here's a take, have a listen and lets discuss both, your and mine. smile.gif

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Awesome Muris!!! Took you awhile to come up with it though.. tongue.gif

So do you think I should try and redo the whole thing? Your take was more shreddy than mine....which was way cool...I liked how you had a basic motif and spiced it up some with the shreddy lines thrown in there.

What can I say....YOU DA MAN!! tongue.gif laugh.gif
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Muris Varajic
post Apr 6 2009, 09:55 PM
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QUOTE (lcsdds @ Apr 6 2009, 10:43 PM) *
Awesome Muris!!! Took you awhile to come up with it though.. tongue.gif

So do you think I should try and redo the whole thing? Your take was more shreddy than mine....which was way cool...I liked how you had a basic motif and spiced it up some with the shreddy lines thrown in there.

What can I say....YOU DA MAN!! tongue.gif laugh.gif


Damn, I even tried NOT to play shreddy, gonna do another one then. laugh.gif

On the topic, you spotted nicely that I was using one (actually 2) motifs
and I spiced it with some extra lines but also with different techniques in execution.
2nd motif is the one that starts with prebeat and first note on F#m chord
is bended note on B string, progression is also changed at that point so
you can't miss it.
That leads to another conclusion, I also used different starting point for
those 2 motifs, for 1st one I gave almost 2 beats free every time it appears
but for 2nd one I played even on prebeat.
And I played different rhythmic groups for both motif
to get as much difference as possible!
Those are things you can always look at when composing or just improvising,
what I did was kind of composed improvising. smile.gif

Now you can simply apply some of those ideas into your own solo you posted above,
you don't have to change melody a lot,
just break things into sections and give them more sense in musical way,
how about that? smile.gif


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post Apr 6 2009, 10:03 PM
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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Apr 6 2009, 09:55 PM) *
Damn, I even tried NOT to play shreddy, gonna do another one then. laugh.gif

On the topic, you spotted nicely that I was using one (actually 2) motifs
and I spiced it with some extra lines but also with different techniques in execution.
2nd motif is the one that starts with prebeat and first note on F#m chord
is bended note on B string, progression is also changed at that point so
you can't miss it.
That leads to another conclusion, I also used different starting point for
those 2 motifs, for 1st one I gave almost 2 beats free every time it appears
but for 2nd one I played even on prebeat.
And I played different rhythmic groups for both motif
to get as much difference as possible!
Those are things you can always look at when composing or just improvising,
what I did was kind of composed improvising. smile.gif

Now you can simply apply some of those ideas into your own solo you posted above,
you don't have to change melody a lot,
just break things into sections and give them more sense in musical way,
how about that? smile.gif

Mine was more of a rhythmic motif...1 and 2 and......on every measure. Just changed up the notes but always pretty much played on the first 4 8th notes. The second section...I guess the chorus...I just played the same thing but changed the ending a little each time through.

Yesterday, I tried to change that "B" note you talked about over the "D" chord but I couldn't find anything that sounded good.

So what do you think I should try and do? Change up the motif.....and if so which one...both? smile.gif

I liked my solo until the end where I tried to AP...that is another topic and as you know I'm working HARD on that...just gonna take some time. biggrin.gif


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post Apr 6 2009, 10:20 PM
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QUOTE (lcsdds @ Apr 6 2009, 11:03 PM) *
Mine was more of a rhythmic motif...1 and 2 and......on every measure. Just changed up the notes but always pretty much played on the first 4 8th notes. The second section...I guess the chorus...I just played the same thing but changed the ending a little each time through.

Yesterday, I tried to change that "B" note you talked about over the "D" chord but I couldn't find anything that sounded good.

So what do you think I should try and do? Change up the motif.....and if so which one...both? smile.gif

I liked my solo until the end where I tried to AP...that is another topic and as you know I'm working HARD on that...just gonna take some time. biggrin.gif


I see.
Well, you could try to keep motif No 1. as it is and maybe
to change rhythmic for motif No 2.,
keep the same notes but play them differently rhythm wise,
you'll be surprised what results you might get!
As for chorus, chorus is usually new material,
split it from verse somehow,
maybe go for longer notes with more bends, why not?
And solo, solo was fine more or less, there were some issues with AP as you said
but we are not talking about pure technique now,
you'll get there, no worries. smile.gif


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post Apr 6 2009, 10:31 PM
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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Apr 6 2009, 10:20 PM) *
I see.
Well, you could try to keep motif No 1. as it is and maybe
to change rhythmic for motif No 2.,
keep the same notes but play them differently rhythm wise,
you'll be surprised what results you might get!
As for chorus, chorus is usually new material,
split it from verse somehow,
maybe go for longer notes with more bends, why not?
And solo, solo was fine more or less, there were some issues with AP as you said
but we are not talking about pure technique now,
you'll get there, no worries. smile.gif

I like this idea Muris....so I'm gonna try and do what you said. Change up the 2nd motif. I don't know when I will be able to record...probably not this week because of my computer issues.....but I'll do it ASAP.

The picking etude is coming along....the AP arpgeggios are KILLING ME though!!! I think you did that on purpose.. tongue.gif laugh.gif

Thanks for your help on this Muris...much appreciated..... smile.gif
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QUOTE (lcsdds @ Apr 6 2009, 11:31 PM) *
I like this idea Muris....so I'm gonna try and do what you said. Change up the 2nd motif. I don't know when I will be able to record...probably not this week because of my computer issues.....but I'll do it ASAP.

The picking etude is coming along....the AP arpgeggios are KILLING ME though!!! I think you did that on purpose.. tongue.gif laugh.gif

Thanks for your help on this Muris...much appreciated..... smile.gif


No need to rush Monte,
you can even work on those motifs in your mind,
while fixing someone's tooth.
Just don't use syncopes too much,
patient might scream laugh.gif

You're welcome tho. wink.gif


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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Apr 6 2009, 10:36 PM) *
No need to rush Monte,
you can even work on those motifs in your mind,
while fixing someone's tooth.
Just don't use syncopes too much,
patient might scream laugh.gif

You're welcome tho. wink.gif

I just called the computer repair place...they won't even look at it until friday. mad.gif

I'm gonna have to figure out how to hook my laptop up...I can't go a WHOLE week without working on this....I'm having hallucinations already. laugh.gif tongue.gif

I'll try to be careful when synopating my MOTIF whilst drilling!!! tongue.gif laugh.gif Could help with extractions tho. tongue.gif
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Take it easy,
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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Apr 6 2009, 10:43 PM) *
Take it easy,
sometimes unplugged guitar is worth a lot. wink.gif

BLASPHEMY!!!.. tongue.gif

Alrighty....I'll work on it..thanks.
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QUOTE (lcsdds @ Apr 6 2009, 11:46 PM) *
BLASPHEMY!!!.. tongue.gif

Alrighty....I'll work on it..thanks.


Deal. cool.gif


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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Apr 6 2009, 04:29 PM) *
Almost. biggrin.gif

Here's a take, have a listen and lets discuss both, your and mine. smile.gif

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Sorry to barge in guys but DAMN!! That take was like you were singing it Muris, awesome stuff! Fully captivating and yes, you are Da man! biggrin.gif


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QUOTE (skennington @ Apr 6 2009, 11:49 PM) *
Sorry to barge in guys but DAMN!! That take was like you were singing it Muris, awesome stuff! Fully captivating and yes, you are Da man! biggrin.gif


Cheers Steve. smile.gif


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Hi Muris....It's me again. smile.gif


Could you do the same thing for this tune when you get a chance. PLLEEEAASSE. tongue.gif



These are the only two tunes I've ever written so I won't bug you again....PROMISE. biggrin.gif

I'm not in a hurry so take your time. I didn't get as far on this one as I did on the other.

This is "A Ionian" for main themes and then "A lydian" for solo, which I only finished half of.
There is bass on the backing of this as well. smile.gif

Thanks Muris....again, not in a hurry.






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I need to make a backing for this one. That was fun.

Plus having Muris playing in my band is cool.

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QUOTE (lcsdds @ Apr 7 2009, 02:45 AM) *
Hi Muris....It's me again. smile.gif


Could you do the same thing for this tune when you get a chance. PLLEEEAASSE. tongue.gif



These are the only two tunes I've ever written so I won't bug you again....PROMISE. biggrin.gif

I'm not in a hurry so take your time. I didn't get as far on this one as I did on the other.

This is "A Ionian" for main themes and then "A lydian" for solo, which I only finished half of.
There is bass on the backing of this as well. smile.gif

Thanks Muris....again, not in a hurry.


You;re not bugging me at all Monte, don't worry about! smile.gif

However I've been having some problems to hear whole progression
in this tune, I guess you recorded using mic on your cam,
sound of your guitar was too loud compared with BT,
it covered it almost entirely.
Could you re-record it with better mix this time?
I would also need backing track (MP3 please, not Wave)
to do the same as I did with previous tune. smile.gif

Btw, nice melodies once more, specially tapped harmonics, very sweet and bright theme! smile.gif


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