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QUOTE (jer @ Feb 27 2009, 03:06 PM) *
If he skips one again can we get the milk bone and the hungry dog?

You live closer to him than me Jer so I'll give the go ahead to do that if he skips again!! laugh.gif If you can't find the milk bone and hungry dog just tear into him like a hobo into a bologna sandwich!! laugh.gif

Dan the Man!! I need your help dude. I am getting ready to give an assignment for everybody for next week and I need you to tell me what triads can be found in the diatonic scale of A major. Thanks dude!! smile.gif

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Feb 27 2009, 04:42 PM
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Ok from what I read.. Hopefully this is right. I had to write it out.

A Major = A - B - C# - D - E - F# - G#
Triad =
A - C# - E
B - D - F#
C# - E - G#
D - F# - A
E - G# - B
F# - A - C#
G# - B - D

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QUOTE (opeth.db @ Feb 27 2009, 04:42 PM) *
Ok from what I read.. Hopefully this is right. I had to write it out.

A Major = A - B - C# - D - E - F# - G#
Triad =
A - C# - E
B - D - F#
C# - E - G#
D - F# - A
E - G# - B
F# - A - C#
G# - B - D

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Good Dan. Now just tell me which ones are major and minor and which ONE is diminished. Thanks.

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Feb 27 2009, 06:54 PM
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Ok. I beleive it goes...

Amaj - Bmin - C#min - Dmaj - Emaj - F#min - G# dim

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Feb 27 2009, 07:03 PM
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QUOTE (jer @ Feb 27 2009, 07:03 PM) *
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What he said!! wink.gif

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Feb 27 2009, 10:13 PM
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What's up dude!! I hope you have read my post in the main thread on "Modes and Modal Chord Progressions". Guess what? You are in charge of the collab for April. smile.gif We are gonna stick with the Lydian mode and you can use any key except for D!! biggrin.gif If you need any help or have any questions let me know. Everything you need to know should be laid out for ya in my post. You don't have to come up with a backing track until the first of April so you got plenty of time to work on it. I would like it to be 16 bars long so we all have plenty of time to solo over it. Everything else...tempo, style etc., is up to you dude!! You have about 4 weeks so get cracking.

Bet you are gonna be glad you know how to find your triads now. laugh.gif laugh.gif

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Dan,
I am wanting to solo over a B mixolydian chord progression. From reading the posts I did in the main thread can you answer the following questions please?

1) Is this a Major or Minor mode?

2) What is it's scale of comparison to figure out my chord options?

3) What are my diatonic scale options for soloing over this?

4) What are my pentatonic scale options for soloing over this?


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QUOTE (lcsdds @ Feb 28 2009, 06:25 AM) *
Dan,
I am wanting to solo over a B mixolydian chord progression. From reading the posts I did in the main thread can you answer the following questions please?

1) Is this a Major or Minor mode?

2) What is it's scale of comparison to figure out my chord options?

3) What are my diatonic scale options for soloing over this?

4) What are my pentatonic scale options for soloing over this?


Use the chart I gave you to figure these out. Thanks Dan. smile.gif


Ok. This stuff is mentally draining on me sometimes so I think I figured this out.
I really appreciate these kinds of things Monte. Especially not knowing anything about theory or at least applying the theory.

Im working on figuring this out..GIve me a few

Also..I noticed a few things on your chart. Its missing B Ionian and if F Ionian you have a E# under Locrian Mode.

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QUOTE (opeth.db @ Feb 28 2009, 07:37 PM) *
Ok. This stuff is mentally draining on me sometimes so I think I figured this out.
I really appreciate these kinds of things Monte. Especially not knowing anything about theory or at least applying the theory.

Im working on figuring this out..GIve me a few

Also..I noticed a few things on your chart. Its missing B Ionian and if F Ionian you have a E# under Locrian Mode.

Good catch Dan. You are wrong on the F Ionian Check again it says E for Locrian mode. F# Ionian has E# under locrian mode.

I'll add in B major and repost. Thanks. wink.gif

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1) Is this a Major or Minor mode?
Major

2) What is it's scale of comparison to figure out my chord options?
B C# D# E F# G# A#

3) What are my diatonic scale options for soloing over this?
E Ionain/Major = B Mixolydian


4) What are my pentatonic scale options for soloing over this?
E Major Pentatonic / C# Minor Pentatonic


Hopefully I figured this out right..

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QUOTE (lcsdds @ Feb 28 2009, 01:47 PM) *
Good catch Dan. You are wrong on the F Ionian Check again it says E for Locrian mode. F# Ionian has E# under locrian mode.

I'll add in B major and repost. Thanks. wink.gif


I actually meant F#... Thanks! smile.gif

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QUOTE (opeth.db @ Feb 28 2009, 07:51 PM) *
1) Is this a Major or Minor mode?
Major

2) What is it's scale of comparison to figure out my chord options?
B C# D# E F# G# A#

3) What are my diatonic scale options for soloing over this?
E Ionain/Major = B Mixolydian


4) What are my pentatonic scale options for soloing over this?
E Major Pentatonic / C# Minor Pentatonic


Hopefully I figured this out right..

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I actually meant F#... Thanks! smile.gif


Good Job Dan!!! smile.gif You are technically correct on #4 but I really want you to think B major pentatonic because we are thinking in terms of B mixolydian. All of the notes that are found in Both E major and B major pentatonic can also be found in E Ionian/Major=B mixolydian. I haven't really expaned on the pentatonics yet, but I will. Your thinking was spot on though!!! Good Job!! smile.gif

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Thanks Monte. smile.gif

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Hey Dan,
So I was jamming last night and decided I was gonna write a song in the Key of "E Dorian".
Here is my Chord Progression so far:
Em....


Now I REALLY want to make sure that when I am playing this song live in front of thousands of screaming fans, that the dudes in the mosh pit don't get confused and think that they are body slamming to a song in the Key of "E Aeolian". laugh.gif

Soooooo....Could you please give me a couple of options for some chords that I could use in my chord progression to make sure that the moshers KNOW FOR SURE that they are body slammin to a song in the key of "E Dorian". laugh.gif

Also, since we all know I flunked out of Med School ohmy.gif ohmy.gif and I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed, could you briefly explain to me WHY the chords you are reccomending that I try and squeeze into my Sonic Awesomeness are gonna sound more Dorian than Aeolian. wink.gif

Thanks for the help bud!! I'll make sure you get credit on the CD cover!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif

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Ok. Pardon my stupidness. I hated these questions in school. Wait, I hated school... laugh.gif

I think your asking me for some chord progressions.

We have E Dorian which is Minor.
My scale is:
E F# G A B C D
My Mode:
E F# G A B C# D

WE are going to use the mode progression because the C# will make it sound Dorian rather that Aeolian.

Some of our triads are..
E G B
F# A C#
G B D
A C# E
B D F#
C# E G
D F# A


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QUOTE (lcsdds @ Mar 1 2009, 05:27 AM) *
Hey Dan,
So I was jamming last night and decided I was gonna write a song in the Key of "E Dorian".
Here is my Chord Progression so far:
Em....


Now I REALLY want to make sure that when I am playing this song live in front of thousands of screaming fans, that the dudes in the mosh pit don't get confused and think that they are body slamming to a song in the Key of "E Aeolian". laugh.gif

Soooooo....Could you please give me a couple of options for some chords that I could use in my chord progression to make sure that the moshers KNOW FOR SURE that they are body slammin to a song in the key of "E Dorian". laugh.gif

Also, since we all know I flunked out of Med School ohmy.gif ohmy.gif and I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed, could you briefly explain to me WHY the chords you are reccomending that I try and squeeze into my Sonic Awesomeness are gonna sound more Dorian than Aeolian. wink.gif

Thanks for the help bud!! I'll make sure you get credit on the CD cover!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif

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I think your asking me for some chord progressions.


Indeed I am...Can't rock live on stage without a cool chord progression!! laugh.gif

QUOTE
We have E Dorian which is Minor.
My scale is:
E F# G A B C D
My Mode:
E F# G A B C# D


Good here, except think of them both as modes or scales. We are however comparing the E Dorian mode/scale to the
E Aeolian mode/scale!! Good job. Think of it as we are using the D major scale in an E Dorian mode of operation!!


QUOTE
WE are going to use the mode progression because the C# will make it sound Dorian rather that Aeolian.


Good here, we are going to focus on the C#. A chord progression is just a series of chords that progress from one to another. Like in our lydian collab we start at D, progress to E and the progress back to D. Get it? We haven't come up with a progression yet, that is what we are trying to figure out. wink.gif

QUOTE
Some of our triads are..
E G B
F# A C#
G B D
A C# E
B D F#
C# E G
D F# A


Remember...Flunked out of Med School....I have no idea what those letters mean. I am looking for major, minor or diminished triads to use in my SONIC AWESOMENESS!!

Those look like 3 nps scales that Satch would play. Get back to me with some triads I can use. Also I need to know WHICH TRIADS I SHOULD FOCUS ON!! Sorry dude, maybe your next mentor won't be a Med School flunkee and you won't have to spell everything out for him, but until then you are stuck with me. wink.gif laugh.gif

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Ok.. Hmm..

Emaj
F#min
Gmin
Amaj
Bmin
C#dim

Like this? Im starting to get a bit confused. If this is wrong then I got some questions.

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QUOTE (opeth.db @ Mar 1 2009, 05:49 PM) *
Ok.. Hmm..

Emaj
F#min
Gmin
Amaj
Bmin
C#dim

Like this? Im starting to get a bit confused. If this is wrong then I got some questions.

Use your chart Dan. Go to the dorian column and Find E. Any note that is in the I,IV OR V position is the root of a Major triad. Any note in the ii, iii or vi position is the root of a Minor triad. The note in the vii dim is the root of a diminished triad.

USE THE CHART.

Remember E dorian is a Minor mode so an E major Triad would be wrong, right?

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E Major Triad would be wrong.

F#min Gmin C#dim

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QUOTE (lcsdds @ Mar 1 2009, 11:56 AM) *
Use your chart Dan. Go to the dorian column and Find E. Any note that is in the I,IV OR V position is the root of a Major triad. Any note in the ii, iii or vi position is the root of a Minor triad. The note in the vii dim is the root of a diminished triad.

USE THE CHART.

Remember E dorian is a Minor mode so an E major Triad would be wrong, right?

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